MIGUEL COTTO: When we took this fight we decided that we were fine with 145. We knew we could do it and we knew we would be at our best the next night. We would not have taken this fight if we didn’t think I was going to be at my best the next night after the weigh-in.
also he can be 147 lbs if he wants, but he will have to forfeit $2 million.
I mispoke myself...My question isn't being answered here. I thought Cotto is geting fined at anything OVER 147, and would be fined on million $ for every lb he comes in fite night over the catch-weight of 145?
I meant to say geting fined at anything over 145, not 147...typo. Then roach possibly calling off the fight if he comes in at 148 or over...can you imagine the crowds reaction to this? do you think all hell will break loose? I mean, i can't even imagine, cuz everybody even right now is losing their minds over this fight.
Inside the MGM, the crowd is going absolutly crazy. People are drinking and the adrenaline is rushing through everybodies bodies and brains. Imagine if it gets cancelled at the last second??? Oh, my God. if roach calls this fight off at the last minute, i bet people are going to stampede like cattle and a lot of people are going to get hurt. I just can't see Roach taking responsibility for that kind of reaction.
tbh i want cotto to come at weigh-in at 147. since roach thinks they still have a chance of beating him.
weigh-in is a day before fight night. i think there will be a major concessions IF cotto comes in at 148 which i highly doubt will happen.
Contracts have been signed by each fighter for some time now. This is what it took to make the fight. I don't like it but Fck it now. Let the sht play out. They've had more than enough time to train and make weight correctly. Best man wins.
I mispoke myself...My question isn't being answered here. I thought Cotto is geting fined at anything OVER 147, and would be fined on million $ for every lb he comes in fite night over the catch-weight of 145?
I meant to say geting fined at anything over 145, not 147...typo. Then roach possibly calling off the fight if he comes in at 148 or over...can you imagine the crowds reaction to this? do you think all hell will break loose? I mean, i can't even imagine, cuz everybody even right now is losing their minds over this fight.
Inside the MGM, the crowd is going absolutly crazy. People are drinking and the adrenaline is rushing through everybodies bodies and brains. Imagine if it gets cancelled at the last second??? Oh, my God. if roach calls this fight off at the last minute, i bet people are going to stampede like cattle and a lot of people are going to get hurt. I just can't see Roach taking responsibility for that kind of reaction.
My question isn't being answered here. I thought Cotto is geting fined at anything OVER 147, and would be fined on million $ for every lb he comes in fite night over the catch-weight of 145?
To make it clear..if he weighs 146= 1 million$ fine. 147= 2 million $ fine. Roach has said if Cotto comes in at 148 or over, hie might call off the fight. Which i just don't see happening. Is this not fact or just rumours?
I think that's correct. Here's what Freddie had to say about that.
Roach also warned that he’ll call the fight off if Cotto comes in beyond the regular welterweight limit of 147 lb.
“Our limit for Cotto is just 147 lb ,” Roach said. “There’s no fight if he weighs beyond that. Cotto will be assessed a $1-million penalty for every pound overweight.”
Roach plans to sic Pacquiao on Cotto in the early rounds, noting that the Puerto Rican star is prone to slow starts and has fallen early in the bout several times during his career.
“The thing is I feel that if we go after him and pressure him right away we can get him out of there,” Roach said. “If you see his tapes, he’s been hurt in the first round at least seven times he’s been down a couple of fights.”
Here's the source:
http://sports.inquirer.net/professional/professional/view/20091024-231940/Pacquiao-flies-to-Los-Angeles
he will be fined 1 mil for every pound over the 145 limit they agreed upon.
roach said in an interview that he will allow pac to fight cotto even if he comes in 147 in the weigh-in but not over it.
but ya know what gets me, is...ok, everything is set-up for the fight. Millions of PPV's have been bought. Ticket sales are big. It's a packed house with deafening screams for these guys, and roach all of a sudden says the fight is cancelled??? can you imagine the consequences of something like that happening?
Then i still back up boxing chaos idea to have Cotto come in at 147, pay the 2 million in pennies dumped at the door of the wild card gym and send pac to the nose bleed section. He'll make up way more than the 2 mil in future fights. Besides, him winning this fight means more than money.
My question isn't being answered here. I thought Cotto is geting fined at anything OVER 147, and would be fined on million $ for every lb he comes in fite night over the catch-weight of 145?
To make it clear..if he weighs 146= 1 million$ fine. 147= 2 million $ fine. Roach has said if Cotto comes in at 148 or over, hie might call off the fight. Which i just don't see happening. Is this not fact or just rumours?
he will be fined 1 mil for every pound over the 145 limit they agreed upon.
roach said in an interview that he will allow pac to fight cotto even if he comes in 147 in the weigh-in but not over it.
My question isn't being answered here. I thought Cotto is geting fined at anything OVER 147, and would be fined on million $ for every lb he comes in fite night over the catch-weight of 145?
To make it clear..if he weighs 146= 1 million$ fine. 147= 2 million $ fine. Roach has said if Cotto comes in at 148 or over, hie might call off the fight. Which i just don't see happening. Is this not fact or just rumours?
