What does Ward's win over Kessler say about Calzaghe?

Obviously Pavlik is the better than Hopkins because he beat the fighter that beat Hopkins. Triangular logic is the ONLY logic. THIS IS NSB! And Jermain Taylor is actually a better fighter than Kelly Pavlik because he beat the guy that Kelly Pavlik couldn't.

Its amazing where all the haters come out from, I knew this would happen, you've no idea how much I wanted Kessler to win last night to avoid this pish. I'll put this to the OP - Taylor beat Hopkins twice by decision, but lost twice to Pavlik by TKO and decision, then Hopkins schools Pavlik by decision, so using your logic who is better? Obviously Pavlik is the better than Hopkins because he beat the fighter that beat Hopkins. Triangular logic is the ONLY logic. THIS IS NSB!

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You don't really understand Irony or Sarcasm do you... there is too much of that shite on this board, instead of in depth serious discussions. All we get is Mayweather, Cotto, Pacquiao and most recently Calzaghe get his career ripped asunder by keyboard warriors who will never win a national title never mind a world title.

this is the most bullshit ive heard on this site how the ****? You don't really understand Irony or Sarcasm do you...

calzaghe couldn't handle sakio bika come on now. he's gonna beat ward? don't be a silly fanboy. Jose Rivera 117-110 | judge: John Lawson 117-110 | judge: Phil Edwards 116-111 all in favour of the guy you love to hate.

Everything. EVERYTHING. It says EVERYTHING! Because triangular logic is the ONLY way of determining who is the better fighter. Who is better, Foreman or Ali? Well Ali got beat by Frazier who got destroyed by Foreman so FOREMAN is the BEST! Who's better out of Hearns and Duran? Well Duran beat Leonard who beat Hagler who blasted out Hearns in three rounds so DURAN is better! Who is better out of Vitali Klitschko and Hasim Rahman? Obviously as Rahman knocked out Lewis while Lewis stopped Klitschko then Rahman is the better fighter. It's the ONLY logic that counts. The ONLY logic. this is the most bullshit ive heard on this site how the ****?

Its amazing where all the haters come out from, I knew this would happen, you've no idea how much I wanted Kessler to win last night to avoid this pish. I'll put this to the OP - Taylor beat Hopkins twice by decision, but lost twice to Pavlik by TKO and decision, then Hopkins schools Pavlik by decision, so using your logic who is better?

Everything. EVERYTHING. It says EVERYTHING! Because triangular logic is the ONLY way of determining who is the better fighter. Who is better, Foreman or Ali? Well Ali got beat by Frazier who got destroyed by Foreman so FOREMAN is the BEST! Who's better out of Hearns and Duran? Well Duran beat Leonard who beat Hagler who blasted out Hearns in three rounds so DURAN is better! Who is better out of Vitali Klitschko and Hasim Rahman? Obviously as Rahman knocked out Lewis while Lewis stopped Klitschko then Rahman is the better fighter. It's the ONLY logic that counts. The ONLY logic. although i see ur point, that doesnt apply in this instance.... if kessler would have beaten ward, the triangular theory would cause u to assume that calzaghe is better than ward... but that didnt happen... so that theory us void... for instance Taylor>Hopkins + Pavlik>Taylor Should = Pavlik> Hopkins {theoretically}

It lessons his win over Kessler. That said, I still don't see anyone in the tourney that Calzaghe couldn't beat. Maybe Ward in another year or so but who knows? Calzaghe's resume is what it is. A fine HOF career. Now that his fans have stopped (somewhat) waxing poetic, I'm actually starting to miss the guy.

It wasn't close, it was ugly. Not close. Exactly. Close? No f*cking chance! :lol1: Funny shit. Anyone who says this is just saying it for the hell of it, though. Bika tried every dirty trick in the book, that's why it was an awkward fight. Calzaghe had never even been cut up until that point in his career. Meh. Who cares anyway. Dude is retired, I'd still favor him over anyone in the Super Six, I'm still a fan, and I still like Kessler. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

bika-calzaghe was a very close fight. do you believe all scorecards? are you that ignorant? probably yea you don't like playing the resume game cause you always lose. It wasn't close, it was ugly. Not close.

