“I don’t have any problem with that. But no blood tests close to the fight. They can take urine tests,” said Roach, adding that it’s how they do it in the Olympics.
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Gotta ask is because Roach thinks RBC count would be low and would take a while for it to climb back up? Thoughts? How much does the olympic testers take?
Totally agree with this ^^^
People asking for blood tests are scared
When did Pacquiao refuse the blood tests? I thought they couldn't agree on the CUT OFF?
FFS
If you're going to argue something get it right. You're only making yourself look stupid.
Crazy part is Bey got off because they said he took the PEDs too close to the fight to have any significant effect on the fight.
I read up on the Bey PED issue and this dude took shots 3 times, 1st was 1 month prior to the fight.
How in the world did he get off?
Haha... Floyd cult members are trying very hard. Floyd had 19 days cut off in the Mosley fight and 18 in the Ortiz fight... Who would make Floyd take blood test close to the fight? Not in your dreams. He's not even taking urine, let alone blood close to the fight. And he failed three tests... hehe... And he's supposed to be the sport cleaner.... keep on fooling yourselves.
Yeah, after the fight would probably suffice. What counts as "Close to the fight"? 3 weeks? I'm not up to par with my knowledge of performance enhancers, but I doubt they have stuff that would clear the bloodstream in three weeks.
i dont know about that they were saying when braun got busted u got be really unlucky as some the stuff takes only days to hours to be un detectable
Totally agree with this ^^^
People asking for blood tests are scared
Imagine if that scared guy then puts other roadblocks every time the opponent agrees to the previous one?
You must call him worse than just scared. DUCKER and scared? What do you think would be appropriate?
Pac had his blood taken before on his first fight with Morales. And he complained that he felt weakened by it.
it's not a good thing to get blood taken out of you near the fight.
I don't understand what's with all these ***** demands by the Mayweather camp.
Pac already passed all the NSAC test.Then, They wanted an olympic tyle drug testing, Pac complied.
Now they want blood taken out of PAc near a f*ckin fight. I don't about ya'll but it looks to me that the Mayweather camp are paranoid as f*ck. They're scared.
Totally agree with this ^^^
People asking for blood tests are scared
My opinion is Manny is by far the better fighter, and he's proven it. Floyd is the better boxer. For me, there's a significant difference. He needs to prove he is a better fighter.
Anyway, I need to go get some milk before the shop closes. Later. :yo:
And I believe that Floyd is a better fighter than Manny, and will prove it in the ring. But we really cannot know until they get in the ring with one another.
Listen man I understand that. Pac is exciting as hell and great for the sport of boxing. But just because Floyd does not knock all of his opponents out does not mean his wins are not legitimate. Even you know you are not giving him enough credit for his victories.
Have they been as impressive as Manny's recently?
No way.
That does not mean Manny is the better fighter, though...
My opinion is Manny is by far the better fighter, and he's proven it. Floyd is the better boxer. For me, there's a significant difference. He needs to prove he is a better fighter.
Anyway, I need to go get some milk before the shop closes. Later. :yo:
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The "above post" means nothing, just like your opinion which is no more valid than mine. Seriously, who the hell are you to say what is and what isn't important? Get the f*ck off your high horse, homey.
My opinion is something that is supported by boxing experts. Yours is not.
Like if I said, Manny Pac is not top 100 all time, and you said he was, and boxing experts agreed with you, who is right? Who's opinion is more valid?
And you cannot deny you are pro Manny and anti Floyd.
He didn't do anything that made me go "WOW, holy shit, did you see what Floyd just did to _______?"
I get that nearly every fight with Pacquiao.
Instead, Floyd made me go "Ugh... well, that wasn't very interesting" and "What's he running from Baldomir for?" and "Damn. I should have gone out with my friends instead of staying in to watch this weak shit".
Listen man I understand that. Pac is exciting as hell and great for the sport of boxing. But just because Floyd does not knock all of his opponents out does not mean his wins are not legitimate. Even you know you are not giving him enough credit for his victories.
