Well? Why is his team being hesistant to do it?
First it was Roach saying that they dint care about any tests and they will do it.
Now it's that Manny has a phobia of needles...
If it's only a tea spoon, why so serious?
Discuss.....
Let me ask you how can steroids get out of your blood? It even shows up in the urine. How can EPO, testerone and HGH can possibly leave your system. If PAC is using it will show up in his system if he do the blood test after the fight.
PED come in all forms I never specified, maybe they will still be in his system maybe they will not but I do know if you test randomly during training you are much more likely to catch a cheater then if someone know exactly when it is comming.
Do you know what the next generation of PED are? Do you know what some Dr. has brewed up that no one has seen before?
The main benefit from PED are derived during training, by the time of the fight the benefits will be gained but the evidence would probably be gone (since I assume tehy know what they are doing).
IF you know when you are getting tested it is much easier to hide what you are doing.
Let me ask you how can steroids get out of your blood? It even shows up in the urine. How can EPO, testerone and HGH can possibly leave your system. If PAC is using it will show up in his system if he do the blood test after the fight.
PAC already agreed to do blood test right after the fight. So what diffrence does it make.
The main benefit from PED are derived during training, by the time of the fight the benefits will be gained but the evidence would probably be gone (since I assume tehy know what they are doing).
IF you know when you are getting tested it is much easier to hide what you are doing.
Well now I want to see what is going on with him by refusing the request, just because the sport does not require the best testing does not mean someone is wrong for asking for more stringent testing, there is a thing called advancement you known doing things better then have previously been done?
You can say whatever you want about his reasoning but the case can be made that those are excuses. Since Floyd has pretty much agreed to everything else and Manny is the one with issues to testing that both will be doing I would question how you would call it Floyd's fault for this fight not going through if this is the reason why.
Blood tests are far more accurate then urine test, pretty much at the highest level they should only be testing blood.
PAC already agreed to do blood test right after the fight. So what diffrence does it make.
Detecting strange substances in the body is also way more difficult then detecting loaded gloves.
They generally say that the PED are always ahead of the tests if the PED are on the cutting edge anyways.
the only way athletes did not get caught before was because they were only subjected to urine test. Blood test will reveal just about everything that will not show up in urine. The implementation of blood test started in Sydney.
Why do you care what this 36-0 groupie thinks. You know his riding this steroid alligations againts Pac like his riding Marg's.
I have had good conversations with him before
You have your opinion but agreeing to random blood samples at anytime is un****ingheard of in this sport. 30 days before and right after along with 24/7 urine tests is perfectly adequete.
Oh and how do you know he's cheating? He's that ****ing good get over it. Floyd doesn't want the fight. At the end of the day if i'm a fighter and i have certain superstitions or rituals i dont think id want to break them either. agreeing to unlimited blood tests and any time is absolutely moronic.
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Well now I want to see what is going on with him by refusing the request, just because the sport does not require the best testing does not mean someone is wrong for asking for more stringent testing, there is a thing called advancement you known doing things better then have previously been done?
You can say whatever you want about his reasoning but the case can be made that those are excuses. Since Floyd has pretty much agreed to everything else and Manny is the one with issues to testing that both will be doing I would question how you would call it Floyd's fault for this fight not going through if this is the reason why.
Blood tests are far more accurate then urine test, pretty much at the highest level they should only be testing blood.
Any Pac fan would agreed with me that steroids or not mannys a top of the line supremely conditioned athlete. Therefore whether it be a tablespoon or a pint of blood he should be able to fight without any effect.
And godforsake he did take something before the cotto fight, it wouldn't still be in his system. So i have no idea why hes refusing to take a test, the only solution i can think of is he was on something and doesn't think he can win without it
Ya, same here.
But it's not just because he wont take it, it's the fact that they TEam Pac said that they had no problem whatsoever on taking any test!
So it's ok for Floyd to give in to all of Pac's demands why cant Pac give in to one of Floyds?
Just because your not as supersitious as pac is doesn't mean your in the right. Raised in a different culture, different values, different family, different society. How about open up your mind a bit and realize that maybe not everyone sees things the way you do?
Oh and you do realize this is something that has never been done in boxing? 24/7 urine tests with a blood sample 30 days prior to fight and just after is fine. Floyd doesnt want it.
So it is ok with you if a guy is cheating in a way not to get caught aslong as he never gets found out?
Olympic style testing comes from olympics sport those are athletes that are doing it and compete at the highest level, now boxing is a tough ass sport amybe the thoughest but still it is a sport and athletes are known to look for an edge.
I do not see what is so wrong about testing in a way that is more stringent, if he was asking for more lax testing I could see the problem with it, but this method of testing is a better way of catching cheaters.
You have your opinion but agreeing to random blood samples at anytime is un****ingheard of in this sport. 30 days before and right after along with 24/7 urine tests is perfectly adequete.
Oh and how do you know he's cheating? He's that ****ing good get over it. Floyd doesn't want the fight. At the end of the day if i'm a fighter and i have certain superstitions or rituals i dont think id want to break them either. agreeing to unlimited blood tests and any time is absolutely moronic.
Almost fanman!
And the current excuses used by team pacq to refuse the random testing is as bogus as u and the rest of the pacqfans! Give the blood or be known as a cheater forever!
A guy got caught with loaded gloves less than a year ago and we are not to be suspicious when shyt like this occurs? GTFOH!
These are so called "BOXING FANS"? :nonono:
Hey retard, pacman is that good let it be known. He's so good your dumb ass thinks he's on steroids. You're probably 15 and far from a doctor so since you know shit all about steroids i won't bother talking to you.
You all need to understand that floyd needs pac, pac doesn't need floyd. pac is the higher atg. boxing needs the fight, but pacman doesn't. he's solidified.
Detecting strange substances in the body is also way more difficult then detecting loaded gloves.
They generally say that the PED are always ahead of the tests if the PED are on the cutting edge anyways.
ya, well they need to start coming up with better tests.
anyways am off to bed, I got work tomorrow and I need to get up early so I can clock out early for the holidays! peace!
Detecting strange substances in the body is also way more difficult then detecting loaded gloves.
They generally say that the PED are always ahead of the tests if the PED are on the cutting edge anyways.
Well you have got to invent it before you can test for it. :lol1:
No he's not, if you know when the tests are coming you can work around it not to get caught.
How can you work around the blood test? Floyd wants it 24-48 hours before the fight. PAC wants it right after the fight. It makes no diffrence.
Ever since the Margarito scandal, Im starting to think if some of these tests and commission people are even doing their job right....:purity:
Detecting strange substances in the body is also way more difficult then detecting loaded gloves.
They generally say that the PED are always ahead of the tests if the PED are on the cutting edge anyways.
No he's not, if you know when the tests are coming you can work around it not to get caught.
I thought Pacquiao or Roach was only complaining that it shouldn't be within 3 days before the fight? Other than those days, it gonna be random I think.
1. Who is floyd to demand this shit?
2. Why is not ok to give blood 30 days before and right after the fight?
3. The NSAC testing is legit.
4. If you are a fighter why the **** would you agree to give blood randomly anytime throughout training camp that could hinder your performance? Is this not why mayweather came in at 146 vs marquez? jesus.
5. who the **** are you to just blindly take shaefaers word that a teaspoon of blood is all they need for testing? are you doctors? do some homework. this board is a circus.
6. **** mayweather he can retire again for all fans should care. the prick wants to make all these demands on who he says is 'too small for him'. floyds an insult to the sport of boxing.
Almost fanman!
And the current excuses used by team pacq to refuse the random testing is as bogus as u and the rest of the pacqfans! Give the blood or be known as a cheater forever!
A guy got caught with loaded gloves less than a year ago and we are not to be suspicious when shyt like this occurs? GTFOH!
These are so called "BOXING FANS"? :nonono: