Manny Pacquiao is 1 of my favorite fighters. I have watched his 2 fights live against JMM, All 3 fights vs Morales live, His 2nd fight with Barrera, and the rest of the fights I threw house parties at my place. I have a Pacquiao vs Morales 2 Program signed by both framed in my game room.
Floyd Mayweather is 1 of my favorite fighters. I have watched him live vs De La Hoya, Baldomir, JMM, and Hatton. Also all of his other fights I have hosted house parties. I have a signed framed autographed glove from Mayweather Jr. in my game room also.
I have met both men in person and they where nice to me.
For the hold up to be about drug tests is beyond belief. So they have agreed on all of these key elements.
1. Money 50/50 split
2. GLoves size 8oz
3. Location MGM Las Vegas
4. Date March 13 2009
5. Weight 147 and any pound more is there is a 10million Dollar fine
So Pacquiao has gotten all of these elements in his favor maybe except for the Location is a Floyd advantage. And he doesn't want to take a drug test. With this being the biggest fight at least in the last 25 years this is the reason for a cancelation.
Does anyone know what the ring size would be?
I really hope this fight gets done and if it doesn't this one isn't on Floyd IMO its on Bob Arum and Manny Pacquiao. FLoyd even tried to accomadate Bob by Golden Boy being his Mediater instead of Al Haymon.
Last week friends and family would come up to me and ask who do you think is gonna win? When are you leaving TO Vegas? What are you betting on a KO or a decision?
And now they are asking me Is Manny Pacquiao on Steroids? What is the difference between Steroids and PED's? How manny tatoos does Pacquiao have?
OJ cleared his name is court. What did that prove MAnny? What is a concession 24 days before the fight? I wish Manny sues Floyd Sr for everything he has $14.00 his disability check and 3 packs of Kool Aid.
You do realize that Manny is willing to do random blood test and unlimited urine test if done by NSAC.
Not done by what Floyd wants
Not true unless the cutoff day is 30 days or newly mediated 24 days before the fight. If not please link proof.
But what does he have to lose by taking a blood test? At the end of the day this fight isn't happening over a random blood test. And that is Manny's fault.
You do realize that Manny is willing to do random blood test and unlimited urine test if done by NSAC.
Not done by what Floyd wants
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345793
Floyd-USADA conspiracy Urine Test can detect HGH says USADA
But what does he have to lose by taking a blood test? At the end of the day this fight isn't happening over a random blood test. And that is Manny's fault.
What makes you think if Pac accepts the Olympic test Floyd will not fake another rib injuries or will ask another out of this world demands? Can't you get it? Floyd just wants to pussy out. Its clear as a day light.
Floyd and Pac have agreed on everything except random drug testing. How silly does that sound. *Pacquiao is his new name if he doesn't test.
How is he gonna be a politician and combat a drug issue if he won't even take a drug test?
I think he is saying, "now u can't cheat, so I am really going to **** u up, shut up my detractors, and cash a big damn check."
At the end of the day, pbf NEVER said pacq is taking steroids. NEVER, FACT! So please stop misleading the uninformed with FICTION/LIES. This is why they NEVER answer the questions.
A message to pac from real boxing fans:
shut up :bryce:, take the tests, & FIGHT!
JAT
What makes you think if Pac accepts the Olympic test Floyd will not fake another rib injuries or will ask another out of this world demands? Can't you get it? Floyd just wants to pussy out. Its clear as a day light.
If PBF dont think Pac is on roids, now you are saying, why is he asking for a olympic test?
You say PBF has never said Manny is on roids, so why is he demanding Olympic tests? It is because he wants to CATCH manny out thats why!!!!!
He dont trust the tests pac has had and passed, thats why!
So PBF is basically saying he thinks Pac is on roids and wants to catch him out, because he dont trust the tests he had.
I think he is saying, "now u can't cheat, so I am really going to **** u up, shut up my detractors, and cash a big damn check."
