Lets talk about Alex Ariza here.

that means when Khan said him and Ariza were working on 'power' in the camp, they really mean they were roiding which gave them power. Just a thought.

People are reading too much into this shit. Manny Pacquiao himself has said nothing about any phobia of needles, all these words are coming from elsewhere. He said nothing himself about testing, or what he will or won't agree to, it's all coming from Roach. According to Koncz, the whole issue of steroids and Olympic-style blood testing is a huge joke to Manny, he's literally laughing about it. The way I see it: The whole point here is not to give in to Mayweather's demands. The hoops he is trying to get Pacquiao to jump through are mental games. He is trying to win the fight before it's started, and usually every fighter does this, only the way it's being done here is cowardly and low. Just my opinion. I'm sure your post will get ignored again like you didn't even post at all. They have selective reading comprehension...

First it was Manny doesnt like needles then someone brought up all his tatoos(More needle work than draw blood) and then now its they dont want it done after the first presser??? People are reading too much into this shit. Manny Pacquiao himself has said nothing about any phobia of needles, all these words are coming from elsewhere. He said nothing himself about testing, or what he will or won't agree to, it's all coming from Roach. According to Koncz, the whole issue of steroids and Olympic-style blood testing is a huge joke to Manny, he's literally laughing about it. The way I see it: The whole point here is not to give in to Mayweather's demands. The hoops he is trying to get Pacquiao to jump through are mental games. He is trying to win the fight before it's started, and usually every fighter does this, only the way it's being done here is cowardly and low. Just my opinion. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Obviously its goin to affect Pac more. I mean look at their previous fight, and you can already make your comparison there. You are comparing tennis players with professional prize fighters.. Are you serious?? The risk that tennis player take when they enter the court is not even remotely close to what fighter takes when they step in the ring. I mean boxing is a combat sport. Its not just stamina, punch resistance, conditioning, mental makeup. All these things are required for a fighter to be 100 percent.. And this blood test is more like a nuissance that disrupts the fighters' focus for the fight, not to mention an intrusion to a fighter's normal training routine. Imagine Pac not being to spar because he had to take the blood test. And Floyd is not just asking for 1 test but 6. This rumors was started by a former crackhead, so there is really no credibility there. Pac has been tested numerous times and has always tested negative.. The burden of proof doesn't lie on him. He doesn't need to do shit,imo. And the more reason why both fighter should be tested if they have nothing to hide, If a doctor comes out and tell us the effect of drawing blood at random then i might understand your objection to it until then both fighter should get tested off both of them could f**k off already.

actually they even moved on that. latest from roach is he's willing to do it a week before the fight as well. even 3 days before. You will never get this through to anyone Tua, I have been posting the same piece of info for the last 12 hours, and right after I post it, somebody usually pipes up "Waaaahhhh... Pacquiao is refusing to be tested!" The lack of reading and comprehension skills on this board are downright terrifying. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

How would we know if this would affect either fighter??? Like i said before most sport require using energy, Tennis is the combination of energy and endurance and they get tested randomly without someone coming out and saying they would feel somehow if they draw blood from them. I really dont like the excuses Team Pac are coming out with, I think this is a way to even clear their name and put an end to those steriods rumours, I have never accuse Manny of steriods but whats going on now is making me think twice. First it was Manny doesnt like needles then someone brought up all his tatoos(More needle work than draw blood) and then now its they dont want it done after the first presser??? Obviously its goin to affect Pac more. I mean look at their previous fight, and you can already make your comparison there. You are comparing tennis players with professional prize fighters.. Are you serious?? The risk that tennis player take when they enter the court is not even remotely close to what fighter takes when they step in the ring. I mean boxing is a combat sport. Its not just stamina, punch resistance, conditioning, mental makeup. All these things are required for a fighter to be 100 percent.. And this blood test is more like a nuissance that disrupts the fighters' focus for the fight, not to mention an intrusion to a fighter's normal training routine. Imagine Pac not being to spar because he had to take the blood test. And Floyd is not just asking for 1 test but 6. This rumors was started by a former crackhead, so there is really no credibility there. Pac has been tested numerous times and has always tested negative.. The burden of proof doesn't lie on him. He doesn't need to do shit,imo.

i dont think the tests will show up any substance that is currently on the forbidden list. i think there is a strong possibility that team pacman are taling something which isnt on the list but could show IF you make specific tests. even olympic testing has teh same prob - mr. bolt is an obviously the living prime example i am not making any judgement if pac tool something, because on the top there is nearly no way around it.

Maweather is getting tested.. That's true.. But you have to factor the fact that Pac would be the one exerting more energy in the fight than Floyd.. I mean Pac's pace is a lot faster and more sustained than Floyd.. And if you factor the fact that Pac would be the one chasing Floyd, you would know that Pac needs every ounce energy and conditioning he has. Team Mayweather knows this, that is why they are forcing him to take this test so close to the fight. Its not even about whether Pac is using steroids or not. How would we know if this would affect either fighter??? Like i said before most sport require using energy, Tennis is the combination of energy and endurance and they get tested randomly without someone coming out and saying they would feel somehow if they draw blood from them. I really dont like the excuses Team Pac are coming out with, I think this is a way to even clear their name and put an end to those steriods rumours, I have never accuse Manny of steriods but whats going on now is making me think twice. First it was Manny doesnt like needles then someone brought up all his tatoos(More needle work than draw blood) and then now its they dont want it done after the first presser???

Careless on Manny's part to have somebody giving him stuff to take and not knowing what us going in his body. its possible the language barrier would make it difficult for Ariza to explain what he does and Manny is a boxer whose main focus is on boxing. I can see how this can happen. I think it is more careless perhaps even asinine for Ariza to publicly say this. He just left it too open for it to be interpreted wrong. Whether or not what he is doing is legit or not he just opened up Pandora's box with that one.

