People need to quit hyping up Dawson as the guy to take Calzaghe's 0, which hasn't been done here lately too much and rightfully so. Andre Ward would beat Chad Dawson. And a Calzaghe-Ward fight is up in the air to me. I wasn't impressed with Ward in his fight with Miranda, but even Ward was honest with himself that night and said that he would perform better under a bigger stage. Ward is the truth. Abraham only has a puncher's chance against him, and his ear muff defense might make it hard for Ward to land. But Abraham would be more competitive than Kessler was.
The whole point of this thread though is to give praise to a fighter who deserves it and not a fighter who pitty pats to victories like Chad Dawson does.
Both Chad Dawson and Andre Ward would beat the living hell out of the fraud that is Joe Calzaghe, and thats all I have to say about that.
That's all you have to say about anything. "Calzaghe this, Calzaghe that." :crying:
So the f*ck what? You don't like him... OK. Nobody really cares.
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He never stunned Adamek. And the knockdown of Tarver was due to Tarver being off balance in an awkward way and he was back up before the ref reached two. Dawson's power is average at best. Someone who has power is Cloud. Gonzalez was past it, but he had never been stopped and Cloud put it on him.
I think he may have stunned Adamek momentarily in the fight, but I forget when, possibly the 5th? Even if he didn't, he still had enough power to get a strong chinned fighter's respect.
And regardless of Tarver being off balance, a knockdown is a knockdown.
dont know why I try to have discussions with you you are an idiot. He stunned Adamek, he knocked down Tarver, he put enough hard leather on Johnson to gain his respect Dawson has far more power than Ward.
He never stunned Adamek. And the knockdown of Tarver was due to Tarver being off balance in an awkward way and he was back up before the ref reached two. Dawson's power is average at best. Someone who has power is Cloud. Gonzalez was past it, but he had never been stopped and Cloud put it on him.
I quit taking this post serious after I read that. But to address this opinion, Dawson can't break an egg shell. He couldn't even stop a washed up Eric Harding. I'm not saying he's feather fisted. But he doesn't have stoppage power either and his record reflects that. I know Johnson and Tarver have pretty good chins. But Dawson has only scored stoppages over second rate opponents without even being able to knock them down. He's not that hard of a puncher. Ward isn't either. And even though he's smaller than Chad, he would have the power advantage if they ever fought.
dont know why I try to have discussions with you you are an idiot. He stunned Adamek, he knocked down Tarver, he put enough hard leather on Johnson to gain his respect Dawson has far more power than Ward.
I think you are are pretty much wrong Ice, Dawson is fast hits far harder than Ward and is too experienced. Maybe Andre Ward in a few more years but not right now, no way.
I quit taking this post serious after I read that. But to address this opinion, Dawson can't break an egg shell. He couldn't even stop a washed up Eric Harding. I'm not saying he's feather fisted. But he doesn't have stoppage power either and his record reflects that. I know Johnson and Tarver have pretty good chins. But Dawson has only scored stoppages over second rate opponents without even being able to knock them down. He's not that hard of a puncher. Ward isn't either. And even though he's smaller than Chad, he would have the power advantage if they ever fought.
People need to quit hyping up Dawson as the guy to take Calzaghe's 0, which hasn't been done here lately too much and rightfully so. Andre Ward would beat Chad Dawson. And a Calzaghe-Ward fight is up in the air to me. I wasn't impressed with Ward in his fight with Miranda, but even Ward was honest with himself that night and said that he would perform better under a bigger stage. Ward is the truth. Abraham only has a puncher's chance against him, and his ear muff defense might make it hard for Ward to land. But Abraham would be more competitive than Kessler was.
The whole point of this thread though is to give praise to a fighter who deserves it and not a fighter who pitty pats to victories like Chad Dawson does.
I think you are are pretty much wrong Ice, Dawson is fast hits far harder than Ward and is too experienced. Maybe Andre Ward in a few more years but not right now, no way.
i think chad honestly wins if they fought, but ward is a little more excitin tho cuz he at least engages sometimes and takes some chances. i think dawson vs johnson 1 could have the same effect as mayweather vs castillo 1 had. when mayweather had a tough fight he decided to be more cautious and has fought that way ever since. hope chad dont fight like that now because of that fight
I think Dawson technically is more sound than Ward. Both I believe are really coming in to their own, respectively. I think Dawson recently has honed in his skills a little bit more now. Now Dawson isn't the most exciting fighter to watch, but techinically speaking he is pretty good.
Congrats to Ward beating Kessler, but the fight wasn't pretty at all.
Calzhage fans hate Bad Chad.
Dude, I'll take the time to reply to this even though this guy is banned now. But where in this thread have I said I'm a Calzaghe fan? I don't like Joe at all. :thinking:
both chad dawson and andre ward would beat the living hell out of the fraud that is joe calzaghe, and thats all i have to say about that.
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People think I'm a Dawson hater just because I don't think the guy is as good as a lot of people make him out to be. I don't hate Dawson. I just don't think he is improving as a fighter. Yeah, he looked better against Johnson and didn't fade in the last three rounds like he did with Tarver. But that's because Johnson had no legs and he kept throwing a weak jab at Chad to no avail. He was tailor made for Dawson that night. That's why Chad should've rematched him when he still had something left in the tank.
I don't know about power. For such a big dude, he hasn't shown much of that "power" you speak of. He's pretty skilled as far as technical ability though.
it's kind of hard to look like a heavy hitter when your fighting iron chinned opponents
but chads straight left, and his right hook got some good power
I don't know about power. For such a big dude, he hasn't shown much of that "power" you speak of. He's pretty skilled as far as technical ability though.
He staggered Adamek with a counter right hook off of the ropes in the 11th round. He can punch, he just thinks skill before power. Hes not a massive puncher, but he has that respecting crisp type of power.
I have these guys fairly even, maybe with Dawson edging it. Dawson is more polished, but Ward fights with more fire. A fight between the two would be a nightmare for me to pick.
seriously? I will take Dawson easily and give you odds on Ward if you like. this fight isn't even close for me at this moment.
I have these guys fairly even, maybe with Dawson edging it. Dawson is more polished, but Ward fights with more fire. A fight between the two would be a nightmare for me to pick.
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