Show me your scorecard. Round by round with commentary.
Or better yet name the scoring categories in order of importance for professional boxing. Also please explain to me how hitting the shoulders, arms, elbows, gloves and the back of the head count as scoring punches.
Thanks!
another retarded thread from a bad poster
this has been done so many times,a lot of people thought castillo should have got the decision,he didnt,END OF!
Yeah okay coming from "British fan" i'll take that as a compliment. Where is your scorecard?
Or are you too afraid to back up anything you say?
This is what the TS was looking for I believe. A well documented argument and not just ''OMGs everybody knows Castillo got robbed''. I had it very similar to this scorecard except round 3 and 12 I lean towards Floyd, giving Floyd a close win. Round 3 is a tough one, I think I gave it to Castillo first time I scored it out of the 'swing round' mentality. If you extract it on it's own it was probably just about another Floyd round though.
Yes I can respect this response. I don't agree but at least it's justified and backed up with substance.
another retarded thread from a bad poster
this has been done so many times,a lot of people thought castillo should have got the decision,he didnt,END OF!
Show me your scorecard. Round by round with commentary.
Or better yet name the scoring categories in order of importance for professional boxing. Also please explain to me how hitting the shoulders, arms, elbows, gloves and the back of the head count as scoring punches.
Thanks!
Lets see your scorecard first.
I think Floyd showed heart. He said he was hurt and that would explain some things. Many fighters have been given gift decisions before, shyt happens. He came back and beat Castillo "healthy". The most important thing is whether he lost a razor thin decision while hurt or not, the man still has an -0-, and that can't be changed. Everyone knows Pea outclassed Chavez, but no matter how much we go back and forth, it's still a draw in the recordbooks, bullshyt or not.
Whitaker did beat chavez hands down and it solidified my opinion that the greatest Mexican fighter was Salvador Sanchez. Chavez beat a few great fighters while Sanchez in a short time beat guys like Laporte, Gomez, a young Azumah Nelson, and Danny little red Lopez all legendary fighters. Sanchez died at 23 and was already 44-1-1 too bad the fight with him and Arguello never happened. Pancho Villa also died at 23.
I said it before i thought PBF did win the fight, and in ROund 2 he KD Castillo with a hook but it was considered a slip. It could have been scored a flash KD. I have seen worse calls being called a KD, remember the phantom punch of Barreras that was a considered a KD in the first Pac fight?
I saw the fight on youtube again today.
I scored it 113 - 114.
Round 1 - To Mayweather________M 10 / 9 C
Round 2 - To Mayweather________M 20 / 18 C
Round 3 - To Castillo____________M 29 / 28 C
Round 4 - To Mayweather________M 39 / 37 C
Round 5 - To Mayweather________M 49 / 46 C
Round 6 - To Castillo____________M 58 / 56 C
Round 7 - To Castillo____________M 67 / 66 C
Round 8 - To Castillo
(-1 Castillo) 9/9 Round_________M 76 / 75 C
Round 9 - To Castillo____________M 85 / 85 C
Round 10 - To Mayweather
(-1 Mayweather) 9/9 Round____M 94 / 94 C
Round 11 - To Castillo___________M 103 / 104 C
Round 12 - Draw 10/10 Round____M 113 / 114 C
Castillo wins by 1 point. He was the predominant aggressor. Where Floyd tends to make fighters humble themselves and fight his fight most of the time, this fight showed us the "Anti-Floyd". In this fight it was Floyd who was forced to fight someone else's fight. Very entertaining at times. Interesting at other times. A good fight for both fighters, but I believe Castillo inched this one out due to effective aggressiveness in the later rounds and constant pressure throughout.
This is what the TS was looking for I believe. A well documented argument and not just ''OMGs everybody knows Castillo got robbed''. I had it very similar to this scorecard except round 3 and 12 I lean towards Floyd, giving Floyd a close win. Round 3 is a tough one, I think I gave it to Castillo first time I scored it out of the 'swing round' mentality. If you extract it on it's own it was probably just about another Floyd round though.
I think Floyd showed heart. He said he was hurt and that would explain some things. Many fighters have been given gift decisions before, shyt happens. He came back and beat Castillo "healthy". The most important thing is whether he lost a razor thin decision while hurt or not, the man still has an -0-, and that can't be changed. Everyone knows Pea outclassed Chavez, but no matter how much we go back and forth, it's still a draw in the recordbooks, bullshyt or not.
lol, bsrizpac (TS) is a well known Floyd nuthugger and has a unhealthy obsession with Calzaghe
Is that who it is? bsrizpac?