Have they been as impressive as Manny's recently?
No way.
That does not mean Manny is the better fighter, though...
see above post.
and no, its not. you are clearly biased against Floyd.
The "above post" means nothing, just like your opinion which is no more valid than mine. Seriously, who the hell are you to say what is and what isn't important? Get the f*ck off your high horse, homey.
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can i join the show-and-tell session? i promise that i'll behave.
Pacquiao's resume:
- Ricky Hatton
- Oscar De La Hoya
- Juan Manuel Marquez x2 (Many people thought Marquez won the second one, but Jon presented the reason why Pacquiao won, I just cannot recall it).
- Marco Antonio Barerra x2
- Erik Morales x3 (Pacquiao lost the first match because he was both not a fully developed fighter, and he didn't take Morales seriously).
Total: 9, 1 questionable, 1 loss.
Mayweather's resume:
- Juan Manuel Marquez (this fight was a total sham in disguise).
- Ricky Hatton (some people had Mayweather losing this).
- Oscar De La Hoya (lots of people had Mayweather losing this one).
- Zab Judah
- Jose Luis Castillo x2 (Floyd won a gift decision the first time).
Total: 6, 3 questionable, 1 sham.
LOL wtf???
Who had Floyd losing a fight he knocked out his opponent in?
You idiot. Floyd was dominating that fight.
He clearly beat DLH and he edged out JLC, but ill give you a questionable there.
If you going to use a resume, shouldnt you inculde the two times Manny was knocked out by his opponents?
this may be the worst post I have ever seen in BS history.
The difference is what I am saying about his resume flows with what the logical boxing community believes. Floyd was number 1 p4p. He is a hall of fame, top 50 atg fighter. He was the number 1 welterweight during his reign....
impressive for a guy who did nothing for 7 years.
He didn't do anything that made me go "WOW, holy shit, did you see what Floyd just did to _______?"
I get that nearly every fight with Pacquiao.
Instead, Floyd made me go "Ugh... well, that wasn't very interesting" and "What's he running from Baldomir for?" and "Damn. I should have gone out with my friends instead of staying in to watch this weak shit".
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The Dawson vs Johnson comparison was an example to show that just because a judge scores a fight a certian way, does not mean that fight went that way. I mean Dawson won 10 rounds easy, but that judge had him winning 7. Just becaue a guy gave the fight to DLH does not mean it was a close fight.
And I am not sure who you were watching that fight with, but you might want to hang out with some people who know a little more about boxing and how to score a fight.
I could ask you the same question. You're getting personal. This is a sign of weakness in your arguments.
It's a forum, dude. A public one. My opinion is as valid as anyone else's.
see above post.
and no, its not. you are clearly biased against Floyd.
Likewise, who give s a **** what YOU say about his resume?
Nope. I like it when fighters lose, it either makes them a better fighter or destroys their career. PS: Chavez Jr. has never lost a fight. Same with Calzaghe. Undefeated = overrated.
It wasn't all that clear, I know a ton of people who watched it live with me who thought it could have gone either way, some say Oscar won. When people say JMM beat Pacquiao, I'll say Oscar beat Mayweather just to be an ass like them.
Not sure what this has to do with anything we're talking about.
It's true. I hate Floyd's personality and I'd like to slap his gullible fans, but not his boxing technique, which I think is very good.
OK, don't argue then. I don't mind if you don't. There's no need to defend Floyd. I'm sorry for wasting your "time" which is obviously so precious to you.
The difference is what I am saying about his resume flows with what the logical boxing community believes. Floyd was number 1 p4p. He is a hall of fame, top 50 atg fighter. He was the number 1 welterweight during his reign....
impressive for a guy who did nothing for 7 years.
LOL. Not impressive according to you.
But then again, since when is your opinion relevant or important?
I could ask you the same question. You're getting personal. This is a sign of weakness in your arguments.
It's a forum, dude. A public one. My opinion is as valid as anyone else's.
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