Eddie Chambers and Andre Ward are both admittedly working with BALCO's Victor Conte. BALCO's proven guilt in working and giving illegal substances to athlete's is a much more sound and grounded foundation to base accusations against Chambers and Ward.
Chambers, who has always been a fat slob, comes in all of a sudden weighing 208 in his last fight, huge difference, yes, cheating involved, of course.
"Chambers says he uses many Conte products, from energy shakes to pills that help him recover from weight-lifting sessions and allow him to sleep better. He said he plans to use IHT training before the Klitschko bout."
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-victor-conte4-2009dec04,0,657682.story
Now if you don't think Eddie cheated in order to get in such good shape, while he's working with BALCO.....Prove it!!
I'm a fan of Pacquiao, who in their right mind wouldn't be? The guys exciting as hell, great boxer, seems like a nice guy. All of this from some accusations by Crackhead Sr and his woman beating brother. When they say something it must be true?
These are based on nothing and if i use the same logic as alot of these retards then Chambers and Ward are 10X as guilty seening as there is at least smoke, givin their connections.
I suspect tht alot of the people who are hating on Pac are Americans who are sore losers. All i ask is to remain consistant, if Pacquiao is a cheater and a fraud (based on nothing) then Chambers and Ward are complete scumbags and should be banned from boxing. (since there is more to base that on than Pac)
So, offer me proof that Chambers and Ward aren't cheating scumbags...........
I been mentioning Ward and Chambers for the last 2 days now. And, nobody has cared. For the record I think they are clean. But, I am disappointed in the boxing who claim to be die hard fans and "Love" boxing. And, what boxing to be a cleaner sport. I understand why the casual fan and the media cares more about the Pac situation. But, there no excuse why fans who "love" boxing do. If you are a die hard fan you know who Ward and Chambers are. You know how important the super six is. So you should care about this situation. All the Pac bashing that some of this "die hard" fans are doing. Should also be bashing Ward and Chambers for this. That is if you truly love boxing.
And, Battling Neilson made a whole tread about this. Showing an article from the L.A times. And, instead of discussing the situation and/or bashing Ward and Chambers. They killed the messenger in Bat. And, that made no sense to me. Cuz the same people who were bashing Bat saying he is making excuses and that Kessler sucks. Are the same people bashing Pac. Why the double standard?
lol yeah i saw that thread, alot of dumbasses lost it on bat for no reason. and in regards to the double standard that kind of thing is inevitable imo
I been mentioning Ward and Chambers for the last 2 days now. And, nobody has cared. For the record I think they are clean. But, I am disappointed in the boxing who claim to be die hard fans and "Love" boxing. And, what boxing to be a cleaner sport. I understand why the casual fan and the media cares more about the Pac situation. But, there no excuse why fans who "love" boxing do. If you are a die hard fan you know who Ward and Chambers are. You know how important the super six is. So you should care about this situation. All the Pac bashing that some of this "die hard" fans are doing. Should also be bashing Ward and Chambers for this. That is if you truly love boxing.
And, Battling Neilson made a whole tread about this. Showing an article from the L.A times. And, instead of discussing the situation and/or bashing Ward and Chambers. They killed the messenger in Bat. And, that made no sense to me. Cuz the same people who were bashing Bat saying he is making excuses and that Kessler sucks. Are the same people bashing Pac. Why the double standard?
Yes and what does that same guy from the USADA say about the pills and suppliments that he's giving them? Oh, that's right, nothing.
Also, whatever he admits to giving them doesn't mean it's the only thing.
The pills are legal. You honestly don't think the USADA has checked into everything Conte is giving his shit. That guy is watched like a hawk considering his previous offences
I'm an American and a former Grunt. Me and my wife who is also a half-filipina love Pacman very much and we watch his fight live here in Vegas as much as we can. We feel that this thing is becoming "racial prejudice" for Pacman by subjecting him to double standards simply bcoz that theirs "No American" yet that have done what he has accomplished. This guy is simply gifted and work harder than most American Athletes we have here. Most of his haters are probablly the people who bet againts him all the time and lost.
Yeah i agree with you and the thread starter. The criticism from the media and alot of the american fans is ridiculous and based on nothing.
I'm an American and a former Grunt. Me and my wife who is also a half-filipina love Pacman very much and we watch his fight live here in Vegas as much as we can. We feel that this thing is becoming "racial prejudice" for Pacman by subjecting him to double standards simply bcoz that theirs "No American" yet that have done what he has accomplished. This guy is simply gifted and work harder than most American Athletes we have here. Most of his haters are probablly the people who bet againts him all the time and lost.
Someone didn't read that article fully.
The guy from the USADA, the same USADA that wants to do the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight, says what Conte does now is completely legal
Yes and what does that same guy from the USADA say about the pills and suppliments that he's giving them? Oh, that's right, nothing.
Also, whatever he admits to giving them doesn't mean it's the only thing.
Someone didn't read that article fully.
Travis Tygart, chief executive of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, said an altitude simulator is not prohibited by authorities, but he scoffed at the value of the device and was blunt about Conte rejoining the athletic community.
The guy from the USADA, the same USADA that wants to do the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight, says what Conte does now is completely legal
These American fighters are not even known, Pac is 100 x bigger in America then them.
Fair point but in the La Times article it talks about their involvemtn and how Chambers is doing all this in prep for his fight vs Volodymyr. They don't make it sound all shady or start throwing accusations Eddie's way.
And my statements certainly stand true in regards to the fans, people on here. (although i'd hardly call alot of them fans, perhaps of 1 or 2 fighters but certainly not of the sport)
I hear you but it's interesting to note the polar contrast in regards to Pacquiao vs American fighters. Along with alot of the fans who have all but covicted Manny of being guilty, yet when i make an accusation against 2 American fighters and offer at least something to base accusations on, no replies.
These American fighters are not even known, Pac is 100 x bigger in America then them.
Well drug test them then <--------- This will never fail in the media, The media will always side with the test. People & the media dont hate Pac, its like I said they will always side with the test in the steroids era.
I hear you but it's interesting to note the polar contrast in regards to Pacquiao vs American fighters. Along with alot of the fans who have all but covicted Manny of being guilty, yet when i make an accusation against 2 American fighters and offer at least something to base accusations on, no replies.
Well drug test them then <--------- This will never fail in the media, The media will always side with the test. People & the media dont hate Pac, its like I said they will always side with the test in the steroids era.
I will say this, Andre Ward has all the ring intelligence in world. What I question is his intelligence outside the ring. I mean, From publicly announcing that his team makes sure he doesnt fight outside of his hometown/state right before supersix (pisses every other promoter off) to this.....I mean seriously.
lol Yeah. All of it just seems quite unwise and poor judgement on his part. Kind of interesting when looking at all of it together.
I will say this, Andre Ward has all the ring intelligence in world. What I question is his intelligence outside the ring. I mean, From publicly announcing that his team makes sure he doesnt fight outside of his hometown/state right before supersix (pisses every other promoter off) to this.....I mean seriously.