Kevin Johnson vs David Haye.

The guy in his avatar wasn't fighting a guy 7 foot tall and with a 7 stone weight advantage. Only Haye haters can talk shit about him beating Valuev.

Yeah but the guy in my avatar was a different gravy..... ;)

For Bitchko2009 and the other doubters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3fsXZLwjx0 0.40 seconds onwards.

I was actually quite impressed with the way Haye beat Valuev. He was picking his shots very well, and using good footwork to get out of the way of much of Valuev's offence. He's definitely a better boxer than I previously gave him credit for. Saying that, I still don't see him beating either Klit. They may be smaller than Valuev, but they're still massive men, and also considerably quicker and more talented, Wlad especially. Vitali may be slowing down (I'd like to reserve my judgement until his next fight) but he's still by far the most active and offensive heavyweight in the game, and his chin hasn't shown signs of cracking as of yet. These points need to be taken into consideration as well. I don't think he can decision either of them, but i think he has a chance to KO/TKO them.

So the excuse for Haye's lame performance in the Valuev fight is a busted hand? First it was because he had to adopt defensive tactics to have any chance against the "big hitting" Russian, now its a hand. Haye huggers need to make their minds up. You could fight well for 10 rounds with your favoured hand broken i suppose?

They are smaller than Valuev, it is also known that Wlad has a weak chin and Vitali could be slowing down it seems. Haye also injured his right hand (his money shot) early in the Valuev fight and had to use his left exclusively to win the decision, and he even rocked Valuev with a left (his secondary weapon so to say) in the final round. I'm not saying he beats them, but you have to take all these points into consideration, people think they saw the typical David Haye in the Valuev fight but it was actually a handicapped Haye with a huge size difference and an iron chin in front of him. I was actually quite impressed with the way Haye beat Valuev. He was picking his shots very well, and using good footwork to get out of the way of much of Valuev's offence. He's definitely a better boxer than I previously gave him credit for. Saying that, I still don't see him beating either Klit. They may be smaller than Valuev, but they're still massive men, and also considerably quicker and more talented, Wlad especially. Vitali may be slowing down (I'd like to reserve my judgement until his next fight) but he's still by far the most active and offensive heavyweight in the game, and his chin hasn't shown signs of cracking as of yet. These points need to be taken into consideration as well.

Haye already ducked Johnson. Did you retards watch Haye/Valuev? Haye is absolute garbage And dont put (lol) next to Johnson by KO. Haye has the weakest chin in the HW division. He has been knocked down and badly hurt by super middleweights and light heavyweights and was destroyed in 5 rounds by old shot light heavyweight Thompson (who has been KTFO 5 times). Johnson definitely has enough power to shatter Haye's awful glass chin. When will you acknowledge that Haye fought 10 rounds with a broken hand? And still won!

Johnson would upset Haye with his defense, I think. Also, Johnson wouldn't be as afraid of Haye's punches, so he, being the more natural heavyweight, would make Haye respect his weight, if not his power. However, Haye might enjoy the same advantages Pac enjoys if bigger opponents underestimate him, and catch Johnson as he gets too confident and opens up. But... Johnson seems like a REALLLL cautious dude. He probly wouldn't even think like that against Haye. And if he does that, he will pick Haye apart, and ultimately land something Haye is not comfortable with (ie. anything) That's why I would take a straddle bet, if I was betting. on one hand bet on Haye KO'ing Johnson, on the other hand, a decision for Johnson over Haye. but if forced to bet on just one, I'd go with Johnson by decision

Well, the Klits aren't exactly "normal sized guys" either. So what makes you think he KOs either of them? They are smaller than Valuev, it is also known that Wlad has a weak chin and Vitali could be slowing down it seems. Haye also injured his right hand (his money shot) early in the Valuev fight and had to use his left exclusively to win the decision, and he even rocked Valuev with a left (his secondary weapon so to say) in the final round. I'm not saying he beats them, but you have to take all these points into consideration, people think they saw the typical David Haye in the Valuev fight but it was actually a handicapped Haye with a huge size difference and an iron chin in front of him.

