"You don't win fights by being defensive..." - Roger Mayweather

"Without offense you can't win the fight." - Floyd Mayweather wow, times have changed haven't they....

damn, roger had all his teeth back then, or was he wearing dentures. Efren "Bata" Reyes KO Roger Mayweather... http://www.carlopool.com/images/Pros/Reyes_no_eyes_no_teeth.jpg http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/485/Roger-Mayweather1.jpg

Mayweather isn't as defensive as people think. He's simply not a counter-puncher by standard definition. He's a counter-puncher, but he waits for the breaks, he doesn't punch in between the combinations. When they see a guy with a side posture, they assume they can attack and get things done that way. With Mayweather, his defense is so tight that is rarely works. When De La Hoya, for example, had success, it wasn't because of that forced aggression that he won those early rounds. It was because of the jab he imployed. Think of it this way.. A jab offsets your ability to counter if thrown enough. Why would a jab work against Mayweather? Because he counters, or potshots with punches in between the other guys work. But he doesn't counter the way most fighters do, with shots in between the flurries. He waits and makes people miss and in between the time they throw the last punch and the time they reposition themselves. It still counts as a form of a counter, when you factor in that he counteracts what the other person is doing, while they work. He's fast and smart enough to do that. The reason I bring this up is because as he moved up, he had to be more careful. He had to make sure that he didn't get tagged or beaten up by naturally bigger men. But, he still wasn't and isn't as defensive as people make him out to be. He's just so good at what he does, that it's more of the same, SOMETIMES. That's actually not his fault. You can always argue that he should then fight bigger threats and to an extent, you're right. However, De La Hoya was a threat at the time. Corrales was the favorite. Castillo was a big threat, twice. It was still the same with all of them. He takes his time, he waits for opponents and he counters. It's a lot less about defense than most think, though his defense is incredible. The way to beat Mayweather is with three things. Decent power/speed/accuracy. I count it as one, because it's all about how you're able to punch. A stiff jab that you will be willing to double and triple. And finally, the ability to take a punch and take it for the entire 12 rounds. Keep coming forward, IN A SMART WAY, and you can get the job done. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331240 thats why i think mosley and cotto could beat Money May

good old times, bring back good memories. he was so fun to watch before, pure student of the sport.

Mayweather isn't as defensive as people think. He's simply not a counter-puncher by standard definition. He's a counter-puncher, but he waits for the breaks, he doesn't punch in between the combinations. When they see a guy with a side posture, they assume they can attack and get things done that way. With Mayweather, his defense is so tight that is rarely works. When De La Hoya, for example, had success, it wasn't because of that forced aggression that he won those early rounds. It was because of the jab he imployed. Think of it this way.. A jab offsets your ability to counter if thrown enough. Why would a jab work against Mayweather? Because he counters, or potshots with punches in between the other guys work. But he doesn't counter the way most fighters do, with shots in between the flurries. He waits and makes people miss and in between the time they throw the last punch and the time they reposition themselves. It still counts as a form of a counter, when you factor in that he counteracts what the other person is doing, while they work. He's fast and smart enough to do that. The reason I bring this up is because as he moved up, he had to be more careful. He had to make sure that he didn't get tagged or beaten up by naturally bigger men. But, he still wasn't and isn't as defensive as people make him out to be. He's just so good at what he does, that it's more of the same, SOMETIMES. That's actually not his fault. You can always argue that he should then fight bigger threats and to an extent, you're right. However, De La Hoya was a threat at the time. Corrales was the favorite. Castillo was a big threat, twice. It was still the same with all of them. He takes his time, he waits for opponents and he counters. It's a lot less about defense than most think, though his defense is incredible. The way to beat Mayweather is with three things. Decent power/speed/accuracy. I count it as one, because it's all about how you're able to punch. A stiff jab that you will be willing to double and triple. And finally, the ability to take a punch and take it for the entire 12 rounds. Keep coming forward, IN A SMART WAY, and you can get the job done.

Roger usually knows his boxing history apparently, but I have no clue where he came up with Ali having such a high knockout percentage.

Christ, Floyd Sr has aged terribly...

i miss the old floyd :(

Hahahahaha!!!! Duhhhh, name someone on the elite level who's aggressive and not easy to hit. Mayweather aggressive is different to say Froch aggressive. You know what i meant.

It was more interesting to watch but at the same time you could see it didn't work as well for him. Floyd as a defensive fighter is insanely hard to beat, but when he's aggressive he is much easier to hit. Hahahahaha!!!! Duhhhh, name someone on the elite level who's aggressive and not easy to hit.

It was more interesting to watch but at the same time you could see it didn't work as well for him. Floyd as a defensive fighter is insanely hard to beat, but when he's aggressive he is much easier to hit.

Mayweather started so young he had to be defensive at one point in his career as he moves up, That way he could preserve himself and last longer in the sport, I liked it when he was offensive minded in fights like the Genaro hernandez one, Jesus Chavez, Carlos famoso Hernandez, Emmanuel augustus, Philip Ndou. Angel manfredy, Carlos gerena etc But i dont want a fighter to take too much damage like Cotto did in just two fights with Margarito/Pacquiao. But it would be nice if he can mix it up like Mosley does and alway go for the KO if you can..

You can't deny Floyd's evolution as a defensive fighter is responsible for where he is, but against a guy like Pac or Mosley he will need to throw punches. If he thinks he can out run them only throwing 30 punches a round for 12 rounds he will be outworked.

Yes i remember back in the time when PBF was fighting nobodies and knocking them out.

R.I.P Diego, Alex Ariza sighting wow he still looks the same

damn, roger had all his teeth back then, or was he wearing dentures. It looks like he's been doin crack the past 10 years, he actually looked kinda normal (for him) in that video.

Fighter of the year in 98!! Ten years ago! And he still on top, haters how can you hate on this?

Well, he wins fights now by throwing one punch every 30 seconds and by being defensive.

being aggressive against bums, who has'nt done that? i give'em the castillo fight tho