Is Calzaghe the best SMW of all time?

Sven Ottke had 21 title defences and retired undeafeted just like Calzaghe. btw. Even though most of his so called wins was blatant robberys he still had guys like Glen Johnson, Robin Reid, Anthony Mundine and Byron Mitchell on his resume. I really don't see what makes Calzaghe so much better at 168 than Sven Ottke, I really don't... In terms of quality of opposition they are about equal, but Calzaghe should get the nod because he actually beat his opponents fairly. The only fight ive seen of Ottke was the Robin Reid fight, damn that was a robbery, the ref was dreadful.

Sven Ottke had 21 title defences and retired undeafeted just like Calzaghe. btw. Even though most of his so called wins was blatant robberys he still had guys like Glen Johnson, Robin Reid, Anthony Mundine and Byron Mitchell on his resume. I really don't see what makes Calzaghe so much better at 168 than Sven Ottke, I really don't... I tend to agree. Will someone explain this please?

With Calzaghe its never really been the quality of his wins, rather its been the number of title defences (like Hopkins at mw). That's doesn't really count. I mean, with enough home-support you can make many tittle defenses. You need to fight someone live at least a couple times! His one good win was Hopkins. Kessler got smashed the first time he went out facing a good.... prospect. Hopkins will go on to get smached by Haye but his win over Pavlik was a good thing for Calzaghe.

Eubank also have a better resume at 168 than Calzaghe Michael Watson Nigel Benn Thulani Malinga Graciano Rochigiani With Calzaghe its never really been the quality of his wins, rather its been the number of title defences (like Hopkins at mw).

Nigel Benn's best wins at 168: Gerald McClellan(beat RJJ in the amatuers) Iran Barkley(beat Hearns x2) Doug Dewitt Thulani Malinga Joe Calzaghe's best wins at 168: Mikkell Kessler(who got beat up way worse by Andre Ward) Jeff Lacy(a hyped up c level fighter who never beat anybody of note) Chris Eubank(past prime and weightdrained, was preparing for a fight at light heavy) Sakio Bika Their resumes are very close but I give Nigel Benn the edge because he took on alot tougher challenges. He also fought a draw with a prime Eubank. Good post, I think Benn should of got the nod for the second Eubank fight. I think even Eubanks admits that as well Not sure how much credit Calzaghe should get for the Eubank fight.

I agree. Atleast Nigel Benn had the guts to go to america and take on some real challenges. Nigel Benn's win over Gerald McClellan is better than any of Calzaghes wins. That was better than Calzaghe's wins. I agree. But Benn can't be rated higher because one of his wins was better than Calzaghes.

Nigel Benn > Calzaghe Benn is one of my favourite boxers, but I think Calzaghe has achieved more than him at smw.In terms of best wins that may be a different story.

what is a atg status? please inform me The respect that Ali, Henry Armstrong, SRR and those has gotten through time.

Calzaghe ain't a ATG, at all. But a good and stabile fighter at SMW, no doubt. Great speed, durability and technique. I'd rate him high, but nowhere near ATG status.

Nigel Benn > Calzaghe

Let's see your top 10 SMW's Valero.

Are you from another planet? Cherry picking? Who challenged Joe at SMW? Who was the great competetion he didn't fight at SMW?

Nope, not even in the top 10. Frank Warren and Team Calzaghe cherry picked Joe's opponents and were afraid to match him against proven champions who were in their prime. Congrats to Joe for beating a long list of bums, tomato cans, and washed-up old men. Joseph Cowardzaghe, the Fraud from Wales was scared into retirement by Dawson, Abraham, Pavlik, and Williams, and now that Andre Ward exposed Kessler we can be sure he'll never set foot in the ring again. What fighters do you think he ducked at smw?

Nope, not even in the top 10. Frank Warren and Team Calzaghe cherry picked Joe's opponents and were afraid to match him against proven champions who were in their prime. Congrats to Joe for beating a long list of bums, tomato cans, and washed-up old men. Joseph Cowardzaghe, the Coward from Wales was scared into retirement by Dawson, Abraham, Pavlik, and Williams, and now that Andre Ward exposed Kessler we can be sure he'll never set foot in the ring again. :rofl: Please tell us who you think the top 10 SMW's are.

Nope, not even in the top 10. Frank Warren and Team Calzaghe cherry picked Joe's opponents and were afraid to match him against proven champions who were in their prime. Congrats to Joe for beating a long list of bums, tomato cans, and washed-up old men. Joseph Cowardzaghe, the Fraud from Wales was scared into retirement by Dawson, Abraham, Pavlik, and Williams, and now that Andre Ward exposed Kessler we can be sure he'll never set foot in the ring again.

probably yes

Yes he is. There aren't many great SMW's out there.