If the fight still went on without PAC agreeing to this "Blood" thing..

I said well, everything was agreed on but one guy ain't wanted to get drug tested. She looked strange and said ain't they get tested anyway. I said yes, for certain things but they only take urine... and Mayweather wanted blood... You forgot to mention to her that PAC agreed to the blood testing just not so close to the fight.. they can even take blood immediately after the fight..

..And went on to defeat FLoyd..Would you think the win is questionable? I always said no, because allegations are allegations... but that was because I thought he would take the test... now I don't know anymore... I just went to my girlfriend and she has no real idea of boxing and told her damn the biggest fight could have made is off... she said why... I said well, everything was agreed on but one guy ain't wanted to get drug tested. She looked strange and said ain't they get tested anyway. I said yes, for certain things but they only take urine... and Mayweather wanted blood... I told her that he is afraid of needles... she looked strange again... this is just an example... I think everyone who is unbiased and has nothing to do with Mayweather or Pacquiao will find it suspicious. Mayweather once said if I remember right that he will fight him even if he is on something... so on the one side it still could be done but on the other side the promotion leading up to this fight will get so ugly... Mayweather will troll him about that... Roach will fire back with ugly shit... this will probably sell a lot but I see real hatred coming out of that and a dirty promotion that won't do boxing no good... it is sad... man X-Mas couldn't have started better *Loooooooooooooooooooooooool*

Wow. This whole fiasco is unbelievable. No, a Pacquiao win would not be tainted. However, the entire point of this whole mess of bulllshit from Golden Boy and Floyd's camp is to provide an excuse to dig into Pacquiao, and WHEN the fight does occur in March, they will have an excuse to bury an unfavorable result. It's pretty clear that De La Hoya doesn't care for Pacquiao as well. The best thing to do, as fans of the sport, is disregard this entire jumble of bullshit and hype tactics and just wait for the fight, because it is definitely going to happen. If you want to buy into Floyd Senior's incoherent ramblings, then go ahead. In the meantime, you can also question every win that Floyd Jr. has ever had, every win that Yuri Foreman has ever had, every win that Miguel Cotto has ever had, every win that Ricky Hatton has ever had, every win that Vitali Klitschko has ever had, every win that Bernard Hopkins has ever had, etc etc etc because none of them have ever had to undergo Olympic style testing for a professional fight. It's unprecedented for a reason, and that reason is that the Nevada State Athletic Commission does a fine job as it is. If Olympic style testing is going to be used here, it needs to be used for all fights. Why is it OK for a top-10 (but not top 2) fighter to use things that might possibly be detected by a blood sample but not urine? It's just stupid. Wasn't Floyd saying how Marquez was a tougher fight and that he ranked him higher in the P4P list than Manny? Funny how their camp didn't make Marquez give blood half a dozen times in the leadup to the fight. As I said in another thread, I love watching Floyd as a boxer, but his family (blood, and connections) are a grouping of douchebags. Agreed. All this shit brought up is because Floyd is simply scared and is trying everything in the books to play minds game. All this talk should be ridiculed because it's wrong on so many levels. Pacquaio should stick the 'V' at them because if it's one rule for one person then the same goes for the rest.

I really think that people are forgetting how legitimate the NSAC is. People are also forgetting (or just not reading?) the fact that Pacquiao's camp says that he will give blood immediately after the fight. Dude, there's a reason blood is taken before the fight. Dopers are always ahead of the game as far as testing goes. It is the testing that has to play catch up.

Yes. How could you not? I still think his win over Cotto is questionable.

Have we ever seen blood test before in boxing? We honestly do not know what negative effects it will have on either fighter taking it so close to the fight. Boxing is a whole different animal than racing and swimming. The physical and mental aspect of boxing is beyond any other sport. Especially the mental part. And, I might be wrong about this. But, does not want it 2 or 3 weeks before. So anytime anyplace before 3 weeks is ok. And, they are willing to do one after the fight. I don't know how long HGH or roids stay in your system. But, if he uses HGH or roids during that 3 week time span. Is it possible that it will show up when they take the blood test after the fight? that's the whole loophole here, if he just took it how Floyd asked for it there will be no questions but you saw the question you asked, will it show up after the fight? no one can know for SURE but at least nothing can be said about Pacquiao being that he didn't hide, whatever test they wanted they got

no. you can't suspect pacquiao of cheating just because he denies taking a blood test. it's the same way that you can't doubt a defendant in court because they plead the 5th.

you're trying to give him credit, I understand what you're saying and where you're going but Manny ain't like a Cotto who doesn't make crazy demands himself, he does that shit too and all too often recently so this is fair game. he's asking for 2 tests at a set time apart in which he can probably maneuver some shit to bypass the shit popping up in his system, days he can be prepared for but in the way Mayweather wants there is no way to prepare, ANYTIME at anyplace BOTH guys can be tested and can't hide nothing, what's the problem? Have we ever seen blood test before in boxing? We honestly do not know what negative effects it will have on either fighter taking it so close to the fight. Boxing is a whole different animal than racing and swimming. The physical and mental aspect of boxing is beyond any other sport. Especially the mental part. And, I might be wrong about this. But, does not want it 2 or 3 weeks before. So anytime anyplace before 3 weeks is ok. And, they are willing to do one after the fight. I don't know how long HGH or roids stay in your system. But, if he uses HGH or roids during that 3 week time span. Is it possible that it will show up when they take the blood test after the fight?

