Cotto vs Pac: Predict the Fight!

Actually we do. how do you see it before being stopped in the 6th? would it be competitive before that, or would he be elusive? :D Would it be an accumulation, like the DLH fight or bombs everytime he connects like the Hatton fight? nah it won't be exactly like the Hatton fight..Cotto is too clever and cagey to be caught right away like Hatton was. At the same time, I don't believe it will be like the DLH fight either. I think the foot and handspeed will be devastatingly apparent from jump, throwing a serious wrench in anything Cotto or his fans, were planning for him to do.. Manny will try to land a big left, and it will not knock Cotto out outright, but it will send him back on his heels and gain his respect. Then Manny will settle into a more cat and mouse type of strategy, where the roles are interchangeable. He will use his explosive foot movement to score hits and dart away, and not allow Cotto to land anything too flush. And surprisingly, when Cotto does land to the body on occasion, Pac can take it. Cotto will attempt to establish the jab to set up some of his bigger shots, but Manny will showcase his lateral movement here and sidestep the jab and throw one of his own, and then roll of it with with a left uppercut . As Manny continues to fight a smart fast, stinging fight, eventually Cotto will lose his composure a bit from frustration and try to really open up on Manny or play rough/dirty tactics on him a la Judah.. But as he opens up to do so... BAM. Straight left. Cotto will genuinely be stunned, because his own momentum carried him into the punch. Backpedaling now, but manny is on him, throwing and throwing. Cotto can't get away or cover up fast enough, but he doesn't want to quit because that is on his mind from Marg, so he stays on his feet valiantly attempting to stave off the storm. But his power is reduced now from getting hit so much, he's flustered and not thinking clearly. Pac hits him with more straight lefts and the sometime uppercut. Cotto is in trouble now. Pac throws all his weight, like only he can, behind another shot after clearing cotto's guard with a swiping jab.. Bam before Cotto knows it he's on the canvas. Angry and dissapointed with himself, he tries to stand up too quickly, and a rush of dizziness hits him as he does so... and he stumbles and does a bit of a drunken two step. The ref sees this and waves off the fight.. In the 6th. 1:45'ish

nah, it maybe the ones betting on Pac placed theirs first, hence the initial swelling of the odds in his favor. i guess the one rooting for Cotto placed theirs only now.

Wait 1 minute....before it was 3-1 or 4-1 odds and now it's 2 1/2-1 odds and the separation is getting closer. Are people finally waking up?

bumping this thread :boxing:

Not that I want this to happen, but... First round starts out and Pac and Cotto both come out not throwing much but the nervous energy level of both guys is obvious. Neither guy does much to make a fight of it for the first minute. Cotto starts to pop out the jab but he is playing very defensive and not really committing to the punch. Pac tried a few leads and lands a couple with no effect, but his speed advantage is clear. At some point towards the end of the round Cotto gets close enough to try and test Pac a bit and gets him on the ropes. Cotto starts to open up to the body a little bit and Pac counters with some quick shots off the ropes. Pac reaches for an uppercut in the last couple of seconds and just misses. Neither guy is the clear winner. Round two starts off with a much higher level of activity from Pac and he starts to try and find a good "in and out" rhythm, while Cotto is still being cautious and tries to offset the activity with stiff jabs. Cotto still looks like he is feeling Pac out while Pac looks to be getting more comfortable as the round goes on. The hand and footspeed difference is starting to become obvious and this is about the point in the fight that Emmanuel Steward says "I see this being a long night for Cotto." Cotto isnt taking much in the way of damage but Pac's movement isnt allowing Cotto to set up for his shots so he is doing alot of chasing. Round two ends and it's a clear Pac round. Round three starts and Cotto tries plan B and basically muscles Pac to the ropes and finds some success. You can see that Pac is feeling the body shots, but when Cotto stops throwing for a moment Pac side steps and lands a vicious uppercut. Cotto is out on his feet and covering up. Pac rushes and bombs away and Cotto takes a knee. He gets up but is clearly fuucked at this point. When the action resumes Cotto starts to back up and covers up and Pac unloads again until the ref waves it off. Pac KO round 3. Keep in mind, Im actually rooting for Cotto. But the training videos show Pac working on uppercuts and Cotto is open to those. He will never see the punch that does the damage. Cool unbiased post coming from someone rooting for Cotto. Conversely, i am rooting for Pac but i don't think it would be quick nor easy.

Not that I want this to happen, but... First round starts out and Pac and Cotto both come out not throwing much but the nervous energy level of both guys is obvious. Neither guy does much to make a fight of it for the first minute. Cotto starts to pop out the jab but he is playing very defensive and not really committing to the punch. Pac tried a few leads and lands a couple with no effect, but his speed advantage is clear. At some point towards the end of the round Cotto gets close enough to try and test Pac a bit and gets him on the ropes. Cotto starts to open up to the body a little bit and Pac counters with some quick shots off the ropes. Pac reaches for an uppercut in the last couple of seconds and just misses. Neither guy is the clear winner. Round two starts off with a much higher level of activity from Pac and he starts to try and find a good "in and out" rhythm, while Cotto is still being cautious and tries to offset the activity with stiff jabs. Cotto still looks like he is feeling Pac out while Pac looks to be getting more comfortable as the round goes on. The hand and footspeed difference is starting to become obvious and this is about the point in the fight that Emmanuel Steward says "I see this being a long night for Cotto." Cotto isnt taking much in the way of damage but Pac's movement isnt allowing Cotto to set up for his shots so he is doing alot of chasing. Round two ends and it's a clear Pac round. Round three starts and Cotto tries plan B and basically muscles Pac to the ropes and finds some success. You can see that Pac is feeling the body shots, but when Cotto stops throwing for a moment Pac side steps and lands a vicious uppercut. Cotto is out on his feet and covering up. Pac rushes and bombs away and Cotto takes a knee. He gets up but is clearly fuucked at this point. When the action resumes Cotto starts to back up and covers up and Pac unloads again until the ref waves it off. Pac KO round 3. Keep in mind, Im actually rooting for Cotto. But the training videos show Pac working on uppercuts and Cotto is open to those. He will never see the punch that does the damage.

