You really can't blame the counters for being inaccurate. There's pro fighters in there, punching fast, slipping punches fast, it's not easy to get it accurately.
Hell, even in slow-mo, a guy pulls back from a jab and it's not always see how much (if any) really hits the guy's face.
WEll they should do is see the recording and do a real assessment since they will have replays and slow mode at their advantage and show a complete assessment in the replay next Saturday
I say that for the last 2 Pac fights those compubox numbers were terribly unfair to the fighters he was fighting. No way Bradley or Marquez got outlanded by such wide margins.
No self-respecting boxing fan would seriously use it to justify an argument.
That is all.
Yeah. You're right. 'Compu' indicates 'computation' not 'computer'. It's a couple of guys makin' hashmarks w/pencil and paper, isn't it?
They're probably reasonably good at it by now (hopefully they use the same guys every time) but I would in no way call it the last word in declaring a winner.
no doubt. unfortunately, many people on this website swear by it. Well, that is unless it disagrees with their opinion, in which case the compubox have been bought off and its crap again.
fact is, you should never judge a fight via compubox stats, ever. nor justify any scoring.
Love it when people will bring them up to justify their scoring, but then entirely ignore them if they dont agree with their scoring. Awesome.
compubox is a cool stat, but totally compromised and easily manipulated to favor a fighter.
case in point, calzaghe vs hopkins, they racked up points for calzaghe that weren't even on scoring areas...
there have been many other fights where these punch stats dictate how people view the fight and it's easy to sway opinions using stats. the only thing is, it's a couple of people hitting different buttons each time a punch is thrown and or landing in scoring areas..... it's too easy to fluff........
i wonder how many crybabies in this thread were defending the compubox stats back then in the pac-jmm2 fight to try to prove jmm won :lol1:
fvcking illogical whiners.
The only thing I like using compubox for is to look at it over the long term and see how it looks for a guy against various types of opponents.
Even then I would take it with a grain of salt but I figure over the long term when comparing two guys they balance out, so it close enough to glean something, sometimes.
Certainly nothing to hang your hat on but sometimes it does provide interesting info, if taken properly.
Shit still drive me crazy though when people use total numbers to justify the scoring of a fight that is scored round by round, makes me want to beat my face against a wall until the pain stops~
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haha he really needs to let it go,that fight was 2 years ago and its still all he talks about
Its very accurate and it shows how really the fight goes if 1 fighter dominates the other one.
in a very close fight. it boils down to the preference of the Judges. I agree compubox is not an accurate basis on who won a close fight. That lies to the official judges.
No self-respecting boxing fan would seriously use it to justify an argument.
That is all.
sometimes it's great and tells the story of exactly how a fight [played out.......other times it can be incredibly misleading.....
The one thing I do like about Compubox is seeing workrate. Punches thrown. Simply counting punches thrown should be pretty accurate.
Punches landed however, are a whole different story, and should never be taken seriously nor as a reasonable argument for saying someone won the fight.
I'm not sure what's worse, people bringing up punch stats to say someone won or saying "his face is more busted up".
People only bring it up when they can use it to their advantage. When used against them, they simply say "compubox is garbage".
Oscarsexuals (there are very few here, on ESB it's much worse) were the worst with this.
When he lost to Trinidad and Mosley in the rematch, they were somehow the worst decisions ever, because of Compubox. However, Compubox didn't mean anything against Whitaker, Sturm, and Mayweather, because they were "inaccurate" or "misleading" in THOSE instances.