On what grounds should pac have to take these drug test?

I really didn't expect this from pac fans but then again I didn't expect them to downplay and discredit the marquez fights huge ppv #'s either... I still thought yall were better than this though

This isn't the court of law, it's the court of public opinion. He should stop making a ****in hassle and accept the deal for the biggest fight today. "What grounds" Fukk outta here.

On what grounds does Pacman get to demand 49048549058309458 of Floyd? On what grounds did he get to Catchweight fight Cotto but still get the Title? exactly!!! why the double standard from Pacquiao's fans

from manny saying that he's going to take the test, i don't know why that isnt good enough, but, there is no factual evidence pointing to pacquiao using PED's, it's all speculation, so i don't see why he is subjected being singled out. it's not right to label someone guilty and have them prove their innocence without any evidence when there is no physical evidence. like i said, it wouldn't hold up in court, so why is it being touted as fact!?!?!? the test is a step that mayweather want to take so he knows that he is fighting someone fair. same way pacquiao made cotto come in at 145 and there was a penalty clause

On what grounds does Pacman get to demand 49048549058309458 of Floyd? On what grounds did he get to Catchweight fight Cotto but still get the Title? $10 million dollars for every pound over, but we are not taking the same test you are taking. Team Pacquiao does not work for Mayweather but wants Team Mayweather to work for them.

if they're so concerned, then mayweather should've been doing this for at least the last 4 years, and also, if this is going to be how the negotiating is going to be, then, it should now be an INDUSTRY STANDARD. because like crazy kim said in another thread, this is going to be the new way to duck someone or to squash a proposed fight.

can someone convince me with proof as to why pacquiao should be forced to take these extra tests? (EDIT) if he wants this fight? what actual factual proof does anyone have? because what i'm seeing since this happened is someone being accused of something, as far as i know there is zero evidence, only speculation, which isnt enough to hold up in court, so why is pacquiao being treated like he's guilty and has to prove himself innocent because of accusations with no evidence? someone? On what grounds does Pacman get to demand 49048549058309458 of Floyd? On what grounds did he get to Catchweight fight Cotto but still get the Title?

from manny saying that he's going to take the test, i don't know why that isnt good enough, but, there is no factual evidence pointing to pacquiao using PED's, it's all speculation, so i don't see why he is subjected being singled out. it's not right to label someone guilty and have them prove their innocence without any evidence when there is no physical evidence. like i said, it wouldn't hold up in court, so why is it being touted as fact!?!?!?

This is what I have been telling everyone but they can't seem to get it...A test after the fight will still show anything illegal that pac is taking.... Again I'm asking, what's the problem with this then? ***Green K given*** I haven't heard from anywhere that he's agreed to be tested randomly during the time of his training camp and that is the only way to be sure of it. The proposal of them deciding the exact time of each test one in the beginning, one in the middle and ope at the end is only a moderate deterrant. You can make a PED regimen around that. Its also not just about some drug that makes him like popeye eating spinach. Its about fighters using PED to help with training ie. allow fighters to recover faster and more easily gain and maintain lean muscle. However if he agreed to taking random tests during training but only required that there would be no test within 24 hours before the fight and mayweather still said no which I have yet to hear then I feel that it may be unreasonable.

This is what I have been telling everyone but they can't seem to get it...A test after the fight will still show anything illegal that pac is taking.... Again I'm asking, what's the problem with this then? ***Green K given*** Post-Fight Drug Test Scenarios: 1. Pacman KTFO Mayweather, Pacman is +, who wins? 2. Mayweather KTFO Pacman, Mayweather is +, who wins? 3. Pacman KTFO Mayweather, both are +, Pacman wins? Forfeit both purse? 4. Pacman KTFO Mayweather, Mayweather is +, forfeit Mayweather purse? 5. Mayweather KTFO Pacman, Pacman is +, forfeit Pacman purse? Very dirty scenario....

My question is, why can't mayweather not agree to remove the clause which is testing a day before the fight? If for example Manny takes an illegal substance a day before the fight, would it really give Manny a clear edge like popeye taking a spinach kind of power? If Manny thinks he's not keen on taking a test before the fight because of phobia in needles, or he thinks that it could affect him during the fight. Although it is outrageous for a guy who's called as "smiling assassin" but he's still human and it would destroy his mental state before the fight then it would give undue advantage to Floyd. The fight is being called off by Arum but I think Manny wants this one, they're just probably making the issue calm down. That's what happens when you're getting popular especially if you're not an American and toppling every American boxer in terms of popularity and marketability in their own soil, I'm not going to go any further about the race stuff but it makes me wonder, what if Manny was a white or black American would this kind of issue be raised? hmmm... Are you serious? the media would be foaming at the mouth if this was a black fighter. The media has been nothing but positive about manny so what are you talking about. Npt to mention I have yet to see an article outright imply that he's avoiding the test because he's dirty. Everyone of the articles have expressed his attemts to compromise.

