Miguel Cottos' head must.......

Cotto fans.:nonono: Lol...it's a bad thing to be a Cotto fan? What did i say that was so wrong? And now i am reading many threads/posts about the possiblity of Manny using 'roids, about him objecting to the blood tests, about him being afraid of needles, though he has tatoos and admits to doing one himself, what the hell is up with all that? and i never even responded to those posts about why his head is so big. NOT once. I never criticized him for anything. So what is your disgust with Cotto fans? in particular, your post after my respectful response to Iceta, who openly admits he hates Cotto, and i respect him for saying so and for his right to his opinion.

Cotto fans.:nonono:

Some do Some don't. I accept his defeat from Manny, I am very suspect about rito, cuz he actually got caught trying to cheat against mosley, and he beat mosley, who was a 'roid user. Otherwise, i don't know what you mean exactly by "keeping quiet about all this and accepting defeat." Can you be more specific? I give Manny credit for beating him. I posted it in the Pinoy lounge my respect and amazemennt at Manny. He's my 2nd fav boxer. As far as giving credit, I am being critical of Cotto's decision about keeping his lame team that will do nothing to make him a better fighter. He doesn't want to evolve. As a Cotto fan, NOT a stan, I'm very dismayed about that. You're in the minority then, because most of his fans I run across on here are talking about what a throw back fighter he is because he's so easy to negotiate with and doesn't argue to get anything tipped in his favor like some other fighters do. But I think that is something that has contributed to his down fall even though people have a point.

Cotto is keeping quiet about all this and accepting defeat. His fans don't have to be quiet but they need to give credit where credit is due. And they are not doing that. Some do Some don't. I accept his defeat from Manny, I am very suspect about rito, cuz he actually got caught trying to cheat against mosley, and he beat mosley, who was a 'roid user. Otherwise, i don't know what you mean exactly by "keeping quiet about all this and accepting defeat." Can you be more specific? I give Manny credit for beating him. I posted it in the Pinoy lounge my respect and amazemennt at Manny. He's my 2nd fav boxer. As far as giving credit, I am being critical of Cotto's decision about keeping his lame team that will do nothing to make him a better fighter. He doesn't want to evolve. As a Cotto fan, NOT a stan, I'm very dismayed about that.

Cotto is keeping quiet about all this and accepting defeat. His fans don't have to be quiet but they need to give credit where credit is due. And they are not doing that.

Do roids or loaded gloves have anything to do with Cotto's shit stamina? Cotto beat roid boy and cheato is irrelevant. I'd rather back a fighter with a deficit he can correct with a good trainer than a cheater that uses roids or loaded gloves..

Do roids or loaded gloves have anything to do with Cotto's shit stamina?

I don't think Steward would do him much good. For one thing, He dissed Cotto in the Clottey fight. i woulda slapped him after the fight. And stwerad, i'm I'm not mistaken is better with the heavier divisions, and i just don't think he has the trainer (fortitude) in him left. He need somebody like Naaz, and open his stuborn mind to a real trainer and actually incorperate the trainers advice into his regiment. I agree Cotto is a victim of his own pride. whether or not he has trainer fortitude , whether he would have helped beat pac or not, that fact is steward would have been miles ahead of santiago. I've met that man (cotto), and he did seem a bit arrogant at the time but who knows might have caught him in a diva day! I dont like him outside the ring but in it i gotta love em' that and i'm from caguas too. TEEHEE:boxing:

True, but it gave you a sense of (false) hope that it will eventually nullify Pacquiao's win over Cotto (ala Margarito). Keep it up whatever makes you happy. ;) what ever u say homie.... u in my mind GET OUT OF MY MIND AHHHHHHHH.... but for real tho NOOOO, plain old ass kicking plain and simple.. no sense of hope, false or otherwise. just smoked a fatty laid back and said damn i wonder what must be goin thru this dudes mind. anyway off to eat i got the munchies like a mofo!!!

That the thing, it was the BIGGEST FIGHT of his career, so i dont think he wanted to say anything that could send pac and his millions in a different direction. I too think cotto is a bit arrogant, if he wasnt he would have hired another trainer b4 the pac fight. When stewart offer his services you just cant turn that kinda stuff down and he did. so yea in that respaect he is stupid as hell!!! I don't think Steward would do him much good. For one thing, He dissed Cotto in the Clottey fight. i woulda slapped him after the fight. And steward, if I'm not mistaken is better with the heavier divisions, and i just don't think he has the trainer (fortitude) in him left. He need somebody like Naaz, and open his stuborn mind to a real trainer and actually incorperate the trainers advice into his regiment. I agree Cotto is a victim of his own pride.

You mean until caught, I think he has already been caught tho.. Try refusing a drug test at your job my friend. Only reason "I" would have a problem with taking a drug test is if i was using something. Just makes Manny look real bad. It's alot bigger than Floyd Sr now, you got the world involved in this. All the excuses in the world wont help him now, He says he hates needles? the man has tats!! It will make him weak to give a tablespoon of blood? he bleeds a pint per fight!!! stop it please "Oh it's a mind game? stop it stop it stop it stupid!! All this started from Floyd saying "In my op I think he's on something" He only said what other thought anyway, now he's the whistle blower but where is all this heat comming from? not Sr. He dont got that kinda juice. Pac is using and the excuses need to stop. What if it was Floyd refusing to test? what would be the verdict? wow, Pacquiao was found guilty of steroid use? Link please?