That's what I was saying Cotto will come in lighting fast + power... its all over kids. Pacquiao made the wrong move making cotto smaller
do you guys think that manny will just stand there and take cotto's power shots and do you seriously believe that miguel is faster than cotto? not by a long shot. i think the jmm that many fought was faster than cotto. granted that jmm landed some good shots on pacquiao in those fights but the manny of today is a lot better than the manny 18 months ago. if camp cotto is relying heavily on the jmm tapes, they will be in for a rude awakening.
people don't give credit to manny's intelligence. manny's ring smart and skills have progressed exponentially in th last 3 years. they think manny is still the one-arm bandit that he was years ago. but not anymore after his defeat at the hands of erik morales. roach has molded pac to a 2-fisted thinking warrior now with powers in both hands. this is not to mention his greatest gift of all, a blinding speed with a southpaw stance.
equating manny to slugger and non-thinking fighter was the fault fighters and their camps past the 1st erik morales fight - just ask angelo dundee and floyd sr.
Pac will be at the offical weigh in heavier than he ever was before.. That probably means his walk around weight prior to cutting weight for the weigh in is heavier than ever before.
That means when he rehydrates and eats and what not, he will be heavier than ever before too. Remember, he was 142 on weigh in and 150'ish against Oscar on their fight night..
I wouldn't be surprised if Pac was 154 or so on fight night against Cotto
Before this gets out of hand. No he wasn't 150'ish against Oscar. Pacquiao offificial weight was 142 and at 148-1/2 during fight night. Here's an article almost a year ago from Yahoo Sports...
De La Hoya closed as a 2-1 favorite. De La Hoya is minus-200 and Pacquiao is plus-170. The over-under is 9½ rounds. Pacquiao comes out with a slight weight advantage tonight. On the unofficial HBO scales, he weighed 148½ and De La Hoya was 147.
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-liveboxing120608
In the Hatton fight. Pac's official weight was 138 and was at 148 at fight night.
http://www.********boxing.com/news.php?p=19699&more=1
Now that I said that, I expect Pac to be at 142-144 at the weigh-in and 150-152 at fight night against Cotto, still a 10-12 lb difference if Cotto comes in at 162. That's still a big advantage for the Boricua fighter.
cotto can come at 147 and still need some miracle to win the fight. I don't know why people couldn't see the difference in speed and skills isn't that they're only just a fan of a fighter? Pacquiao is in a different level compared to cotto that's why even with his size advantage it still wouldn't be enough in this fight
Cotto for sure will be at 160-162 and Pac at 148-150 - a whooping 12-lb difference. This would be a big advantage for Cotto but Pac will toast him no less.
It's the speed and what you don't see coming that counts most in a fight.
Pac will be at the offical weigh in heavier than he ever was before.. That probably means his walk around weight prior to cutting weight for the weigh in is heavier than ever before.
That means when he rehydrates and eats and what not, he will be heavier than ever before too. Remember, he was 142 on weigh in and 150'ish against Oscar on their fight night..
I wouldn't be surprised if Pac was 154 or so on fight night against Cotto
Cotto for sure will be at 160-162 and Pac at 148-150 - a whooping 12-lb difference. This would be a big advantage for Cotto but Pac will toast him no less.
It's the speed and what you don't see coming that counts most in a fight.
Wait a minute...i thought the catch-weight @ 145 and Roach says Cotto can come in fight nite at 146 or 147, but will be fined 1 million$ for every lb over 145?
And if he comes in over 147, he just might call off the fight? (which i find hard to believe...lol.)
I think Cotto will be in the 160's and Pac will be in the mid 150's come fight night.
Cotto for sure will be at 160-162 and Pac at 148-150 - a whooping 12-lb difference. This would be a big advantage for Cotto but Pac will toast him no less.
It's the speed and what you don't see coming that counts most in a fight.
PULLCOUNTER = HYPOCRITE.
He complains about Mayweather coming in at 146.
But then makes this thread.
:theyareon
um the agreed weight was not 146, thats what you are um deciding not to recognize here...apples and oranges....
Especially if he's been nearly beaten to death by a proven banned cheater. And I respect anybody else's opinion, but don't fudge the facts. Cotto's powerful jab rate which pull edited out of the link is Cotto=98, Mosely 71. It was that very effective jab plus the overall punch rate, Cotto was more accurate by 101 overall punches that won him that fight.
And for what it's worth, i respect Pull, but the sig looks like a pissed kid wrote it, and i think his standards are much higher than that. Imagine that, i think more highly of his ability than he does!
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Mosley
Total Punches: 248/774
Jabs: 71/439
Power Punches: 177/335
Cottos very effective jab was obviously a deciding factor, timing Mosely and throwing him off. His punches were more accurate too, by 101. That's why he won. But only by a very thin margin. Not like the scorecards say.
I'm not trying to start an argument, just saying...the sig looks immature, not like Pull. I think he's mature and has good character and is a good poster, respectful of others and i respect him much for that.
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