Pacquiao by split decision. It will be a war 'till the end. Mark my words.

I see this as playing out as an old Cotto fight. Manny is going to come out hitting Cotto with bombs, but Cotto will walk through them, though losing the rounds. Slowly but surely Cotto will keep creeping in on Manny with the jab slowly wearing Manny down, by round 6 the fight is even in terms of damage being done. Once we get to 7 or 8 we'll see Cotto's body work start wearing Manny down and visibly start seeing Manny getting slower and bouncing less. Round 10 comes around and Manny will be on full defensive mode, though still firing punches back, he won't be running just be on the defensive. Cotto by TKO or KO in 11 or 12 rounds, possibly by a body shot or the Ref/Roach calling the fight off.

Ok here goes my prediction take it for what it's worth...I am a Cotto die hard. Both fighters try to make statements in the first round...Cotto comes out trying to be patient and stalk manny...reverting back to his Pre Mosley way of fighting smaller men...Pacquiao will be elusive through out...but not as unhittable as most Pac fans think...Pac man using in and out leg movment darts in...I believe that the first time Pac lands in the fight will be the key to whether or not he can win the fight...If he lands on Cotto and Cotto walks through it ...Big trouble in Pacland...If he gains Cotto's respect it turns into a strategic fight....With Cotto becoming more of a counter puncher...If Pac can't hurt Cotto ...Cotto goes into stalk and kill mode...which I what i belive will happen...Cotto will use his piston left jab to catch Manny coming in as he lounges with big lefts...Manny will be frustrated with the constant jabbing and begin to try to stay in the pocket longer then he would like to try to land(round 5 by this point)...this is when Cotto begins to land the left hook that spells doom for Pacquiao...after Pac gets tagged he will revert back to the toe 2 toe fighter that made him who he is today....Cotto with his bigger frame and stronger shots stops Pac late in the 10th. If i'm wrong i'm wrong...but it's whats been in my head. Thoughts? Good one. I'm actually rooting for Pac and I think he should be wary of that jab, it has knocked down bigger men before. Does anyone still think Cotto's stamina may be an issue?

poll is up :D Come on people, details, details :D

y'all just don't understand the firestorm that is pac. you will. Pac by stoppage in the 6th Actually we do. how do you see it before being stopped in the 6th? would it be competitive before that, or would he be elusive? :D Would it be an accumulation, like the DLH fight or bombs everytime he connects like the Hatton fight?

y'all just don't understand the firestorm that is pac. you will. Pac by stoppage in the 6th

\What round do you feel this will happen? late. in the 11th or 12th.

I predict Pacman KO 6... and in the case that cotto win KO 8 but i go with pacman because cotto dont have a good defence and i think that cotto go to have trubles with pacman speed

If it goes via Cotto's way, how do you see it? 12 rounds at Cotto's pace due to his strength, or earlier stoppage? :D If it goes Pac's way, would it be via decision, stoppage to cuts, quit a la DLH, KO, or referee stops it? :D If Pacquiao wins, it'll be by stoppage or corner retirement. If Cotto wins, it'll most likely be by decision.

Like I have stated b4 pac puts all he has in one punch lands and hits cotto and NOTHING HAPPENS!!! it'll be competitive while it last till cotto crunches the jab to the chin and the left hook to the body enough to get the stoppage 7ish round.:boxing: Solid prediction man, we'll see if you get it right on the 14th.

I'm having a hard time making a final prediction. I could see it going Cotto's way, due to his strength and counter-punching. I can also see it going Pacquiao's way, due to his speed and movement. This is one fight that I'm just gonna have to sit back and watch, with an open mind. If it goes via Cotto's way, how do you see it? 12 rounds at Cotto's pace due to his strength, or earlier stoppage? :D If it goes Pac's way, would it be via decision, stoppage to cuts, quit a la DLH, KO, or referee stops it? :D

Pac bewildered Like I have stated b4 pac puts all he has in one punch lands and hits cotto and NOTHING HAPPENS!!! it'll be competitive while it last till cotto crunches the jab to the chin and the left hook to the body enough to get the stoppage 7ish round.:boxing:

cotto will put the pressure on pac and pac will move in and out to avoid getting hit. pac eventually lands a solid punch and cotto gets suprised because pac turns out to be stronger than he expected. cotto becomes more cautious for the rest of the fight, pac turns up the punch volume and the ref steps in to stop it. pac by tko. \What round do you feel this will happen?

I'm having a hard time making a final prediction. I could see it going Cotto's way, due to his strength and counter-punching. I can also see it going Pacquiao's way, due to his speed and movement. This is one fight that I'm just gonna have to sit back and watch, with an open mind.