Shock horror. Not a Manny/Floyd thread.
so what do you guys make of him. Think he is any good? Ranked 3rd best in his weight class. Behind Roy Jones Jr but i think Cloud beats him.
I think Dawson would UD him to be honest. The division doesnt appear to be loaded and you have 3 out of the top 5 aged 40+.
bold statement there.
i am interested to see how nathan cleverly does. 5 years younger than cloud and dawson. got a european title he should get soon.yea cleverly is a good prospect. im not making the statement like that because i think cloud is that much better than dawson i just think cloud's style is dawson's worst nightmare. cloud did get hit more often then youd like against woods but i honestly think that had alot to do with the 12 month layoff he had and woods has a really good jab himself
Cloud Cleverly is probably more likely than Cloud Dawson to be honest, I can see Dawson chasing one of two match ups for big $ 1) winner of Jones Hopkins and / or 2) going down 7lbs to fight the winner of the super six. Dawson needs to be careful to stay active look what happened to Winky when he stayed inactive waiting for the big fight to come to him.
yeah going down would be a smart move for dawson i think after a hopkins/jones jr fight. can't see roy or bernard being too keen to take this one on. super six winner could get good money. abraham in berlin would be packed out. that is if abraham wins the tournament.
cleverly would be better off avoiding cloud for a good 4 years.
Cloud Cleverly is probably more likely than Cloud Dawson to be honest, I can see Dawson chasing one of two match ups for big $ 1) winner of Jones Hopkins and / or 2) going down 7lbs to fight the winner of the super six. Dawson needs to be careful to stay active look what happened to Winky when he stayed inactive waiting for the big fight to come to him.
he would KO dawson inside 4 rounds guranteed. the punches cloud was nailing woods with would of put dawson away instantly. cloud is a beast who i think is a bad style matchup for every fighter in the division
bold statement there.
i am interested to see how nathan cleverly does. 5 years younger than cloud and dawson. got a european title he should get soon.
he would KO dawson inside 4 rounds guranteed. the punches cloud was nailing woods with would of put dawson away instantly. cloud is a beast who i think is a bad style matchup for every fighter in the division
Dawson is looking at winner of Hopkins/Jones Jr II, but in the meantime maybe he should give these other guys shots even if its not for big pay-checks. Or do you think Dawson and his team are thinking about risk/awards at stake? Meaning he could lose to someone like Cloud and for not alot of money... I wonder...
Why would he want to give others a shot.
it is all about yourself in this 'buisness'.
when the money fights against the guys in their 40s have dried up then he has to take on cloud.
Dawson is looking at winner of Hopkins/Jones Jr II, but in the meantime maybe he should give these other guys shots even if its not for big pay-checks. Or do you think Dawson and his team are thinking about risk/awards at stake? Meaning he could lose to someone like Cloud and for not alot of money... I wonder...
thats exactly what it is. they're waitin for the big payday against the winner of jone/hopkins II. they dont want to risk that with a lose
Tavoris Cloud is in a similar position Calzaghe was in his career, how can you fight the best if the best don't want to fight you? It's a lose/lose situation for Cloud.
I can understand Dawsons decision. Doesn't look to be many money fights in this division. Dawson needed Calzaghe to fight him.
I think Dawson needs to fight Pascal or Cloud, which ever one has a open spot. I think Cloud is free right now.
HBO won't touch it. Dawson vacated the belt Cloud has right now for a payday didn't he?
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