As great as Pacman is i still don't see him winning versus Floyd. Mayweather will frustrate Pacman and cause all types of problems he has never seen... Pac man could hurt and drop floyd but its not likely at all. Floyd NEVER gets tired, he knows how to hold and how he block punches with his elbows and forearm is genius. The true question is who will turn/outbalance who that is who will win the fight and floyd is still the smart mans pick.
Pacman isn't mean enough he doesn't hold and hit, he doesn't employ enough ruff house tactics in my opinion, the slight height adv. for mayweather will be big as he is so defensive.... to all those wondering who would win go and watch pac struggles against technically sound fast fighters.... he hasn't really fought any advantage mayweather....
mayweather has fought anyone like pacman but he will most probably stay on his feet and win many rounds, and IF he doesn't get caught by anything good by round 5 floyd will start cruising on him and win 117-111
early betting
mayweather -190 pacman +150
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I got Pac beating Mayweather, just because he's a southpaw and can keep it up for 12 rounds (unlike Judah), although i don't believe Mayweather can get any better devensively, than he was vs Marquez.
What about Manny against counter punchers i.e Marquez? you talk about Floyd getting "clipped" a few times against southpaws but he never had anywhere near the same kind of problems that Manny had wth Marquez, at least Floyd adapted, i don't think the same can be said about Manny in the two fights against JMM.
And i could say the same about Floyd adapting in Corrales 1?? lol we all know floyd lost the first fight so i dont know why you bring up JMM like Floyd never had trouble with a fighter.
i think because he fought Marquez at Marquez's best weight class, plus Pacquiao has IMPROVED so much since his fight with Marquez. If you cant see that then you must be blind. I think if Manny fought Marquez at 140 in 3 months, Manny will Knock him out cold or dominate him because Manny is now a all around fighter.
But every fighter in history always had a tough fighter that when you talk about their career you will talk about the others.
Look at Ali and Norton. Ali always had trouble with Norton but Norton got rocked by Frazier. Ali beat Frazier 2 outta 3. Does that mean Ali isn't as good because Frazier beat him more decisively?
Manny Pacquiao had trouble with Juan Manuel Marquez in the lower weight classes. The first fight he clearly won even tho Marquez fought his way back into the fight. The DRAW was a bullshit decision.
Then in the second fight, Marquez got knocked down which made the difference in the fight. Pacquiao won that fight too and since then Pacquiao has gotten better and better. Now he put EVERYTHING together and is still in his prime.
Haven't seen him fight a southpaw yet where he didn't eventually resort to putting pressure and opening up offensively.
Naive of you to already predict what strategy he'll use. I sure would like to see what he tries because I see a few problems showing up against Pac.
its naive to predict the future which is unknown... i also predict a lot less shoulder roll than one might think.. and lot of little shouldering for balance advantages things pacman never does. I see possible problems without question but will they lead to knockdowns and loss of enough rounds to lose the fight.... i don't think so what about u?
Haven't seen him fight a southpaw yet where he didn't eventually resort to putting pressure and opening up offensively.
Naive of you to already predict what strategy he'll use. I sure would like to see what he tries because I see a few problems showing up against Pac.
What about Manny against counter punchers i.e Marquez? you talk about Floyd getting "clipped" a few times against southpaws but he never had anywhere near the same kind of problems that Manny had wth Marquez, at least Floyd adapted, i don't think the same can be said about Manny in the two fights against JMM.
He was putting the pressure on in all 3 fights being more offensive because that's how he fights southpaws.
All 3 clipped him more than he usually gets hit, even Mitchell. He just had a good enough chin to not be affected by em.
Well Zab was throwing nothing back so, I mean...lol
The Corley fight was just a brawl...he fought offensive from the opening bell and showed Corley no respect(and paid for it)
Haven't seen the Mitchell fight in a while...
A Pacquiao fight will be very different from these fights IMO...
Floyd doesn't fight the same, is bigger, and Pacquiao is better than all 3 of those guys...
And even if Floyd is offensive, it doesn't mean he'll go to war with Pac...
mayweather had way different gameplan for those fighters than he will for Pac. Pac will get so much more respect as he is no sacrifical lamb like Sharmba or chop chop, and he doesn't tire like Judah. Pac will get so much respect no shows of complete disregard this time out
Haven't seen him fight a southpaw yet where he didn't eventually resort to putting pressure and opening up offensively.
Naive of you to already predict what strategy he'll use. I sure would like to see what he tries because I see a few problems showing up against Pac.