He's probably still dizzy from the beating he took. Antonio WAS cheating, everything about Manny is just rumours. Who gives a **** about what shit some crackhead is talking about? Manny is the real deal, until proven guilty. You mean until caught, I think he has already been caught tho.. Try refusing a drug test at your job my friend. Only reason "I" would have a problem with taking a drug test is if i was using something. Just makes Manny look real bad. It's alot bigger than Floyd Sr now, you got the world involved in this. All the excuses in the world wont help him now, He says he hates needles? the man has tats!! It will make him weak to give a tablespoon of blood? he bleeds a pint per fight!!! stop it please "Oh it's a mind game? stop it stop it stop it stupid!! All this started from Floyd saying "In my op I think he's on something" He only said what other thought anyway, now he's the whistle blower but where is all this heat comming from? not Sr. He dont got that kinda juice. Pac is using and the excuses need to stop. What if it was Floyd refusing to test? what would be the verdict?

every athlete, when they're first accused, it's just rumors.... shit don't come out till the FBI gets involved, and mu****as have to go to Capitol Hill to speak up..... i don't want it to go that far with manny, that's why he should just agree to the testing, and all this goes away. i don't kno if you've been around much, but nowadays, when athletes get accused of using PED's, it's not "innoncent until proven guilty," somehow the onus gets shifted on them to prove they're innocent. refusing testing doesn't help.... not saying it's right, but that's how it is in sports today, with the steroid controversy. JAT :fing02: If Manny takes 5000 tests before the fight and knocks out Floyd, Crackhead Sr, Flomos etc will still claim one or both of the following: 1) He was on steroids in the past and still benefits from them, so Floyd should have won. 2) He was on something that isn't detectable, so Floyd should have won. There is NO test that is a 100% certain, and no matter what Pacquiao does the people that says he's cheating will say so even if he would take these extra tests.

dude relax... cotto got his ass handed to him... didnt make a thread to say cotto now won the fight. just curiuos as to what might be going thru his mind. True, but it gave you a sense of (false) hope that it will eventually nullify Pacquiao's win over Cotto (ala Margarito). Keep it up whatever makes you happy. ;)

You mean that Antonio was suspended without any proof? Just because of some crackhead spreading out a rumour? You should inform the officials about this. Manny has agreed to the required testing, and then some. Manny can ask for a test being taken every 5 minutes next, if Floyd doesn't agree he has something to hiiiiiiide!!11 every athlete, when they're first accused, it's just rumors.... shit don't come out till the FBI gets involved, and mu****as have to go to Capitol Hill to speak up..... i don't want it to go that far with manny, that's why he should just agree to the testing, and all this goes away. i don't kno if you've been around much, but nowadays, when athletes get accused of using PED's, it's not "innoncent until proven guilty," somehow the onus gets shifted on them to prove they're innocent. refusing testing doesn't help.... not saying it's right, but that's how it is in sports today, with the steroid controversy. JAT :fing02:

You mean that Antonio was suspended without any proof? Just because of some crackhead spreading out a rumour? You should inform the officials about this. Manny has agreed to the required testing, and then some. Manny can ask for a test being taken every 5 minutes next, if Floyd doesn't agree he has something to hiiiiiiide!!11 DAMMIT!!! keep the floyd talk in the correct thread!

GTFO ....Antonio WAS cheating but Manny is just rummors? O.K. ....Manny is the one scared of getting tested.... Whats the big deal? ITs not going to hurt him any? Or is it? You mean that Antonio was suspended without any proof? Just because of some crackhead spreading out a rumour? You should inform the officials about this. Manny has agreed to the required testing, and then some. Manny can ask for a test being taken every 5 minutes next, if Floyd doesn't agree he has something to hiiiiiiide!!11

Cotto stans are having a blast since the steroid allegation. They were quiet for quite some time now and the steroid allegation gave them a little hope to resurrect their idol's career. classy people...:dunno: deja vu dude relax... cotto got his ass handed to him... didnt make a thread to say cotto now won the fight. just curiuos as to what might be going thru his mind.

That was the biggest fight of his career,a good team would have done what Mayweather did.Mind you there were big rumours that Ariza was linked to Balco.ALso what is now in the public domain was always talked about in the gyms.Cotto has an attitude problem that's why he gets screwed.The guy's got no allies.Little does he know how to be really successful in any job That the thing, it was the BIGGEST FIGHT of his career, so i dont think he wanted to say anything that could send pac and his millions in a different direction. I too think cotto is a bit arrogant, if he wasnt he would have hired another trainer b4 the pac fight. When manny stewart offer his services you just cant turn that kinda stuff down and he did. so yea in that respaect he is stupid as hell!!!

Cotto stans are having a blast since the steroid allegation. They were quiet for quite some time now and the steroid allegation gave them a little hope to resurrect their idol's career. classy people...:dunno: deja vu