But an angered Leonard Ellerbe, Mayweather's adviser, told FanHouse on Tuesday, "Freddie Roach is full of s**t."
"They're scrambling and they're boxed in and they know it," Ellerbe added.
"It's our understanding that the will not be drawing blood 24 hours before the fight, so there shouldn't be a problem. They're probably saying something along the lines that Floyd Mayweather is trying to get out of the fight," said Ellerbe. "Well, if he feels that this is Floyd's way trying to get out of the fight, then all Manny Pacquiao has to do is agree to the testing."
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/2...le-blood-test/
Thanks Lloyd. Green K.
Not the biggest Mayweahter fan, but I'm certain that if Pac agreed to the testing, the fight would happen. Floyd's not ducking shit.
who said floyds ducking?i actually stated that both fighters want the fight.
good find, but ive been looking through their website and i haven't seen a statement on the USADA website that states they don't draw blood 24 hrs before an event.Sorry but i don't trust promoters and managers word concerning something they dont really know about.
Not the biggest Mayweahter fan, but I'm certain that if Pac agreed to the testing, the fight would happen. Floyd's not ducking shit.
But an angered Leonard Ellerbe, Mayweather's adviser, told FanHouse on Tuesday, "Freddie Roach is full of s**t."
"They're scrambling and they're boxed in and they know it," Ellerbe added.
"It's our understanding that the will not be drawing blood 24 hours before the fight, so there shouldn't be a problem. They're probably saying something along the lines that Floyd Mayweather is trying to get out of the fight," said Ellerbe. "Well, if he feels that this is Floyd's way trying to get out of the fight, then all Manny Pacquiao has to do is agree to the testing."
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/2...le-blood-test/
good find, but ive been looking through their website and i haven't seen a statement on the USADA website that states they don't draw blood 24 hrs before an event.Sorry but i don't trust promoters and managers word concerning something they dont really know about.
Source????
But an angered Leonard Ellerbe, Mayweather's adviser, told FanHouse on Tuesday, "Freddie Roach is full of s**t."
"They're scrambling and they're boxed in and they know it," Ellerbe added.
"It's our understanding that the will not be drawing blood 24 hours before the fight, so there shouldn't be a problem. They're probably saying something along the lines that Floyd Mayweather is trying to get out of the fight," said Ellerbe. "Well, if he feels that this is Floyd's way trying to get out of the fight, then all Manny Pacquiao has to do is agree to the testing."
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/2...le-blood-test/
its christmas dude. manny is not that concerned with this one, he's spending time with his family. i doubt that manny and arum even talked about it. arum has acted poorly as a promoter. he made his fighter look bad, without even taking into consideration what his fighter's position on the issue.
manny came out today and said he has no problems with the tests as long as it is not on the day of the fight itself. that is the most recent statement, coming from manny himself. not roach or arum.
Didn't Mayweathers team say that Usada won't take blood 24 hours before the fight? So this fight should be signed if what you say is correct.
Mayweather does'nt want to fight Pacman and just looking for a way out. PBF in a lot of interviews said that he is the best and undefeated, and that fighting Pacman is an easy one and easy money. Why is PBF then demanding an Olympic style testing if it's that easy? Pacman already agreed to 3 blood testing plus urine test but did not agree on the blood test the day before the fight but rather take it after the fight. What could possibly happen if the test is after the fight? Pacman is one brave dude, he is fearless and would fight anybody, big or not. Watch his every fights and see what I mean. I don't believe he is on roids. He is demeanor is very impressive. He never says anything bad against his opponent, very humble and very respectful. He does not have to prove anything to team PBF, his promoters and the flomos. This PBF demand is unprecedented. Some flomos were saying that what PBF doing is cleaning the sport, weel.. yeah right. He does not even respect Mayweather sr and even abandoned him. The guy is arrogant, a braggart and possibly nervous of fighting PAcman. BTW, wait a year or two and you will lawsuits flying around.
Pacman is not looking for a way out of the fight, otherwise he could have demanded that Mayweather be circumsize one month before the fight beacuse its not easy to fight someone who is'nt, that thingy really smells.
Yes youre right, but the anti-doping agency CAN(not necessarily will) still draw the blood from manny up to the day of the fight.
That's another untrue statement. They do not test within 24 hours of the event.