At the end of the day, pbf NEVER said pacq is taking steroids. NEVER, FACT! So please stop misleading the uninformed with FICTION/LIES. This is why they NEVER answer the questions.
A message to pac from real boxing fans:
shut up :bryce:, take the tests, & FIGHT!
JAT
why don't you just do your own reading then you'll see how Floyd's camp is perceived to be real BIATCH in this fiasco!
Perceived by who? I hate the fact that Floyd didn't fight Margacheato, Mosley, or Cotto and I hate the fact the Manny won't take random drug tests. Both are mistakes that can be corrected. And in this argument with Drug testing being the only reason I'm not watching a Dream Fight Manny is acting like a Bitch so far IMO. Then again it might be his team:grouphug:
Please echo some respected boxing writers instead of these wanna be boxing experts. Fellow Boxingscene posters have alot more integrity than some of thw writers you are quoting.
why don't you just do your own reading then you'll see how Floyd's camp is perceived to be real BIATCH in this fiasco!
In a perfect world.....................he would say " **** it im still gonna whoop your gay ass"...................but corporate manny with all the endorsements and lawyers....................can sway him to different options.......
Corporate Manny :grouphug:. I liked it better when he was taking Freddie's advise.
I am only echoing what most sports writers are saying. I agree with them, if you keep asking me questions, I will just post some more
Please echo some respected boxing writers instead of these wanna be boxing experts. Fellow Boxingscene posters have alot more integrity than some of thw writers you are quoting.
Manny Pacquiao is considered the world’s best fighter. Floyd Mayweather is considered the world’s second-best fighter. If they were to fight, those positions would likely switch. How is that good for boxing?
Pacquiao is a charismatic action fighter who’s created a market for prizefighting in the Philippines and made it popular as ever throughout Asia. Mayweather is a foul-mouthed defensive specialist whose fights lose more fans than they gain. Pacquiao is good for boxing. Mayweather is good for Mayweather.
Mayweather is also too smart by half, this time. He’s devised a strategy of implying Pacquiao has been cheating, without exactly saying it. He didn’t want fair play; he wanted another psychological advantage over another opponent. He knew Pacquiao would consider the blood testing intrusive. He knew in Pacquiao’s mind it would be “Money May” himself reaching in those veins and doing God knows what with the blood.
by Bart Barry
15rounds.com
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Pac is the #1 rated fighter and Floyd is the #2 rated and if they fight is that good for boxing is your best argument? What the F@ck. You can't truely believe that.
That is the only fight casual fan wants to see. That is the only fight that I would spend 2k a seat on. That is the only fight that is truely a megafight. But if Pacman wants to fight Yuri that is his problem unfortunately for him intellegent fan and casual fan won't spend $65 for payperview or $100 for closed circuit or 2k for ringside seats. But so what with uncle Bob making 27% of Mannys purse and god know how much of Yuri's purse that is whats best for boxing.
Bart Barry is an idiot writer for saying that first paragraph.
Please read my opening arguement. I'm a fan of both fighters I just believe that Pac is in the wrong on this one.
I am only echoing what most sports writers are saying. I agree with them, if you keep asking me questions, I will just post some more
Manny Pacquiao is considered the world’s best fighter. Floyd Mayweather is considered the world’s second-best fighter. If they were to fight, those positions would likely switch. How is that good for boxing?
Pacquiao is a charismatic action fighter who’s created a market for prizefighting in the Philippines and made it popular as ever throughout Asia. Mayweather is a foul-mouthed defensive specialist whose fights lose more fans than they gain. Pacquiao is good for boxing. Mayweather is good for Mayweather.
Mayweather is also too smart by half, this time. He’s devised a strategy of implying Pacquiao has been cheating, without exactly saying it. He didn’t want fair play; he wanted another psychological advantage over another opponent. He knew Pacquiao would consider the blood testing intrusive. He knew in Pacquiao’s mind it would be “Money May” himself reaching in those veins and doing God knows what with the blood.
by Bart Barry
15rounds.com
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pac is still acting like a bitch accdg to floydstans
Please read my opening arguement. I'm a fan of both fighters I just believe that Pac is in the wrong on this one.
