Top 10 global stars right now.

What will the top 10 boxingstars globally look like today? Pretty difficult because how do you measure stardom? Is it a question of: A: how big a gate you make? B: How big a purse you command? C: How many people know who you are? D: Etc. Plenty of options. I find it impossible to make a list objectively, but from a global perspective with my own undefined subjective criterias, my top 10 boxing stars looks like this: 1: Manny Pacquiao 2: Floyd Mayweather 3: Miguel Cotto 4: Wlad Klitschko 5: Vitali Klitschko 6: Ricky Hatton 7: Bernard Hopkins 8: Arthur Abraham 9: Kelly Pavlik 10: Mikkel Kessler 11: Lucien Bute Hmm.... looking at it it might be slightly biased towards europeans although I cannot really say who should replace who. Do you? EDIT: I've put in Hatton at no.6. Everybody else drops one place accordingly. David Haye should be on here. According to the Daily Mail he's the greatest boxer since Muhamad Ali :greddy2: But he's a big deal back in blighty now, bigger than Lucien Bute.

Thanks. It's possible that Taylor belongs on the list although his stock and drawing power has fallen significantly. Abraham is massive in continental Europe particularly in the german speaking part, and is building a following in the states as well. He should be on the list IMO. PS: I think you made a typo regarding Cotto for Bute. Cotto is already at no. 3. ? Yeah Abraham and Kessler are on the brink of becoming a lot bigger and being worthy on there I think. Just not quite yet with the likes of some of them. Subjective though really, they're stocks will rise while some others fall I agree. Yeah I spotted Cotto, stuck Haye instead. A lot of that is him being a mouthy western HW champion!

1: Manny Pacquiao 2: Floyd Mayweather 3: Miguel Cotto 4: Wlad Klitschko 5: Vitali Klitschko 6: Ricky Hatton 7: Bernard Hopkins - Bigger than Holyfield? 8: Arthur Abraham - Taylors still a bigger name. 9: Kelly Pavlik - Kelly's fallen off, Mosley bigger previous name, bigger now 10: Mikkel Kessler - Not a world star really, swap for Roy Jones 11: Lucien Bute - Nope, swap with Haye Thanks. It's possible that Taylor belongs on the list although his stock and drawing power has fallen significantly. Abraham is massive in continental Europe particularly in the german speaking part, and is building a following in the states as well. He should be on the list IMO. PS: I think you made a typo regarding Cotto for Bute. Cotto is already at no. 3. ?

Possible. Feel free to make a list with less emphasis on that criteria! :boxing: 1: Manny Pacquiao 2: Floyd Mayweather 3: Miguel Cotto 4: Wlad Klitschko 5: Vitali Klitschko 6: Ricky Hatton 7: Bernard Hopkins - Bigger than Holyfield? 8: Arthur Abraham - Taylors still a bigger name. 9: Kelly Pavlik - Kelly's fallen off, Mosley bigger previous name, bigger now 10: Mikkel Kessler - Not a world star really, swap for Roy Jones 11: Lucien Bute - Nope, swap with Haye

RJJ isn't a huge pull but he is a star, more so then some others on the list in some ways. I think the list focuse's too much on prime top boxers. James Toney's still a bigger name and star than David Haye. Odd as it is to say. He's just not flavour of the moment with as recent influx of hype. Possible. Feel free to make a list with less emphasis on that criteria! :boxing:

I wouldn't consider RJJ a global star any more. He's waaaaaaaayyyyy past it. As stated earlier I wouldn't want to include SSM due to his shady past. RJJ isn't a huge pull but he is a star, more so then some others on the list in some ways. I think the list focuse's too much on prime top boxers. James Toney's still a bigger name and star than David Haye. Odd as it is to say. He's just not flavour of the moment with as recent influx of hype.

It's not that far from mine is it? Still I wouldn't think that JMM has a big enough following. That's why I excluded him off of my list. To be fair to you, it's possible that Haye with his win has made himself a big enough draw to be considered. It's also possible that he needs another big win. yeah, they're pretty similar. I guessed that Marquez would be better known globally than the likes of Bute, Kessler & Abraham simply because he's been in high profile fights with two of the top three on the list (I also have a sneaky feeling he will have been in the ring with Hatton by this time next year, but that's not really relevant in this thread). I think people are right in saying this list is going to be affected by whereabouts in the world you are, its unavoidable really, but I think most people would agree on the top three, the rest, well you could flip a coin really - there are only three active global stars in boxing.

lets see, probably something like : Pacquiao Mayweather Hatton Cotto Haye (very high up the list but you do say 'right now') Wlad K Vitali K Roy Jones Mosley Marquez It's not that far from mine is it? Still I wouldn't think that JMM has a big enough following. That's why I excluded him off of my list. To be fair to you, it's possible that Haye with his win has made himself a big enough draw to be considered. It's also possible that he needs another big win.

look who a bigger global star david beckham or lionel messi, beckham by a mile but i'd pick messi in my team every bloody time. a global star is not about ability it is about making the $ or £ or whatever currency. a global star manages to elevate the sport or insome cases i.e beckham become bigger than the sport or elevate that sport like usain bolt has done. Yep. That's all about how to define global stardom. No easy task.