Source????
that maybe so, but arum works for manny. in the end, he would have to agree with what manny is ok with.
imo, the additional tests are intrusive, excessive, and unnecessary. olympic style testing by a body OF FLOYD'S CHOICE with the exception of no blood tests 24 hours prior to the fight and one blood test right after it is more than a fair compromise. don't you think so? or do you want manny to have blood drawn between rounds?
Exactly, if Arum is still saying 30 days they haven't told Arum that 5 days is OK have they? If they haven't told Arum, he hasn't negotiated that with Mayweather.
Manny will have told Arum what he wants in the contract, so what Arum says is what Manny really wants, because he's the end man that writes up the contract. Why would he lie and say 30 days instead of 5 if Manny wanted 5?
easy.negotiation tactics.theres a recent video or interview of manny saying he's willing to have the blood test up to 24 or 48hrs of the fight.just not the day before.
Arums statements are the ones that are important he writes up the contract, Roach don't.
Arum can rewrite the contract unless it is signed. So will sign the contract on Pac side. Not Srim, not Roach. PAC had the final say.
Arum's writes up the contract.Manny does the fighting hence the demands of Roach and Manny would most likely be met.Arum can't make manny fight if he doesnt want to.Check espn theres recent interview w/dan rafael whos following this fight apparently 24/7 stating that Arum is willing to have more than the initial 3 blood tests drawn statement.
Manny will have told Arum what he wants in the contract, so what Arum says is what Manny really wants, because he's the end man that writes up the contract. Why would he lie and say 30 days instead of 5 if Manny wanted 5?
You think? I don't think thats a legit source, lol...
And have you followed Roach's flip-flopping this entire fight? He's the one who has put out more rumors than anyone else. The fight being at 154, Floyd apparently not wanting the March date at all, etc.
Don't listen to Roach.
True.but what Roach was talking about in those interview was about issues w/the other fighter.He's talking about HIS fighter.
Arums statements are the ones that are important he writes up the contract, Roach don't.
Arum's writes up the contract.Manny does the fighting hence the demands of Roach and Manny would most likely be met.Arum can't make manny fight if he doesnt want to.Check espn theres recent interview w/dan rafael whos following this fight apparently 24/7 stating that Arum is willing to have more than the initial 3 blood tests drawn statement.
If they test for blood the day of the press conference, 3 weeks later(end of jan), 3 weeks later like Feb 21, and one more time after the fight March 13, that should satisfy PBF, because they think he is taking HGH. Cycling off hormones three times in that short time can bring side effects. There is no way Roach will take those risks.
I have briefly taken steroids. LOL, not what you think. When i did intensive work outs i started to get asthmatic symptoms and wheezing. So i briefly took corticosteroid- flovent in inhaler method. There is also other tablet forms. Also was given prednisone in tablet form which is deltasone another steroid. I never took it much only few weeks but since even prescribed steroids effect hormone levels it is not recommended to go cold turkey on it and wean off gradually. Knock out wood, i dont have those asthma symptoms anymore. But the point is that it would be foolish to believe that with that risk involved that pac would cycle off three times. An issue as Adrenal insufficiency can occur also joint pain, muscle pain, fatigue, low blood pressure. Those can occur even when using for short time as 2 weeks. Sure HGH has less withdrawal effects but those mitigating risks are very dangerous for a fighter.
If PBF wont accept what i said in the first paragraph than i think he is being unreasonable. With 4 blood tests in a 8 weeks span, i doubt pac would cycle off HGH 3 times.
Yes youre right, but the anti-doping agency CAN(not necessarily will) still draw the blood from manny up to the day of the fight.
That's another untrue statement. They do not test within 24 hours of the event.
Actually it was Roach has said 5 day window was more than fine.But Manny has just stated recently that i think he said the day before or 48hrs is fine just as long as its not the day of.
You think? I don't think thats a legit source, lol...
And have you followed Roach's flip-flopping this entire fight? He's the one who has put out more rumors than anyone else. The fight being at 154, Floyd apparently not wanting the March date at all, etc.
Don't listen to Roach.
Where is it written that he agreed to that? Sorry, I must have missed it. I only read Arum's statements.
Arums statements are the ones that are important he writes up the contract, Roach don't.
Where is it written that he agreed to that? Sorry, I must have missed it. I only read Arum's statements.
Actually it was Roach has said 5 day window was more than fine.But Manny has just stated recently that i think he said the day before or 48hrs is fine just as long as its not the day of.
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