So what you guys think of the proposed Kelly Pavlik match up? Is this a clear duck?

He should have just fought Williams. Big mistake because i dont really know who he'll fight after his next opponent.

I'm not happy about the fight. They said he couldn't close his hand in training. How come he's able to, now?

I think we have to give Pavlik the benefit of the doubt here. I mean he is only 27 years old and look at his resume. Edison Miranda-When Miranda was virtually undefeated (crazy what happend in Germany). Jermaine Taylor (2)- When Taylor was undefeated and the MAN at MW. Also gave him rematch. Bernard Hopkins - Went up in weight and fought an always dangerous Hopkins. After all that it saying he is ducking PW just doesn't make sense. Although the stuff were hearing doesn't sound good but it is not really logical.

I'm not quite sure. I'm definitely not trying to be biased, but we all know Kelly asked for a later date than Dec 5th so his hand would get better, but Paul and HBO already made the decision to have a fight on Dec 5th, scheduled for Paul. I just wish Kelly would have fought someone with a fvcking name, not this Espino joke. After Kelly finishes Espino, he should try and get Mundine or Mora for a re-build up to Williams, because it's definitely a fight I want to see.

You could view it that way and I can certainly understand why but it seems like after he pulled out of the Williams fight he got offered an ultimatum from the sanctioning bodies, either fight or get stripped, he didn't want to get stripped so he chose to fight a non-dangerous guy just so he can keep his belts.

I was shocked to hear he was fighting again. I actually couldnt believe it. Pavlik has no answers and cant really see how anyone can defend his actions. what you guys think, is this a clear duck? yeah it seems like kelly mayweather'd paul.

i tihink if he doesnt fight pwill in 2010 we'll kno how clear a duck this was or not ...

Miguel Angel Espino up next instead of Paul Williams. He decides to speak out against the Super 6, after Abraham had moved up, basically stating that risk doesn't equal reward. His star has faded and unless he wants it to shine again then he has fight and beat people like Williams, Wright and Sturm. So, imo, he ducked Williams, he f&&&ed about with his hand knowing what was coming up