I know, thats why I'm making counter arguements. You go ahead and try to counter my counter arguements with something. Because theres no way in hell that Kessler, Abraham and Bute have more global stardom than RJJ, Mosley and Hatton. You can't just re-define words you know, global stardom is about how famous one is not how good of a fighter one is. No disrespect or anything but this is just how I feel. I did say that the list was mine and that you'd have to have some ability to make it. I also don't like cheaters on my list. You might disagree and that's cool.

So what would your top 10 be then? lets see, probably something like : Pacquiao Mayweather Hatton Cotto Haye (very high up the list but you do say 'right now') Wlad K Vitali K Roy Jones Mosley Marquez

look who a bigger global star david beckham or lionel messi, beckham by a mile but i'd pick messi in my team every bloody time. a global star is not about ability it is about making the $ or £ or whatever currency. a global star manages to elevate the sport or insome cases i.e beckham become bigger than the sport or elevate that sport like usain bolt has done.

agree with Hyde - Kessler, Bute and probably Pavlik should be nowhere near this list. I even think Abraham is pushing it, he's no global star in my book. Roy Jones and Shane Mosley would have to be high up the list but the big three are clearly Manny, Floyd and Ricky. I think that's a no-brainer really. So what would your top 10 be then?

Ok well then you should have named your thread "Top 10 best fighters right now" instead of "Top 10 global stars right now", because abilty doesn't have anything to do with how much of a global star a fighter is. Kessler might be a better fighter than Hatton but he does not have more global stardom than Hatton for example, and you know thats just a fact. Point taken and Hatton is also placed higher than Kessler etc.

agree with Hyde - Kessler, Bute and probably Pavlik should be nowhere near this list. I even think Abraham is pushing it, he's no global star in my book. Roy Jones and Shane Mosley would have to be high up the list but the big three are clearly Manny, Floyd and Ricky. I think that's a no-brainer really.

Arent Holyfield and DLH retired? If I'll count them in then they'll be at the top of the list for shure. The thing is that if you would say that Pavlik, Bute and Kessler have more global stardom than RJJ, Mosley and Hatton you would be straight up lying. Because the word "global star" isn't about who is the better fighter it's about who is more famous and are more of a global star. I mean that's kind like the defenition of the word isn't it? Oscar is retired yeah. Holyfield isn't, and neither is Riddick Bowe BTW.... I have already argued why RJJ, SSM and Hatton is placed where they are on my list.

you have to take into account marketability, global awarness, ppv sales(the bottom line really) and filling out a venue and how much the casinos are bidding. Take all that into account hatton is top 3 and if you can't undertand this you have a scewed sense of reality and live in your own imaginary reality. It does not go on how good a boxer, or if you past peak rjj style, of have a dodgy past, the 10 top ten global stars are the what they are, not what you or me think of them. As I've already said ability is a parameter on my list. Neither Hatton nor RJJ scores very well in that department. They might be on the list if it was only based on boxofficeappeal, but if you took the time to read my earlier posts, you would find out that it's not my only criteria.

Post up your own list then dipshit, so we can all pick holes in it. It's one thing to slate other people's lists, but making your own is completely different. no need for name calling, and i dont need a list to. the top ten global stars are fact, the one who make the most money per fight basically plus adds on like sponsor. there will be an official one flying about somewhere on the net but i got better things to like sending out more bait for the fishies to bite.

you have to take into account marketability, global awarness, ppv sales(the bottom line really) and filling out a venue and how much the casinos are bidding. Take all that into account hatton is top 3 and if you can't undertand this you have a scewed sense of reality and live in your own imaginary reality. It does not go on how good a boxer, or if you past peak rjj style, of have a dodgy past, the 10 top ten global stars are the what they are, not what you or me think of them. Post up your own list then dipshit, so we can all pick holes in it. It's one thing to slate other people's lists, but making your own is completely different.

I do listen, but the list is mine! Lol. I cannot put Hatton higher because he does not have the ability he had last year (before he became a HW). Of course your point about Hatton's fans are valid. It's all about how much emphasis you put into that criteria when defining 'stardom'. you have to take into account marketability, global awarness, ppv sales(the bottom line really) and filling out a venue and how much the casinos are bidding. Take all that into account hatton is top 3 and if you can't undertand this you have a scewed sense of reality and live in your own imaginary reality. It does not go on how good a boxer, or if you past peak rjj style, of have a dodgy past, the 10 top ten global stars are the what they are, not what you or me think of them.