Mayweather fought Oscar at 154, no CW bullshit. But team Pac makes Cotto boil down to 145. Why not just fight Cotto at 147? These Catchweight fights are silly, Cotto should of just come in 147 and payed the fine.......
But everyone says Mayweather is a bitch etc, he deserves credit for Facing Oscar at 154 and defeating him.
Pac wouldn't fight Cotto at 147 because he needed one more advantage in addition to having a fighter who has already been beaten into quitting. Pac or Mayweather haven't had a live opponent in a while.
when did oscar not have everything in his favor?
even fighting at 147 against pacquiao was his idea.
Yeah I remember that. He avoided Marg and offered Pac a good deal. Pac made him wait and he even offered Pac more % Everyone says Pac fought a dehydrated Oscar which is true, but the man chose the weight, and stupidly ate kangaroo meat and kept himself low. IO believe he tried to stay small to keep up with speed and the footwork but he couldn't take the pucnhes. Infact I personally feel Odcar would have been KO'd if he tried lasting 12. He normally gasses out badly later on aswell. He quit to not get KO'd and now says Pac doesn't hurt.
Roach knew that it was a good fight for Pac. Smart trainer. Him and Nazim are very good trainers in and out of the ring. They actually care and give good quality time and thought to thier fighters.
That means he's contradicting himself if he wants to protect his hands but also KO Oscar lol. Can't have it both ways.
Although Oscar did have everything in his favour.
when did oscar not have everything in his favor?
even fighting at 147 against pacquiao was his idea.
i'm talking about when floyd always says they made him wear "pillows" for the delahoya fight.
he was trying to say oscar forced him to wear 10 oz. that's why he couldn't tko oscar like manny did.
That means he's contradicting himself if he wants to protect his hands but also KO Oscar lol. Can't have it both ways.
Although Oscar did have everything in his favour.
You just kind of anally raped you own argument right there bud. From 105-122 lbs. (17 lb. range) there are 6 different weight classes. From 147-168 (21 lb. range) there are 4 different weight classes. The reason why you haven't seen somebody do what Pac is trying to do is because you have to be born a skinny midget to do it.
If you're someone like Cotto, who started at 140, to be a seven weight champ, Cotto would have to be a champ from JWW to cruiserweight. This multiple weight class champ bullshit is created for the midgets to feel like they have a place in boxing.
tHERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE born skinny midgets They just aren't as good as Pac. Even people in the top 10 P4P like Callbero weho is 5 foot 11 will probably never reach 147
What a horrendous post. In that case, Pac should get 0 credit for the Hatton win because Hatton got sparked cold by Mayweather and then went on to look like shit vs. Lazcano and Malignaggi. Hatton didn't have a significant win for 4 years. If DLH didn't have a significant win before the Floyd fight, he definitely didn't have one before the Pac fight.
So in other words, this is Pac's first real fight since Marquez II in early '08 which he arguably lost. Are you saying this whole 'Pac is invincible' angle has been created by the media and Pac's fellow Asian computer nerd clan? Nooooooo, it can't be. :banghead:
Shit VS mALLGANI? fLOYD musta been shit VS mARQUEZ.
He means the Reyes gloves, known as "puncher's gloves". Floyd uses Grant gloves (I think) because they protect his hands better than Reyes. Oscar was aware of this, and made him wear Reyes to have yet another advantage.
i'm talking about when floyd always says they made him wear "pillows" for the delahoya fight.
he was trying to say oscar forced him to wear 10 oz. that's why he couldn't tko oscar like manny did.
Mayweather fought Oscar at 154, no CW bullshit. But team Pac makes Cotto boil down to 145. Why not just fight Cotto at 147? These Catchweight fights are silly, Cotto should of just come in 147 and payed the fine.......
But everyone says Mayweather is a bitch etc, he deserves credit for Facing Oscar at 154 and defeating him.
How does he deserve credit for fighting an over the hill oscar at 154 and almost losing n also cherry pick'n, when he can't even face Cotto or any other prime ww at 147?!... Mayfag is a straight COWARD and never in the history of boxing have I seen such a coward as a supposed champion..."HE'S PATHETIC"
For real their just looking for that extra edge. If he was going for the 147 title the fight had to be at 147. I'm not sure if that benefits Cotto or Pacquiao. But it makes it easier for Pac to make the weight and still have his quickness completely intact.
I think cotto should be able to take pacquiaos shots, but if he doesn't either he's too weak, too, shot or Pacquiao punches harder than many believe. And if Pac punches that hard than he's a monster. Cottos defense and stamina will be a key, because he's strong enough to K.O. Pac.
you cant compare a prime cotto to a part time fighter in oscar ..oscar was a good win for floyd..but oscar hadnt won a significant fight i years..before that fight he beat mayorga,before that he lost to hopkins and got a gift in the sturm fight..this is a prime champion in a higher division pacman is fighting...both fighters are healthy no excuses..this fight will be great so kill the hate
Mayorga WAS a significant fight...it was for the title, and by KOing him like he did, he made a statement. People were saying Oscar was still great.
Also, this isn't a prime Cotto by any means.
that's a lie told by floyd.
nevada state athletic commission requires 10 ounce gloves for 154 fights.
they use to require 10 oz. for 147 fights before they changed it last year.
He means the Reyes gloves, known as "puncher's gloves". Floyd uses Grant gloves (I think) because they protect his hands better than Reyes. Oscar was aware of this, and made him wear Reyes to have yet another advantage.
i gotta give it to these flomos...they find every little crack to slip floyd's name on a topic
be nice.
it's been a while since floyd has been in a fight people were actually excited about.
Mayweather fought Oscar at 154, no CW bullshit. But team Pac makes Cotto boil down to 145. Why not just fight Cotto at 147? These Catchweight fights are silly, Cotto should of just come in 147 and payed the fine.......
But everyone says Mayweather is a bitch etc, he deserves credit for Facing Oscar at 154 and defeating him.
floyd gets credit but not too much because its not like oscar was the man in the division. oscar is the cash cow in the division but he was not the highest ranked guy in the division.
i was surprized on how easy floyd took it on him down the stretch of the fight when it was obvious oscar stamina was hurting later in the fight. just being content to win the dec when oscar was there for the taking.
but yeah floyd did not make oscar lose unnessary lbs but floyd was not in the position he is now then to dictate terms for a fight
especially against oscar
Oscar had all the leverage in that fight. He got everything he wanted gloves, small ring weight.
In this fight Manny has the leverage so he gets the catchweight.
that's a lie told by floyd.
nevada state athletic commission requires 10 ounce gloves for 154 fights.
they use to require 10 oz. for 147 fights before they changed it last year.
Oscar had all the leverage in that fight. He got everything he wanted gloves, small ring weight.
In this fight Manny has the leverage so he gets the catchweight.
Mayweather fought Oscar at 154, no CW bullshit. But team Pac makes Cotto boil down to 145. Why not just fight Cotto at 147? These Catchweight fights are silly, Cotto should of just come in 147 and payed the fine.......
But everyone says Mayweather is a bitch etc, he deserves credit for Facing Oscar at 154 and defeating him.
Are there people who aren't giving him credit? I know he was the favorite to win and all that and it might not have been that great of fight but he still deserves credit.