Not exactly. Ward was also better on the outside. He has a good jab, unlike Hatton. And I don't expect every fight of Ward's to be like this. He won't be fighting this much on the inside against the other guys. The reason he made it this kind of a fight was because Green was fighting like a bum on the inside. Why not keep at it if it is working?
I know call me crazy but it actually pisses me off more if a fighter is winning and then uses dirty tactics. Your already winning for god sakes! :no:
It's because Ward is a dirty fighter in his heart and soul. It wasn't out of frustration against Kessler it's just the way he fights. I hope the referee enforces the rules better in his next supersix fight against Taylor.
It's ridiculous when a poster in this thread says that the Kessler fight is the only one where Ward fought dirty. I haven't seen a fight where he didn't hold.
Andre Ward>>>>>Ricky Hatton.
Footwork>>>>>>>1-2 step.
They are two totally different fighters. Ricky Hatton's career was built on throw a punch and clinch. Ward actually has skills.
Yeah, when i watch Ward fight, i try to imagine him fighting w/o any dirty tactics, and i still see him as a very skilled, tough boxer. He's pretty much a complete boxer..well rounded with good punching power, good jab, nice timing, great lateral movement, good head movement, very good inside work, good defense, stamina, focus and confidence.
He doesn't get intimidated or discouraged easily. But i would really like him to clean up his style a bit...no need for him to resort to any dirty tactics. Like i keep saying, if he can get past AA...he's got the tourney. Also, i would think if there was much clinching in his fight with Miranda, it was M that was doing the clinching, cuz Ward was boxing his ears off...I don't remember the fight that well, and i didn't record it.
Even if he did do most of the clinching, i don't blame him. After all, we're talking about the guy that broke AA's jaw! I'm sure Ward did everything legal to avoid THAT happening...lol.
Andre Ward>>>>>Ricky Hatton.
Footwork>>>>>>>1-2 step.
They are two totally different fighters. Ricky Hatton's career was built on throw a punch and clinch. Ward actually has skills.
He's(black fighter) used dirty tactics in ALL his fights, except against Miranda he was in with someone(another black fighter) just as dirty as himself.
Download and watch his fights from our videos section, you'll see what I mean.
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I know call me crazy but it actually pisses me off more if a fighter is winning and then uses dirty tactics. Your already winning for god sakes! :no:
I get what you're saying, but it just annoys me when people say that a fighter was winning anyway like that's a good enough reason for them to break the rules
To agree with you both to a point...i see a some boxers that are developing this "leading with the head" becoming more popular as a "style" (bs)
It's not needed and i don't like it.
Clottey for one is famous for leading with the head. I admitted ward did it uneccesarily, as he was going to beat Kessler anyway, i don't like it either.
No, i wouldn't call you crazy...just crazylegs...lol. Ok, poor attempt at humor...
I agree with you more than not about the headbutting. but i just think you aren't giving Ward enough credit, which is your opinion and i respect your right to it. This is a nice respectful discussion.
With respect to your post, most headbutts are really hard to call if they were intentional or not. Sometimes they are obvious. Other times just an accident.
I don't think it's ok to cheat if you're winning OR losing. Maybe some people do, but i would say a good boxing fan doesn't.
I get what you're saying, but it just annoys me when people say that a fighter was winning anyway like that's a good enough reason for them to break the rules
This is what i don't get, people think it's OK to cheat if you're winning. :lol1:
I know call me crazy but it actually pisses me off more if a fighter is winning and then uses dirty tactics. Your already winning for god sakes! :no:
This is what i don't get, people think it's OK to cheat if you're winning. :lol1:
With respect to your post, most headbutts are really hard to call if they were intentional or not. Sometimes they are obvious. Other times just an accident.
I don't think it's ok to cheat if you're winning OR losing. Maybe some people do, but i would say a good boxing fan doesn't.
a headbutt..boo fukin hoo..coulda sworn there was an asswhoopin brewing BEFORE A HEADBUTT in that fight anyway...???
Yeah, there was...Ward was opening a can of woop-ass on Kessler w/o any dirty tactics. Take them out of the picture and you still have a Ward Victory.
a headbutt..boo fukin hoo..coulda sworn there was an asswhoopin brewing BEFORE A HEADBUTT in that fight anyway...???
This is what i don't get, people think it's OK to cheat if you're winning. :lol1:
Ward doesn't fight like Hatton, who wasn't really dirty at all.
Hatton was a good inside boxer, while Ward is just DIRTY with his headbutts to his opponents' faces, hitting on the break, etc.
True, Thats a good point.
He dived in full force with his head which is much worse than any amount of clinching.
a headbutt..boo fukin hoo..coulda sworn there was an asswhoopin brewing BEFORE A HEADBUTT in that fight anyway...???
Ward doesn't fight like Hatton, who wasn't really dirty at all.
Hatton was a good inside boxer, while Ward is just DIRTY with his headbutts to his opponents' faces, hitting on the break, etc.
He beat Miranda pretty well, and Ward got headbutted on that fight early, but recovered well and went on to beat him down. He didn't headbutt him. And Miranda broke AA's jaw!
Yeah, i agree Ward used his head too much against Kessler, but he didn't even need to. He would have won that fight anyway, with no dirty tactics.
So far i seen of Ward, the only fight he used dirty tactics in was with kesslar, and SOME of them were a little borderline.
The way Hatton used to hold/get rough inside/jumping in
Then Hatton no longer was allowed to fight like that.
Anyone else notice this?
No, i haven't noticed...and who told Hatton he was no longer "allowed" to fight like that? What you've stated happen all the time in boxing and are permitted to a point...not illegal. Fighting on the inside is not prohibited.
Oh, this in addition to your post in another thread saying Ward has no power...:thinking: