Floyd's Speed, Defense, and Awearness Will Shock Pac!!!

Floyd aint harder puncher than cotto, not even close. floyd aint hurting pac, thats for sure, all of floyd's opponent cant chase him, pac definitely will,pac has faster feet than mayweather....hatton was the same at the mayweather fight also, but it took him 10 rounds and he had hell earlier... pac is smaller than cotto.but he fought cotto and killed him. floyd is as big as cotto, but he bitched around and retired.. that cotto is the same with cotto who beated CLottey one eyed.and even greater coz he had an extra month.still pac killed him with one leg and has no respect to his power.. and with ODLH, yeah.hes damn dead that night.but no one can beat him that night the way pac beated him that night...no flaws, awesome footwork and angles.. and whats more about that fight?? that was a major UPSET!!

Good post, Jose. Here's my two cents: Some of Mayweather’s detractors need to start looking at him more objectively. I’m not a fan of his, but you have to give credit where credit is due. The same goes for Pacquiao’s detractors. These men are two of boxing’s biggest names for a reason, and they’re going to possibly set a PPV record when their fight is finally over. If you never saw PBF before, and someone sat you down for 4 or 5 of his best fights, you would have to be impressed with his boxing ability. But the guy isn’t unbeatable, nobody is. Floyd, for all his vaunted defensive skill, gets hit just like everybody else. He’s taken clean punches from virtually every one of his opponents. Many will argue with some validity that he was beaten by Jose Luis Castillo in their first fight. Pacquiao is a force of nature; he’s able to deliver powerful shots from weird, contorted angles, even off his feet! He will get hit with hard shots by Manny. Whether those shots do enough damage remains to be seen. On the other hand, Pacquiao has never fought anyone like Floyd before. That’s mainly because there isn’t anyone as good as Mayweather in that style. PBF will definitely take advantage of Pac’s tendency to open up when attacking. That’s going to happen often. Floyd may not hit as hard as some others, but he doesn’t need to if he connects with enough flush shots. One thing is certain, these are two of the best boxers in, arguably, the best division in boxing. They will test each other and we, as fans, will be wholly entertained. In the end, I think it’ll be a classic. Very well said. :beerchug:

We get it bruh. You think Mayweather will beat Pacquiao. No need to make 10 topics a day about why you think he will. The same idiots did it about Cotto over Pac for 4 months and just ended up looking like assholes who shouldn't even watch boxing.

Pac won't be making the same mistake Gatti and JMM did and that is to stand in front of Floyd trying to outdo him in gunslinging at distance...lol. I remember Gatti with his left arm down trying his best Floyd impersonation with the shoulder roll and the up jab. You can't outdo Floyd in what he does best. Gatti really looked ridiculous with that shit, and for all the exciting fights he's given us, he was never really Elite if we want to be completely honest with ourselves. Now there's Cotto with his fans and team's assertion that he could handle speed because of what he demonstrated against Judah and Mosley. Come on... Pac fights nothing like that. He's more agile on his feet, with lateral and in-and-out, head and body movements. Both Judah and Mosley are more stand offish meaning they're pretty stationary but rely on their hand speed to outpoint or destroy an opponent. They'll show some D in footwork once in a while but it's nothing like Pac's. That's what was wrong with that comparison and logic and I chuckle everytime I hear it when people are defending Cotto chances. Now Zab had success with trying ot out-Floyd Floyd for a few early rounds because of his southpaw stance, fantastic speed and pop but like he always does, he runs out of ideas and out of gas in the mid to later rounds when his opponents have made adjustments. Zab is pretty weak mentally and like Floyd described is a "front runner" meaning he does his best work early on but fades where and when it counts. I'm saying that Pac is in a whole higher level than the likes of Zab who gave Cotto and Floyd problems, that's why I think your analysis completely underestimates Pac's capabilities. That's why Pac's opponents always end up being surprised... well shocked really. Good post, Jose. Here's my two cents: Some of Mayweather’s detractors need to start looking at him more objectively. I’m not a fan of his, but you have to give credit where credit is due. The same goes for Pacquiao’s detractors. These men are two of boxing’s biggest names for a reason, and they’re going to possibly set a PPV record when their fight is finally over. If you never saw PBF before, and someone sat you down for 4 or 5 of his best fights, you would have to be impressed with his boxing ability. But the guy isn’t unbeatable, nobody is. Floyd, for all his vaunted defensive skill, gets hit just like everybody else. He’s taken clean punches from virtually every one of his opponents. Many will argue with some validity that he was beaten by Jose Luis Castillo in their first fight. Pacquiao is a force of nature; he’s able to deliver powerful shots from weird, contorted angles, even off his feet! He will get hit with hard shots by Manny. Whether those shots do enough damage remains to be seen. On the other hand, Pacquiao has never fought anyone like Floyd before. That’s mainly because there isn’t anyone as good as Mayweather in that style. PBF will definitely take advantage of Pac’s tendency to open up when attacking. That’s going to happen often. Floyd may not hit as hard as some others, but he doesn’t need to if he connects with enough flush shots. One thing is certain, these are two of the best boxers in, arguably, the best division in boxing. They will test each other and we, as fans, will be wholly entertained. In the end, I think it’ll be a classic.

Your favorites (in no order): Cotto, ate a lot of halo-halo aKa Manila Ice. Halo-halo is actually pretty good...and it's got milk in it. :beerchug: lol. I was being sarcastic, ho. and intimidating some of the pac boys.

and no smart comments please, I wrote the title that way on purpose. Seriously though, 99% of the time in all of pro sports, defense wins the Title. Everyone think Pac has changed so much since JMM but look at his opponents. Even the most die hard fans have to admit that Oscar was dead. He was a punching bag. Pac didnt really have to do anything except move a little and punch non stop. Hatton? Man I dont know what to say about Hatton. I couldnt beleive that fight. It was so weird. I saw Hatton the whole fight either have his hands totally down or the highest he had them was under his chin. Its like he was using the high guard Defense but the highest he brought them up was to his chest so his head had a big hit me sign on it. Then what made it crazy from the very jump was that Hatton would lunge in to punch and when he stops throwing, he just stood there with his hands down. It was so weired. Its like he expected the ref to pause the fight or for Pac to run backwards or something. Instead Pac immediatly fires back and darn near takes Hatton's head off. Then the 1st knock down comes when Pac is measuring him because he knows what Hatton is about to do and the speed differnce is so much that Pac waited for Hatton to just move his arm a inch like he was about to throw, and Pac threw his own quick hook and beat him to the punch. The whole fight Hatton has his hands down and just gets killed. Then the Cotto fight comes and it was just as weird as Hatton. Just like the other 2 fights, Pac has a crazy speed advantage, and just like the other 2 fights he is facing a horrible defender. Like Shawn Porter said, Cotto is leaning forward with his chin down and he has his guard up but its an open guard. People talk all this stuff about the Pac angles but really all 3 fights were just simple punches mostly. He didnt have to do much. He's just throwing shots right down the pipe, all are splitting Cotto's guard easily, he never moves to get out of the way, and he's just so slow. Its so weird. Its like he's just standing there telling Pac to hit him without even trying to block. Now to the Floyd fight. Its just like what I said at the jump about D winning titles. Its always the same in boxing when you saw a bralwer get owned by a master boxer. I just cant beleive how people dont see that this fight is going to be hell for Pac. His speed & D will win the fight. Pac has been destroying cats since JMM but they are all so slow and have terrible D and dont even let me get started on Diaz. He isnt even worth talkign about. Let Pac throw all those same exact punches against Floyd that he threw in those other fights. Not only do I think Floyd blocks them but he doesnt even have to do anything special to block them. Floyd is always aware and he's not going to get caught slipping. If Pac lunges then with Floyd's speed, its nothing for him to take a step backwards to get out of range. If Floyd fires a shot then there is no way he sits there with his hands down like Hatton to like Pac catch him back. and there is no way in hell that he's going to get hit with those punches straight down the middle that Cotto got hit with. He will just stand there with the high guard, keep it tight together, and block all of them before firing back. Im telling you that Pac is going to find it so hard to hit Floyd and Im not talking about Floyd running. Im just talking about with his normal speed, D, and awareness. Its going to be the complete opposite of what he's been going against. Again, Im not even saying that in a super cocky way or that Floyd is Superman and so great. We all know that Floyd is so fast, so good on D, and so aware but it has more to do with how slow those other 4 guys were, how bad there D was, and how they were so unaware. It made Pac look like he's grown so much from JMM when really JMM is just 10x better than the level those cats are at "right now". They were tailor made for him. I mean, as good as JMM is, he is also average speed, has a horrible D, and bad awareness on the "defensive end". I mean its just going to be a shock to see how easy Floyd takes away Pac's O. Everyone thinks that Floyd doesnt have the power to keep Pac off him. I think thats insane but even if its true, Pac is going to have hell landing on Floyd even when Floyd is there to be hit. Again, I think all that angle stuff is so overrated due to the opponents. He wont hit Floyd with any of that, even when Floyd is not moving I didn't even bother to read the post. I seriously hope team gayweather underestimates pac like you do.

Yeah but all of that talk is still always more about Offense. On D he was horrible. To me it doesnt even matter how hard Pac hits because I just dont see him catching Floyd much and I dont mean chasing him. I mean even when Floyd is right in front of him. I honestly dont think Pac's stuff is hard to stop, espically if he's coming at you. I admit that I said that I think Floyd will try walking him down some but after watching most of his fights, I think its better to either just stand right in front of him or let him come to you because his punches are easy to stop to me at that point. Where he might can catch you is if you try to walk him down and he throws a quick hook or something but even all of that will be hard to do to Floyd if you ask me. I just dont see it. I mean those other guys were so tailor made for him. Its going to look night & day against Floyd Pac won't be making the same mistake Gatti and JMM did and that is to stand in front of Floyd trying to outdo him in gunslinging at distance...lol. I remember Gatti with his left arm down trying his best Floyd impersonation with the shoulder roll and the up jab. You can't outdo Floyd in what he does best. Gatti really looked ridiculous with that shit, and for all the exciting fights he's given us, he was never really Elite if we want to be completely honest with ourselves. Now there's Cotto with his fans and team's assertion that he could handle speed because of what he demonstrated against Judah and Mosley. Come on... Pac fights nothing like that. He's more agile on his feet, with lateral and in-and-out, head and body movements. Both Judah and Mosley are more stand offish meaning they're pretty stationary but rely on their hand speed to outpoint or destroy an opponent. They'll show some D in footwork once in a while but it's nothing like Pac's. That's what was wrong with that comparison and logic and I chuckle everytime I hear it when people are defending Cotto chances. Now Zab had success with trying ot out-Floyd Floyd for a few early rounds because of his southpaw stance, fantastic speed and pop but like he always does, he runs out of ideas and out of gas in the mid to later rounds when his opponents have made adjustments. Zab is pretty weak mentally and like Floyd described is a "front runner" meaning he does his best work early on but fades where and when it counts. I'm saying that Pac is in a whole higher level than the likes of Zab who gave Cotto and Floyd problems, that's why I think your analysis completely underestimates Pac's capabilities. That's why Pac's opponents always end up being surprised... well shocked really.

It wont happen.. Coz floyd needs to SIGN the fight.. LOL Anything can happen in the fight there will be too many analysis. We need to see if floyd will fight Pac. After its done we need to wait for about may or june 2010.

Nah. Pac ate Cotto's punches like a baby sips through milk. Pac will destroy GAYWEATHEHHRHR!!:stupid: Your favorites (in no order): Cotto, ate a lot of halo-halo aKa Manila Ice. Halo-halo is actually pretty good...and it's got milk in it. :beerchug:

Remember what Cotto said to Roach? "I'm not Oscar De la Hoya... I'm no Ricky Hatton." Why? Because he thought Oscar was "dead" and Ricky was overrated. Pac's bigger opponents are always underrating him. De la Hoya saying Pac doesn't hit that hard and Ricky saying he was winning the 2nd round could've contributed to Cotto and his fan's delusions as well. Yeah but all of that talk is still always more about Offense. On D he was horrible. To me it doesnt even matter how hard Pac hits because I just dont see him catching Floyd much and I dont mean chasing him. I mean even when Floyd is right in front of him. I honestly dont think Pac's stuff is hard to stop, espically if he's coming at you. I admit that I said that I think Floyd will try walking him down some but after watching most of his fights, I think its better to either just stand right in front of him or let him come to you because his punches are easy to stop to me at that point. Where he might can catch you is if you try to walk him down and he throws a quick hook or something but even all of that will be hard to do to Floyd if you ask me. I just dont see it. I mean those other guys were so tailor made for him. Its going to look night & day against Floyd

Nah. Pac ate Cotto's punches like a baby sips through milk. Pac will destroy GAYWEATHEHHRHR!!:stupid:

Oscar w/ Freddie Roach was aiiight. Manny w/ Freddie Roach is aiiight too.

Remember what Cotto said to Roach? "I'm not Oscar De la Hoya... I'm no Ricky Hatton." Why? Because he thought Oscar was "dead" and Ricky was overrated. Pac's bigger opponents are always underrating him. De la Hoya saying Pac doesn't hit that hard and Ricky saying he was winning the 2nd round could've contributed to Cotto and his fan's delusions as well.

The taste of Pac's power, speed, footwork, flurries of punches from different angles will make Floyd run around the ring more than usual. This is the reason Floyd Sr. doesn't want his son to fight Pac because he will definitely lose. :)

You're right bro. Good post and I'm glad there's finally some mature dialogue, without the smart a-- comments in reply.