As much as Calzaghe is annoying and comes across ignorant, anyone who disses his boxing ability is a hater. The man can fight, he has seriously good speed, good jab, he looks very awkward and sometimes he's not so great on the eye, but he gets the job done. The Kessler he fought was an absolute beast. That's not to say yesterdays Kessler sucked or wasn't the same, nobody really knows. Overhyping fighters comes from media and fight fans who don't know shit, not from proper boxing experts and fans who have watched the sport for a long time. Most boxing experts had him down as P4P #2, surely you not gonna discredit that? And whether you think he won or lost to Hopkins, the fight was VERY VERY close.....the fact the fight was that close should show the man can fight.....look what Hopkins did to Pavlik, Trinidad and guys liike that in comparison to how much he struggled with Calzaghe. No need to diss the mans credential, he was a great fighter.

Sakio Bika who he beat by a wide points margin? This has been round and round the merry go round, but Bernard Hopkins' middleweight? Seriously? Morrade Hakkar? Howard Eastman? Carl Daniels? Robert Allen? Robert Allen THREE TIMES!? I don't like playing the resume game, I really don't, but when someone comes out with something as obviously stupid as this I just have to. The fact that some of the no-marks that Hopkins has beaten in his Middleweight tenure were top ten is testament to the weakness of the division at the time, not the strength of Hopkins' championship. bika-calzaghe was a very close fight. do you believe all scorecards? are you that ignorant? probably yea you don't like playing the resume game cause you always lose.

Imo it showed that Calzage's win over Kessler isn't as big as we thought it was. The guy fought straight up like a bum last night. I guess he was over hyped like Lacey.

calzaghe couldn't handle sakio bika come on now. he's gonna beat ward? don't be a silly fanboy. Sakio Bika who he beat by a wide points margin? well hopkins fought at middleweight which was a much better division. This has been round and round the merry go round, but Bernard Hopkins' middleweight? Seriously? Morrade Hakkar? Howard Eastman? Carl Daniels? Robert Allen? Robert Allen THREE TIMES!? I don't like playing the resume game, I really don't, but when someone comes out with something as obviously stupid as this I just have to. The fact that some of the no-marks that Hopkins has beaten in his Middleweight tenure were top ten is testament to the weakness of the division at the time, not the strength of Hopkins' championship.

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calzaghe couldn't handle sakio bika come on now. he's gonna beat ward? don't be a silly fanboy. Scores of 117-110 / 117-110 / 116-111 disagree with you, daggum. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Everything. EVERYTHING. It says EVERYTHING! Because triangular logic is the ONLY way of determining who is the better fighter. Who is better, Foreman or Ali? Well Ali got beat by Frazier who got destroyed by Foreman so FOREMAN is the BEST! Who's better out of Hearns and Duran? Well Duran beat Leonard who beat Hagler who blasted out Hearns in three rounds so DURAN is better! Who is better out of Vitali Klitschko and Hasim Rahman? Obviously as Rahman knocked out Lewis while Lewis stopped Klitschko then Rahman is the better fighter. It's the ONLY logic that counts. The ONLY logic. ye and pavlik is a better fighter than hopkins right as been as he beat taylor, who beat hopkins lets forget the actual fights shall we, lets forget that duran was starched himself by hearns, lost two out of three with leonard and lost to hagler... his still better than all three right ? :smashfrea

TAKEN FROM ANOTHER THREAD: posted by me "No absolutely not. A lot of posters here hate Calzaghe to begin with so any chance they get, they will hate on him. When Jones beat Hopkins back in the day but Jones later lost to Glen Johnson, did that somehow tarnish Hopkins' record or accomplishments? Did Margarito's loss to Mosley tarnish Cotto's legacy too? The logic of some people makes no sense at times, even if you try to make it logical. Kessler looked flabby and slow last night, I have never seen him that bad for some reason. Ward looked great but Kessler made it all that much easier by not engaging or doing anything at all. Kessler has utilized shoulder rolling and excellent balance in the past to destroy people but last night, he was stumbling all over the place and looked like a different guy. I tell you, these people that hate on Joe should consider themselves lucky that he retired and is not a member of this tourny. Old Calslappy would be proving to ya'll once again why he has an undefeated record by cruising through this thing putting L's on the records of all the guys in it."