while i wouldnt say he needs to fight an african american, truthfully, all of the all time greats ended up facing every style. On the way up, pac did not face joan guzman, but he has an oppurtunity to face mayweather who fits the mold of what people are talking about. Basically, other than marquez, just about everybody pac has fought have been either boxer punchers like himself, or engaging/will imposing fighters. Nobody really "moves" against pac.
Think about this, guys like Ali literally faced every style. A defensive minded slick fighter is something pac has NOT really faced or if he has, its been a VERY long time.
While hes considered an all time great, just like Duran is, facing every style is critical in judging his position on that ladder.
Pacquiao = Jack Dempsey if he doesnt fight a African American fighter.
Plain and Simple
Not even top 30 atg if he retires without fighting an African American fighter just like Jack Dempsey
what a stupid question
i hope those 9 were by accident
i mean i think mays gonna beat pac
but as far as legacy it is not close !!!!
pac fighting may would be the equivalant of may fighting a prime roy jones
right now. its gotta be manny.
if floyd grow a pair of balls. i know he can surpass manny. but until that happens. flomos can say all they want that floyd can beat everybody. he is GOAT in the fantasy world of flomos.
Pacquiao fans seem to respect cotto more than jmm for some reason,is that because jmm won both fights?
People feel sorry for cotto thats why all the sudden respect:)
as for me, i like cotto as much as manny so i have more respect for miguel. i think most pac fans cant stand jmm since he cant accept his defeat against pac
I laugh that youre completely frustrated and wont admit to everyone that floyd will never be an ATG compared to Manny. The truth hurts, and everyone knows how insecure floyd fans are.
they are not floyd fans they use floyd to hate on pac.. just plain ass pac haters IMO..
I am relieved, thought you actually meant it :(
I'd be hurt if you did take it to heart, man. Serious.
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Pacquiao fans seem to respect cotto more than jmm for some reason,is that because jmm won both fights?
People feel sorry for cotto thats why all the sudden respect:)
Marquez is my #2 fighter, so I can't really answer that, to be honest.
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I rather you call me a Roymo next time.
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I would love to see it happen. Freddie Roach is amazing. He has a great boxing brain and he always has a bunch of different strategies for a fight so his fighter can adjust and make necessary changes during a fight.
Cotto, last night was a fighter fighting by himself. Whenever he would go back to the corner, he would get the same response: Jab, let him come to you, you're doing good.
He really needs Roach I think. One more thing about Roach is that Roach is very down to earth and honest unlike other money hungry trainers (Emmanuel Steward etc.).
Anyways, Pacquiao and Mayweather would shatter PPV records BUT Mayweather would run around, try to potshot Manny, but I think Manny can win by a UD against Mayweather.
Man, you're on point today. I disagreed with a few of your posts in the past but I can't disagree here.
Roach was almost prepared to help Margarito, so I think he would gladly take on Cotto if he went to Freddie. To be honest, I think it would do him a world of good. Santiago has his heart in the right place but seems to lack the knowledge and experience to really make things work. I feel bad for Cotto right now, I love the dude, he is everything a fighter should be. Last night gave me a new respect for him. Not that I didn't have respect already, but the way he soldiered on was worthy of more respect.
Anyway ---> :fing02:
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what a stupid thread...there are too many underage filipino fanboys online so this poll doesn't mean shit....no body likes mayweather because he's the best fighter in the word and people want to see him lose...but it will never happen....this poll only proves whos more popular
I laugh that youre completely frustrated and wont admit to everyone that floyd will never be an ATG compared to Manny. The truth hurts, and everyone knows how insecure floyd fans are.
Manny Pacquiao if both were to reitre today. Mayweather is 31, he ain't done yet, he can still get some other big wins on his resume. Skill wise Floyd will always be remembered as one of the most gifted fighters to ever put on a pair of boxing gloves.
Kev knows it's a joke when I cal him a Flomo (I hope?). Chill.
I'm called a PACTARD all the time, but rather than be offended I take it and run with it. Man, I even made a user group called PACTARDS. Look it up. Just having fun man.
You're alright, Webb, I never had a problem with you.
Fasho Sam, i picked up on it I was just going along with it. Its all good bro you know that.
its all about the skills,i mean there hasnt been a fighter who could box like sugar ray,leonard,ali and mayweather are upthere.
Maybe not boxer, but fighter? That'd be Manny Pacquiao, ATG and living legend.
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Welcome to the club, i was called a so cliche flomo by a poster with pqc in his ava, sig, and name. Its all good though, i cant wait til they fight next year and im not catching feelings already like some posters on here are. You hear me Kev?
Kev knows it's a joke when I cal him a Flomo (I hope?). Chill.
I'm called a PACTARD all the time, but rather than be offended I take it and run with it. Man, I even made a user group called PACTARDS. Look it up. Just having fun man.
You're alright, Webb, I never had a problem with you.
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FLY, that's not a bad idea. I doubt it happens, but it'd be interesting to see if Freddie could turn his career around.
I would love to see it happen. Freddie Roach is amazing. He has a great boxing brain and he always has a bunch of different strategies for a fight so his fighter can adjust and make necessary changes during a fight.
Cotto, last night was a fighter fighting by himself. Whenever he would go back to the corner, he would get the same response: Jab, let him come to you, you're doing good.
He really needs Roach I think. One more thing about Roach is that Roach is very down to earth and honest unlike other money hungry trainers (Emmanuel Steward etc.).
Anyways, Pacquiao and Mayweather would shatter PPV records BUT Mayweather would run around, try to potshot Manny, but I think Manny can win by a UD against Mayweather.
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