Heart and Pride - Miguel Cotto

wow.. ts shared a great vid and trolls started dwelling here :pat:

Why don't you throw him a kiss while your at it :luvbed: I just said "Good night," maybe instead of typing so much crap in here, you should check your vision or maybe learn how to read. Your friend was complaining about name calling, and you resort to that tactic, like I said you guys are only 19, what can people expect?

I have no problem with Cotto. Matter fact I love his mature and humble personality. What i don't like are delusional fans like you who try and give an excuse for everything.. You just can't accept simple facts like a quit or two or that the guy is overrated. The quits were excusable anyway but you the dickriding fans make it worse by retaliating at every critic towards Cotto. He is not a quitter did he lose to both fighters yes. But he's far from a quitter example torres fight and the clottey fight and he didn't quit during the pac fight. I don't know if margs hands were loaded i personaly don't believe it but damn a f'n guy goes out for battle and he takes a knee for his f'n safety and his kids and he's quiting lol well i guess ben rothelisberger is a quitter because he didn't go back out for ot against the chiefs last sunday. Their is a thin line between bravery and stupidity. Dude seriously the shots he was taking he could have been killed that night. This macho shit has to fregin stop i mean the guy has been in many wars. i'm a huge cotto fan i'm not a delusional fan he lost fair and square just leave it at that please why kick a man while he's down.

So this thread went from being a Cotto Highlight vid thread into a Cotto bashing(he's a quitter,sucks,knee taking eyebrow plucking journeyman that should be on the same level as Oscar Larios as far as Pac's wins)thread......only on NSB:nonono:

you don't have to believe me, that's irrelevant. it's nice to see people incredulous about it though, not everyone can get into law school (as it would be your case i presume) notice how both you and the other kid had to resort to insults eventually. you had to call out a guy on a forum and insult me. the other kid is now fighting on the golden gloves and on his way to being the next super heart gatti. you are awesome, i won't even bother with your call outs and mom insults, good night boys :rofl: Don't bother they are 19. What can you do about that? Good night.

Nah lol I think he didn't low-blow Pac because he was afraid Pac was going to punish him 2x harder :rofl: Give it up dude, you have failed, not only tonight, but also yesterday. If you are going to be a professional boxer like you claim, you have to know when to hang up the gloves and accept defeat gracefully. Maybe you can learn something from Cotto in that department. Good night, good luck with your boxing career, and eventhough you are a hater, I wish you well and hope God will bless you when fighting, and I hope that if you are ever in the situation that you need to quit or retreive b/c of the damage that you have acquired, nobody judges you for the decisions that you take at that time, b/c like I said before, you never say never, and you never know when you have to make that decision.

he even tried of justifying that crap he posted on the other thread. now he's just dismissing it :rofl: This guy is like a spider, he is all tangled in his web LOL. He must be dizzy trying to keep the stories accurate, trying to remember all the lies he has typed.

how is that lying?? cotto stans were nowhere to be found in that thread(none of them were posting as far as I know) come up with some better arguments btw. Yesterday you were accusing me of being a future'teller because I said that I knew Cotto was going to get KO's against Margarito after taking the second knee....WHO DIDN:T SEE THAT COMING LOL? Cotto stans were nowhere to be found? Get the **** out of here, you know that is bullshit. I was answering you back, now you say " you went to that thread and post that b/c another Cotto fan told you something," But yet you claim there were no Cotto stans to be found. You are making shit up as you go along to justify your stupidity. Give it up, you continue to dig in the bag and is empty. You ran out of excuses, simple as that. You got busted lying and making shit up, but yet don't have the guts to go with the littlebit of dignity you got left, if any.

I like to think so...at least in this case. Stating your opinion based on facts, is not hating. Lying and making shit up to discredit something is hating... But you just admitted that you went to the other thread and said " that Cotto stans were hiding when the truth was that they made you look childish yesterday. Now who is the liar and the person making shit up? Dude, I suggest you go and regroup, maybe then you can keep the stories straight.

no, that would be being delusional so if you're saying the truth, you're automatically not hating? that's an interesting theory LOL. They keep digging but the bag is empty. What can you do?

I said I didn;t apologize for being a hater genius... I apologized for being too harsh and critical on Cotto When you come in here and apologize for something, hate or if you want to call it critical, and you go back and start talking smack, it makes you look childish. If you was critical, without the hate, I would give you credit for your point of view. But that is not what you did, you was hating and do not have the balls to admit it. You said you are a boxer and will never quit, well you have to have balls for that. I advise you start growing a pair of those for your boxing career.:boxing:

I typed that because as soon as I apologized for taking Cotto's quit too far, about two hours later jazluvr449 sends me another insulting homophobic message. What kind of immature shite is that? I thought you said you did not apologize?

was this before of after he apologize for being a hater? i just wanna laugh a bit This was after, actually today. That is why I called him out and called him a fake. He comes in here and apologizes, then he goes to another thread and type that shit. Can you believe that? LOL.

Great video. Really like Cotto, he's one of the good guys in the sport. I would say he's more of a boxer, that is, an exponent of the 'sweet science' than a warrior or a fighter which aren't really words to describe him. A very talented boxer however.