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I saw the fight on youtube again today.
I scored it 113 - 114.
Round 1 - To Mayweather________M 10 / 9 C
Round 2 - To Mayweather________M 20 / 18 C
Round 3 - To Castillo____________M 29 / 28 C
Round 4 - To Mayweather________M 39 / 37 C
Round 5 - To Mayweather________M 49 / 46 C
Round 6 - To Castillo____________M 58 / 56 C
Round 7 - To Castillo____________M 67 / 66 C
Round 8 - To Castillo
(-1 Castillo) 9/9 Round_________M 76 / 75 C
Round 9 - To Castillo____________M 85 / 85 C
Round 10 - To Mayweather
(-1 Mayweather) 9/9 Round____M 94 / 94 C
Round 11 - To Castillo___________M 103 / 104 C
Round 12 - Draw 10/10 Round____M 113 / 114 C
Castillo wins by 1 point. He was the predominant aggressor. Where Floyd tends to make fighters humble themselves and fight his fight most of the time, this fight showed us the "Anti-Floyd". In this fight it was Floyd who was forced to fight someone else's fight. Very entertaining at times. Interesting at other times. A good fight for both fighters, but I believe Castillo inched this one out due to effective aggressiveness in the later rounds and constant pressure throughout.
Finally, a real man.
I saw the fight on youtube again today.
I scored it 113 - 114.
Round 1 - To Mayweather________M 10 / 9 C
Round 2 - To Mayweather________M 20 / 18 C
Round 3 - To Castillo____________M 29 / 28 C
Round 4 - To Mayweather________M 39 / 37 C
Round 5 - To Mayweather________M 49 / 46 C
Round 6 - To Castillo____________M 58 / 56 C
Round 7 - To Castillo____________M 67 / 66 C
Round 8 - To Castillo
(-1 Castillo) 9/9 Round_________M 76 / 75 C
Round 9 - To Castillo____________M 85 / 85 C
Round 10 - To Mayweather
(-1 Mayweather) 9/9 Round____M 94 / 94 C
Round 11 - To Castillo___________M 103 / 104 C
Round 12 - Draw 10/10 Round____M 113 / 114 C
Castillo wins by 1 point. He was the predominant aggressor. Where Floyd tends to make fighters humble themselves and fight his fight most of the time, this fight showed us the "Anti-Floyd". In this fight it was Floyd who was forced to fight someone else's fight. Very entertaining at times. Interesting at other times. A good fight for both fighters, but I believe Castillo inched this one out due to effective aggressiveness in the later rounds and constant pressure throughout.
I remember castillo saying he felt he started slow and lost the first 4 rounds also take the point away from castillo i think it was rd 8 and he's already down 5 pts. You do the math castillo win every round after that? Im a big castillo fan but i though floyd barely won
lol, bsrizpac (TS) is a well known Floyd nuthugger and has a unhealthy obsession with Calzaghe
What does Calzaghe have to do with this thread half-wit?
This fight is ancient history. At first, i thought Castillo won. But when I saw it again my opinion changed. I thought Floyd landed the cleaner punches and showed ring generalship. In addition, there was an early round which Floyd knocked down Castillo and it wasent counted as a knockdown. Also i don't care too much about HBO's punchstat numbers as it often counts ineffective blows. It is very subjective. I mean DLH landed like 90 more punches than Trinidad and I still had it a draw like Letterman. Also Harold Letterman scoring is bonkers at times. He actually had John John Molina beating DLH LOL.
Hmmm... Judges are ringside too. In that case: scorecards = B.S.
Flod lost - 'opinion'
Floyd won officially? bullshit! - 'opinion'
For the most part, judges watch a fight more completely than the commentators. Commentators will go off into little soliloquies and storytellling..or talking about other upcoming fights. Or what they had for dinner last week. Judges are about their business.
Plus, I believe Judges have a different side of the ring than the commentators.
I know in the Amateurs, we have the judges spread around, so each can see a different angle.
usually when you land more then double on an opponent then what they landed on you.. u win the fight.
Key word being usually.
If you win seven rounds in a fight, seven rounds that are relatively even. Then lose the last 5 rounds clear cut you'd probably have lower punch stats because you throw less in the earlier rounds, you will probably look like the loser of the fight.
But you will win because of the mechanics of the game.
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