You are a douche. Have you seen the other 20 odd fights from Haye fighting normal sized guys? he is exciting to watch. He could not use the same style against a 7 foot giant, who also has 7 stone weight advantage. What this guy said. That was a perfectly laid out game plan which was needed because of the size difference. Next time, instead of just watching a fighter's recent fight maybe you should watch the rest of their career before you pass judgement on a fighter.

You are a douche. Have you seen the other 20 odd fights from Haye fighting normal sized guys? he is exciting to watch. He could not use the same style against a 7 foot giant, who also has 7 stone weight advantage. Well, the Klits aren't exactly "normal sized guys" either. So what makes you think he KOs either of them?

Going by their most recent performances you're talking about two extremely dull and defensive fighters. I think they'd bore each other to death. You are a douche. Have you seen the other 20 odd fights from Haye fighting normal sized guys? he is exciting to watch. He could not use the same style against a 7 foot giant, who also has 7 stone weight advantage.

I wouldn't care to see that fight. In fact I wouldn't care to ever watch Johnson again, but that's by the by. Regarding the probable outcome, I see Haye aggressive in the early going, trying to KO Johnson when he pins him against the ropes, and Johnson resorting to defensive mode. By about the mid rounds, when Haye finds it frustrating to land clean on Johnson, he'll resort to throwing single jabs from the outside and exploding with combinations every so often to catch the judges' eye whilst getting caught with the occasional jab, as his poor stamina increasingly makes itself an issue. Late rounds become a clinchfest as Johnson increasingly starts to press forward, winning a few rounds by virtue of Haye slowing right down. Fight goes to the cards, Haye wins a close decision.

Haye would KO Johnson imo.

Haye already ducked Johnson. Did you retards watch Haye/Valuev? Haye is absolute garbage And dont put (lol) next to Johnson by KO. Haye has the weakest chin in the HW division. He has been knocked down and badly hurt by super middleweights and light heavyweights and was destroyed in 5 rounds by old shot light heavyweight Thompson (who has been KTFO 5 times). Johnson definitely has enough power to shatter Haye's awful glass chin. Ive been reading your posts on here lately and can safely say you are the worst poster ever to grace this forum.

right. :ugh: cause johnson just chose to take a few hundred power punches at a 50% + connect ratio. Power punches? either Quitali has no power or none of the 'power' shots were landing on Johnsons chin. Quitali was cut from Johnsons jab for crying out loud.

His style would give a lot of fighters problems but like last night, he taunted Vitali by hanging his chin out. If he does this against Haye he gets KO'd. Johnson saw Vitali's punches coming, he won't see Haye's coming. :boxing: right. :ugh: cause johnson just chose to take a few hundred power punches at a 50% + connect ratio.

i dunno about this fight. haye has a little pop, but is a bit timid to engage. also doesnt have a great defence from the 6 or 7 fights i have seen of his. johnson, unlike with vitali, would not be as scared to actually open up to some offence. so that would make this fight a bit interesting. haye hasnt really gained respect from boxers as he has from fans whose imaginations have haye beating everyone in heavyweight history. anyways, speaking of people trying to trash a vitali victory, how many people here have fought or sparred a guy who is only being defensive or trying not to get ko'd? how many here have ever even fought or sparred? yeah, thought so.

Kevin's jab and shoulder roll defense would give Haye all sorts of problems. Seeing how everyone voted, I would get some decent guap on this one. His style would give a lot of fighters problems but like last night, he taunted Vitali by hanging his chin out. If he does this against Haye he gets KO'd. Johnson saw Vitali's punches coming, he won't see Haye's coming. :boxing:

Kevin's jab and shoulder roll defense would give Haye all sorts of problems. Seeing how everyone voted, I would get some decent guap on this one.