If PBF dont think Pac is on roids, why is he asking for a olympic test?
Flomos say PBF has never said Manny is on roids, so why is he demanding Olympic tests? It is because he wants to CATCH manny out thats why!!!!!
He dont trust the tests pac has had and passed, thats why!
So PBF is basically saying he thinks Pac is on roids and wants to catch him out, because he dont trust the tests he had. Simple.
If the fight dont get made, history will say because Floyd asked for something that had never been asked before to get the fight done. Putting barriers up to stop the fight being made. The fact Pac declined the tests is irrelevant.
That’s the worst thing Floyd could have done to the fight. He’s always bitching how he never gets credit for being great. Well, this one is on him. If the fight ever happens and Floyd wins, people will say “Well, Manny was not on ‘roids so he lost.” If Floyd loses, then he can argue Manny found a way to beat the tests. What Floyd has done, besides begin speculation about Manny Pacquiao, is effectively kill any joy we had in this fight. For one, I am sick of hearing that it’s on or off or on again. For two, it’s one thing to trash talk an opponent. It’s another to call him a cheater when he hasn’t been caught doing a damn thing except being a good fighter. It was a cheap shot and what it’s done is ignite the media into their typical frenzy where they will poke and probe until they think they have found something all the while burning down the forest of Manny Pacquiao’s reputation. The boxing forums are rife with junior prosecutors and PED experts claiming this or that about Manny’s guilt or innocence. It’s just ugly."
by By Gabriel Montoya
secondsout.com
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you pac is the bitch alright
stupid flomos are in denial again
Please read my opening arguement. I'm a fan of both fighters I just believe that Pac is in the wrong on this one.
you sir are a true drone. You keep as the same question so I'll answer u. The reason Floyd never asked for testing before is cause it wasn't an issue now it is. The questions are being asked so yes he wants test done. You happy? But Floyd jr has NEVER said Manny was on roids has he.
Get your shyt straight, Manny has passed every scheduled urine test, what about a random blood test? Oh well that's not mandatory, lol. F_@k Manny, his drones, his excuses and his tainted last 4 fights. And his next tainted fight period.
If PBF dont think Pac is on roids, now you are saying, why is he asking for a olympic test?
You say PBF has never said Manny is on roids, so why is he demanding Olympic tests? It is because he wants to CATCH manny out thats why!!!!!
He dont trust the tests pac has had and passed, thats why!
So PBF is basically saying he thinks Pac is on roids and wants to catch him out, because he dont trust the tests he had.
Seriously, where has Pac ever stated that he was fine with any blood tests just as long as it wasn't on the day of the fight?
I haven't seen a single quote of this anywhere, and when asked, what is produced does not state that.
That’s the worst thing Floyd could have done to the fight. He’s always bitching how he never gets credit for being great. Well, this one is on him. If the fight ever happens and Floyd wins, people will say “Well, Manny was not on ‘roids so he lost.” If Floyd loses, then he can argue Manny found a way to beat the tests. What Floyd has done, besides begin speculation about Manny Pacquiao, is effectively kill any joy we had in this fight. For one, I am sick of hearing that it’s on or off or on again. For two, it’s one thing to trash talk an opponent. It’s another to call him a cheater when he hasn’t been caught doing a damn thing except being a good fighter. It was a cheap shot and what it’s done is ignite the media into their typical frenzy where they will poke and probe until they think they have found something all the while burning down the forest of Manny Pacquiao’s reputation. The boxing forums are rife with junior prosecutors and PED experts claiming this or that about Manny’s guilt or innocence. It’s just ugly."
by By Gabriel Montoya
secondsout.com
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you pac is the bitch alright
stupid flomos are in denial again find me a source or quote wher Floyd said, accused or mentioned Nanny was or may be on roids