Great video, cotto could of being one of the best in boxign ever, but margarito messed his career up. I hope to see Marg fight again so he can get his ass beat again. Cotto will be back but he will never be the same unless he changes his trainer and changes the way he gains weight during the off time.

quit against a scumbag proven cheater that got banned...fukin coward gotta load his gloves against a smaller guy, (shane) and there is absolultly no shame in losing to manny... Street, you gotta be the biggest cotto hater on the dam forum. And yeah, he beat your boy cottey with 1 dam eye...hahahahaha! yep, 1 eye....lol

Exactly. Questioning if I ever boxed before, then bitching out. Straight up bitch move, just stfu and watch who you call out. Yes I am a proud comedian in my block and I am the Zelenoff of NY. Whatever. And I asked for a friendly sparring match, not a fight. And trust me, you wouldn't even notice i am handicapped lol. I'll move along but don't be calling me out or questioning if i have ever boxed because I back down from no challenge, internet or not idc, I box anybody, any size. Woot woot for the E-Thugs like Kevin Jesus. Yeah whatever. Lol no one called you out. Even if you do box.. Who cares.. You are not the fighter Cotto is to be talking shit when you haven't proved nothing. Respect.. If you box, you should know this.

Hello no.. I have madddd love PuertoRicans.. My first trainer was Puerto Rican matter fact and the gym which I first started in Morris Park Boxing Club was full of cool PR peeps....I learned how to box with PuertoRicans.. They showed me love and comfort when I first joined up tought me how to be courageous. My current style is made up of things that I've observed from a couple of PR dudes as well. I don't hate PuertoRicans brother man. No way in the world. Do I hate some online fanboys who happen to be Prican? Yes but that does't mean I have something against Puerto ricans. Man...I believe me when I say I have strong beliefs about quitting. Even when I was young kid and I would get punished by older guys in sparring, I would try with all my might not to get KO'd and make it to the third or 4th round (that's how many rounds we usually spared) I know it was just sparring, but imagine a little kid getting his eye sockets and jaw battered and still wanting to keep going. We're not talking about a Pro who gets paid to fight here, we're talking about a kid who was ashamed to take a knee or to ask his trainer to stop the fight because he was embarrassed how he would look among the people that were watching in the gym. Sparing is contradictory, it is like comparing apples with oranges. Like I said, you never say never b/c you do not know what awaits for you down the road. I am not a boxer, but I am somewhat sure that when a boxer fights, he does not go in there with the mentality that he is going to quit, which by the way, I do not feel Cotto quit, but I will go with you that he did, just for argument sake. Also, I just saw your post in another thread where you claimed the following: "lol at Cotto getting all this criticism btw. You don't see Cotto stans saying anytihng now, they're hiding in their little corners. Yesterday when I was posting in the "Heart and Pride Cotto" thread I was being called a hater. When was the Cotto stans hiding in the corners? If I recall correctly, the Cotto stans where making you look kind of childish yesterday. You see, when you go to other threads to claim lies, your credibility goes down the toilet. As for you being from Morris Park, I know Morris Park, I saw a lot of kids get there ass kicked in Loretto Park.

Ya know in every post you make you dissrespect not only Cotto, but us fans. By your standards, are we not allowed to hype our fav boxer before a fight? And you obviously didn't read any of my posts where i have always accepted Cotto's defeat to Manny graciously. I think you just an asshole trolling the forum. You don't like Cotto, and i have seen too many Cotto haters trying not to be obvious about it. I call them closet haters. I had to talk one guy here into admitting he hates Cotto. He finally did after a few posts. You are a closet hater. You are trying to make Cotto fans look like we are all sore losers. If you don't like what you read here then don't read it. If it bothers you that much, maybe you shouldn't be joining a boxing forum. You come into this forum with your holier than though attitude that us Cotto fans make excuses and think too much of him. We will continue to be loyal fans of his wether you like it or not. And if this bothers you...too fukin bad. Earleir you say..."You guys have a bad habit of hyping your fighters up though, and when they lose you still can't accept that they weren't what you made him out to be." You are lumping us all into your neat little category so it's easier for you to diss us fans. Who the fuk do you know who accepted the loss and who didn't? You are a real asshole for coming here and telling us who accepted it and who didn't. This alone shows what a phony you are. you don't know what the fuk you're talking about. You're just trying to get us going and every post that contains the word "quitter" proves that. You are probably a kid that has been watching boxing for about as long as Cotto has been a pro fighter, if that long. The fact that you are focusing your attitude at us fans and trying to make us look foolish says volumes about your motive, which is to disscredit Cotto by calling him Quitto, and saying us fans can't accept the win like we are all one person. I think you're reality check bounced awhile back there buddy boy. Good God, where do these people come from? You see in my sig Cotto's record. Pretty dam good one. And he's still young. And he had the balls to take on fighters that nobody else would. I would go on, but I get the feeling that this guy has very selective vision and sees what he wants to see. You can't debate sensibly with someone that has that mindset, so I'm setting you free to prance the forums, spewing your bullshit and hatred...however you wish to disguise it. Good luck with that. People here are smarter than you are giving them credit for. Later, hater. :cool2: ^^^ Real Cotto fan and respectable boxing fan. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

I'm not a *****. I'll prove you otherwise, just step up to the plate sonny. You keep talking about E-warriros this internet talk that, but so far the one getting all heated in a simple debate is you. Cursing doesn't exactly make you the bigger man. BAck your words up or stfu. I am not going to fight anyone who is claiming they are handicapped or who is requesting a fight online. You crack me up kid. You saying that I'm taking this serious and calling me a E-warrior? Lol I think you really are a comedian.. THis shit is hilarious. I can say what I want. I am not getting heated, but I am annoyed. Everyone especially you is questioning a fighters heart and pride, when you have done nothing! Stick to being a fun. I curse when I speak so that's what I write, so if you have a problem with it.. Don't quote my posts. Cry me a river. Also.. Stop asking people for sparring matches online.. It's sad.. If my sparring doesn't consist of me fighting and training for a AM bout, GG, or Metros, etc, then its not worth it. You want to prove something to Boxingscene? What are you? Zelenoff of NY? You want to prove something, then stop questioning a profighters heart, and try to see if you have one. Move along.