Floyd had an easy time with Mitchell...
In the Corley fight he fought very offensive, which isn't ordinary of him...your gonna get hit if you fight like that...
Zab did legitimately give him trouble...
But in the same way you make points, I can say well Marquez almost beat Pac and he aint as good as Floyd...
He was putting the pressure on in all 3 fights being more offensive because that's how he fights southpaws.
All 3 clipped him more than he usually gets hit, even Mitchell. He just had a good enough chin to not be affected by em.
How many defensive fighters has Pacquiao fought who are even close to Floyd's level?
Also how many slick counter punchers WITH MOVEMENT has Pac faced in his WHOLE CAREER? answer: NONE
And how may RIGHT HANDED fighters has Pac faced since Marquez? answer: NONE, people can talk about Floyd's fights against southpaws but the man adapted and won those fight's easy in the end, but the fact that Manny has never faced anything close to Floyd's style before gives Mayweather a huge advantage imo.
Mayweather's defense doesn't work as well against southpaws. Look at the Judah, Mitchell, and Corley fights, he can't/doesn't do the shoulder roll.
And all 3 of them clipped him cleaner and more than usual, it's gonna be interesting to see how he handles it.
mayweather had way different gameplan for those fighters than he will for Pac. Pac will get so much more respect as he is no sacrifical lamb like Sharmba or chop chop, and he doesn't tire like Judah. Pac will get so much respect no shows of complete disregard this time out
how many left handers kind of pac-fighter did floyd face in his whole career?
How many defensive fighters has Pacquiao fought who are even close to Floyd's level?
Mayweather's defense doesn't work as well against southpaws. Look at the Judah, Mitchell, and Corley fights, he can't/doesn't do the shoulder roll.
And all 3 of them clipped him cleaner and more than usual, it's gonna be interesting to see how he handles it.
Floyd had an easy time with Mitchell...
In the Corley fight he fought very offensive, which isn't ordinary of him...your gonna get hit if you fight like that...
Zab did legitimately give him trouble...
But in the same way you make points, I can say well Marquez almost beat Pac and he aint as good as Floyd...
Mayweather's defense doesn't work as well against southpaws. Look at the Judah, Mitchell, and Corley fights, he can't/doesn't do the shoulder roll.
And all 3 of them clipped him cleaner and more than usual, it's gonna be interesting to see how he handles it.
this fight will never happen.... FLOYD WILL ANNOUNCE HIS RETIREMENT SOON!!!!!
i hope not.... i think he will man up for the money... the irs is on his ass he will be there in the most purist of forums i believe
if Oscar would have kept throwing the jab he would have won but he tired which to floyd's credit he took advantage of. still doesnt change the fact that before that mayweather was gettin backed up like a bitch everytime oscar threw it.
golden boy gets tired to much and wasn't really close to winning... then the jab was just stopping floyd from finding angles he wasn't going to jab all night he isn't that type of fighter.... well duh
greatness is often gauged by the level of odds stacked against you and defying it in the process.
many times we've seen pacman do it. just goes to show how great packy had become.
let's just be thankful to have witnessed a great fighter in this era. :D
As great as Pacman is i still don't see him winning versus Floyd. Mayweather will frustrate Pacman and cause all types of problems he has never seen... Pac man could hurt and drop floyd but its not likely at all. Floyd NEVER gets tired, he knows how to hold and how he block punches with his elbows and forearm is genius. The true question is who will turn/outbalance who that is who will win the fight and floyd is still the smart mans pick.
Pacman isn't mean enough he doesn't hold and hit, he doesn't employ enough ruff house tactics in my opinion, the slight height adv. for mayweather will be big as he is so defensive.... to all those wondering who would win go and watch pac struggles against technically sound fast fighters.... he hasn't really fought any advantage mayweather....
mayweather has fought anyone like pacman but he will most probably stay on his feet and win many rounds, and IF he doesn't get caught by anything good by round 5 floyd will start cruising on him and win 117-111
early betting
mayweather -190 pacman +150
:Thinkingo
this fight will never happen.... FLOYD WILL ANNOUNCE HIS RETIREMENT SOON!!!!!
Yeah you must have missed it...or maybe Floyd just turned pro yesterday...he hasn't fought anyone up to this point...that's why everyone wants to see this fight...
which is better, manny going up in weight to demolish cotto at welter or floydie taking up on a blown up lightweight two divisions lower him and facing him at the welterweight level?
u sure u wanna answer that? lol!
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