Again is Pac the only one subject to the testing??? Am guessing Gayweather isnt getting tested.. Maweather is getting tested.. That's true.. But you have to factor the fact that Pac would be the one exerting more energy in the fight than Floyd.. I mean Pac's pace is a lot faster and more sustained than Floyd.. And if you factor the fact that Pac would be the one chasing Floyd, you would know that Pac needs every ounce energy and conditioning he has. Team Mayweather knows this, that is why they are forcing him to take this test so close to the fight. Its not even about whether Pac is using steroids or not.

Oh Bullshit, getting blood drawn makes your body woozy and your head dizzy. Its oxygen taken out of your body.. Lame excuse is trying to force Pac to take test that has not been done by any fighter because of accusation based on rumor spread by the same people forcing him to do so... Again is Pac the only one subject to the testing??? Am guessing Gayweather isnt getting tested..

So you are a professional boxer or a pactards??? Because from your post it seem if am not backing Pac then am a flomo?? Nice one mate, Normally i wouldnt respond to childish rants like yours but i took expection from someone like you unless you're a pro boxer and have been tested before. Well my opinion is as good yours because you are not a professional boxer either. I mean I had points in that post, and all you saw is the statement about me calling you a flomo...

you guys if you read the ESPN article that Dondi put up it says the testing should be random whenever the USADA wants it. If its not done like that, the whole purpose of it would mean nothing. I concur... That's why they're called random drug test for a reason, to catch somebody if he's doing something fishy. If I were a Pacquiao adviser, I'll advise Pacman to agree to a random drug test at any time before and after the fight BUT, with counter demands for Floyd. If Pacman fails ANY of his random drug test, he'll have to pay Floyd $10 million, but if he's squeaky clean, Floyd has to pay Pacman $5 million, Floyd Jr is getting 2-1 on his money. Since his genius dad is so sure that Pacman is on to something, this is like taking candy from a baby. Money talks and bullshit walks, it's all boils down about the money anyways isn't it?

U can't be sued for an opinion! Or every 4 yrs the losing presidential candidate would be getting sued! it's not outlandish to think an athlete is using steroids in a steroid age and time!you can. it's called slander. they've tried to ruin a mostly unsullied reputation. it's one thing for a bunch of losers like us to talk shit about some rumour but it's another to be in the public eye and shooting that shit without solid proof.

I hate this line of reasoning from flomos.. Professional boxing is different from other Olympic amateur sports. Olympics athletes body is not subjected to the same type of punishment that most professional fighters endure.. ...Blood test before a fight is risky because it disrupts fighter's mental focus and physical conditioning. Try to get a blood test and then have somebody punch you in the face, and see how it feels. Just because it works on the Olympics, it doesn't mean its the same with professional sport especially boxing.. If they want to detect steroids, then they should try to get body fluids that is naturally disposed by your body like urine, saliva.. Or they can try DNA testing from sample hair strands for HGH.. So you are a professional boxer or a pactards??? Because from your post it seem if am not backing Pac then am a flomo?? Nice one mate, Normally i wouldnt respond to childish rants like yours but i took expection from someone like you unless you're a pro boxer and have been tested before.

Lame excuse....and we don't believe U! We all donehad blood drawn before, it's nothing unless u dirty! Oh Bullshit, getting blood drawn makes your body woozy and your head dizzy. Its oxygen taken out of your body.. Lame excuse is trying to force Pac to take test that has not been done by any fighter because of accusation based on rumor spread by the same people forcing him to do so...

looks like the mayweathers found a way to get under their skin. i don't think manny is juicing but since floyd sr. put the idea out there people are talking about nothing else. if the allegations are found to be false pacquiao and his people should sue the mayweathers into bankruptcy for talking this shit. U can't be sued for an opinion! Or every 4 yrs the losing presidential candidate would be getting sued! it's not outlandish to think an athlete is using steroids in a steroid age and time!

I hate this line of reasoning from flomos.. Professional boxing is different from other Olympic amateur sports. Olympics athletes body is not subjected to the same type of punishment that most professional fighters endure.. ...Blood test before a fight is risky because it disrupts fighter's mental focus and physical conditioning. Try to get a blood test and then have somebody punch you in the face, and see how it feels. Just because it works on the Olympics, it doesn't mean its the same with professional sport especially boxing.. If they want to detect steroids, then they should try to get body fluids that is naturally disposed by your body like urine, saliva.. Or they can try DNA testing from sample hair strands for HGH.. Lame excuse....and we don't believe U! We all donehad blood drawn before, it's nothing unless u dirty!

looks like the mayweathers found a way to get under their skin. i don't think manny is juicing but since floyd sr. put the idea out there people are talking about nothing else. if the allegations are found to be false pacquiao and his people should sue the mayweathers into bankruptcy for talking this shit.

These excuses is shocking to me, Professional athlete get tested all the time especially the sprinters (Olympic style), You cannot dictate when you want a test done on you and am beginning to get suspicious with this stuff coming from Team Pacquiao. I hate this line of reasoning from flomos.. Professional boxing is different from other Olympic amateur sports. Olympics athletes body is not subjected to the same type of punishment that most professional fighters endure.. ...Blood test before a fight is risky because it disrupts fighter's mental focus and physical conditioning. Try to get a blood test and then have somebody punch you in the face, and see how it feels. Just because it works on the Olympics, it doesn't mean its the same with professional sport especially boxing.. If they want to detect steroids, then they should try to get body fluids that is naturally disposed by your body like urine, saliva.. Or they can try DNA testing from sample hair strands for HGH..