Can you answer my question above your post? Pacquiao agreed to take the test so long as it's not in the day before the fight. He even said he would take the blood test right after the fight in the dug out. Is Pacquiao taking a "popeye-spinach" kind of illegal substance that waves off in a minute or so? That the result of taking the test after the fight would be a lot different before the fight. This is what I have been telling everyone but they can't seem to get it...A test after the fight will still show anything illegal that pac is taking.... Again I'm asking, what's the problem with this then? ***Green K given***

He must take these tests on the grounds that it will make the fight happen. He is the proclamed people's champ so he should do what it takes to make the fight the people want to see. The demands will not be of any physical detriment so it should not be this big of a deal. Can you answer my question above your post? Pacquiao agreed to take the test so long as it's not in the day before the fight. He even said he would take the blood test right after the fight in the dug out. Is Pacquiao taking a "popeye-spinach" kind of illegal substance that waves off in a minute or so? That the result of taking the test after the fight would be a lot different before the fight.

Answer this, What's the problem in taking the blood test right after the fight? If Manny is taking anything illegal it would still show...What's the problem then? This is a 2 party talk and Manny deserves to make his own demands too(w/ or w/o good reason)...It's called a compromise..........Manny already agreed(just not 24 hours before the fight)...He's even willing to be tested right after the damn fight....

I know 40 million reasons to take this tests.

He must take these tests on the grounds that it will make the fight happen. He is the proclamed people's champ so he should do what it takes to make the fight the people want to see. The demands will not be of any physical detriment so it should not be this big of a deal.

My question is, why can't mayweather not agree to remove the clause which is testing a day before the fight? If for example Manny takes an illegal substance a day before the fight, would it really give Manny a clear edge like popeye taking a spinach kind of power? If Manny thinks he's not keen on taking a test before the fight because of phobia in needles, or he thinks that it could affect him during the fight. Although it is outrageous for a guy who's called as "smiling assassin" but he's still human and it would destroy his mental state before the fight then it would give undue advantage to Floyd. The fight is being called off by Arum but I think Manny wants this one, they're just probably making the issue calm down. That's what happens when you're getting popular especially if you're not an American and toppling every American boxer in terms of popularity and marketability in their own soil, I'm not going to go any further about the race stuff but it makes me wonder, what if Manny was a white or black American would this kind of issue be raised? hmmm...

So how about Floyd, how come he was never subjected to this after moving up and dominating bigger boxers than him. My point is why now, the only reason is because Sr. made false accusations without merit and people are buying into it. Mayweather never stands and trades with his much bigger opponents, normally he tries to win by potshotting and countering, see the Castillo fights and the Baldomir fight. From what I heard rumours have been floating around about Pac for a while now, I heard somthing around 6 months ago. Mayweather sr is really the first guy to say it out in public. What Pac should do is take the tests and then ko Mayweather.

can someone convince me with proof as to why pacquiao should be forced to take these extra tests? (EDIT) if he wants this fight? what actual factual proof does anyone have? because what i'm seeing since this happened is someone being accused of something, as far as i know there is zero evidence, only speculation, which isnt enough to hold up in court, so why is pacquiao being treated like he's guilty and has to prove himself innocent because of accusations with no evidence? someone? SPECUALTION BY FLOYD SR OF ALL PEOPLE.....lol

Evander Holyfield? The same Holyfield who was already showing the side affects of HGH way back in 1993. Roy Jones, who tested positive after the Richard Hall fight? Its not just about boxers moving up, its about them moving up and being much stronger than their naturally bigger opponents. Just imagine if Jones stood in the ring with Tyson and Tyson said damn I can trade with this guy im going to get on my bike and try to last to the final bell instead. Which is why Mayweather sr said what he said. Pac should just accept the terms and all this will blow over. So how about Floyd, how come he was never subjected to this after moving up and dominating bigger boxers than him. My point is why now, the only reason is because Sr. made false accusations without merit and people are buying into it.