Crillz bro he said he is willing to do one after the fight and before the fight. He agree to that as soon as the Mayweather camp came with that. I don't understand why everybody is acting like Manny is not willing to do a blood test. When in fact he is willing to do 2 blood test when really his requirement is zero. There is no "IF" he is willing to do 2 blood test. Until he busted he is clean to me and I don't and won't question any win. you're trying to give him credit, I understand what you're saying and where you're going but Manny ain't like a Cotto who doesn't make crazy demands himself, he does that shit too and all too often recently so this is fair game. he's asking for 2 tests at a set time apart in which he can probably maneuver some shit to bypass the shit popping up in his system, days he can be prepared for but in the way Mayweather wants there is no way to prepare, ANYTIME at anyplace BOTH guys can be tested and can't hide nothing, what's the problem?

All of Mayweather's wins = Tainted, no olympic style blood tests :nod: :laugh: Tainted is a shame no credit. Pac is tainted, Floyd is tainted, the whole sport of boxing is tainted.

Exactly, if people are saying they will question the win. Then they should question ever single fighter in the modern era who has ever won a fight. All of Mayweather's wins = Tainted, no olympic style blood tests :nod: :laugh:

Sooooo.... What would be the difference between a Pac win and a win by anybody else who has ever tested NEGATIVE in the past or anybody else who ever will test NEGATIVE in the future? Will their wins be tainted too if they don't submit to olympic style tests? Pavlik's win over Espino? Tainted, no olympic style blood tests Williams' win over Martinez? Tainted, no olympic style blood tests _______'s win over _______? Tainted, no olympic style blood tests :lol1: Exactly, if people are saying they will question the win. Then they should question ever single fighter in the modern era who has ever won a fight.

If Manny opts not to agree or comply,It's his prerogative. No rules are broken.! and having a test after fight ends is already a proof! haters will find a way just like Gayweather is looking for a way out.

Sooooo.... What would be the difference between a Pac win and a win by anybody else who has ever tested NEGATIVE in the past or anybody else who ever will test NEGATIVE in the future? Will their wins be tainted too if they don't submit to olympic style tests? Pavlik's win over Espino? Tainted, no olympic style blood tests Williams' win over Martinez? Tainted, no olympic style blood tests _______'s win over _______? Tainted, no olympic style blood tests :lol1:

How could anyone say no? I mean, we're talking about Pacquiao only going threw with the match up unless the testing wasn't gonna go down. That should raise a suspicion. I really think that people are forgetting how legitimate the NSAC is. People are also forgetting (or just not reading?) the fact that Pacquiao's camp says that he will give blood immediately after the fight.

How could anyone say no? I mean, we're talking about Pacquiao only going threw with the match up unless the testing wasn't gonna go down. That should raise a suspicion. Is he not willing to do two blood test and as many urine test they want?

How could anyone say no? I mean, we're talking about Pacquiao only going threw with the match up unless the testing wasn't gonna go down. That should raise a suspicion. Wrong. He'll go through with the testing, but not so close to the fight. It could affect him biochemically... Or so he thinks.

and what if he doesn't? you see how the "what if's" never end? the only way to end the what if is to put up or shut the **** up and that is what Floyd is trying to do, ain't no what if nothing if Manny just accepts but since he wont you have to create a what if, Floyd got the "what IS" and Pacquiao at this point got the "what IF" Crillz bro he said he is willing to do one after the fight and before the fight. He agree to that as soon as the Mayweather camp came with that. I don't understand why everybody is acting like Manny is not willing to do a blood test. When in fact he is willing to do 2 blood test when really his requirement is zero. There is no "IF" he is willing to do 2 blood test. Until he busted he is clean to me and I don't and won't question any win.

How could anyone say no? I mean, we're talking about Pacquiao only going threw with the match up unless the testing wasn't gonna go down. That should raise a suspicion.

Honestly no, until he gets busted that is when I will say yes. And, he is willing to take the blood test after the fight. And, if he passes that what is there to question? and what if he doesn't? you see how the "what if's" never end? the only way to end the what if is to put up or shut the **** up and that is what Floyd is trying to do, ain't no what if nothing if Manny just accepts but since he wont you have to create a what if, Floyd got the "what IS" and Pacquiao at this point got the "what IF"