Why are people missing the fact that both of Valuev's fights with Chagaev and Holyfield were less boring and Valuev lost those too?
And those guys stood in the pocket.
I don't mind that Haye won in the least, but he wasn't exactly thrilling us with hope for the heavyweight division for most of that fight.
Exactly, people get all whiny and bitchy like Im criticizing Hayes fighting style and Im not. People just need to realize hes either a boring bitch like he accuses Wlad of being, or hes a big mouth hypocrite.
It was Haye's tactics for this particular fight against a guy who's so much taller and heavier than himself. He doesn't normally fight like that. It was a boring fight, but doesn't make Haye a boring fighter.
Wlad fights like that against everyone. Guys who are smaller and fatter than him. That's why he's a boring fighter.
Haye did what he had to to win, and I congratulate him for that. Wlad does the same thing and I also applaud him for that. Haye ran his mouth about Wlad and then ran even worse than Wlad does, for that I call him a big mouth hypocrite.
It was Haye's tactics for this particular fight against a guy who's so much taller and heavier than himself. He doesn't normally fight like that. It was a boring fight, but doesn't make Haye a boring fighter.
Wlad fights like that against everyone. Guys who are smaller and fatter than him. That's why he's a boring fighter.
For hayes next fight hes going to come and out and say
"well i plan on fighting defensive for this one, done expect any fireworks from me since im just going to keep him on the outside and run for twelve rounds"
Haye beat Barrett awesomly, he beat almost all of his cruiserweight opponents convincingly, the Klit brothers haven't fought Valuev, and until they have, they can't compare Haye's performance to anything else/their fight with Valuev, since fighting Valuev isn't really a 'normal fight'..just look at how he went from Barrett..to Valuev, that wasn't the real David Haye in there, it was just Valuev's size + potential power (weight advantage) preventing Haye from getting as close as he'd like, Haye will clean up the division since he will beat the rest of the heavyweights as easy as he beat Barett, and in the movement department which heavyweight can you compare him to, recently?..speed kills, and until the Klit's fight Valuev you can't really say anything about the klits + Haye's performance, but on his Barrett performance you can see he can beat heavyweights his own size, quite convincingly too.
Monte Barrett was a journeyman in his best days. By the time Haye got to him Monte was nothing to write home about.
He was repeatedly boasting that he'd KO Valuev, and then he ran like a frightened girl. :nonono: :lame:
There were long stretches in the fight when he never threw a single punch.
No different to any other fighters. Its just promoting the fight.
Haye beat Barrett awesomly, he beat almost all of his cruiserweight opponents convincingly, the Klit brothers haven't fought Valuev, and until they have, they can't compare Haye's performance to anything else/their fight with Valuev, since fighting Valuev isn't really a 'normal fight'..just look at how he went from Barrett..to Valuev, that wasn't the real David Haye in there, it was just Valuev's size + potential power (weight advantage) preventing Haye from getting as close as he'd like, Haye will clean up the division since he will beat the rest of the heavyweights as easy as he beat Barett, and in the movement department which heavyweight can you compare him to, recently?..speed kills, and until the Klit's fight Valuev you can't really say anything about the klits + Haye's performance, but on his Barrett performance you can see he can beat heavyweights his own size, quite convincingly too.
holyfield did better against valuev. Shut the hell up.
No way. Haye looked great! He could been more agressive but besides that he looked great. He has beaten Valuev more convincingly than anybody before.
Yeah.
David Haye is such a little bitch.
Ducking, weaving and slipping shots like that.
He should just stand there and let someone almost a foot taller, seven stone heavier with a longer reach just punch him in the face.
He would've won for sure.
Im not criticizing his fighting style if you would pay attention, Im criticizing his comments on Wlad being boring. I dont expect Haye to stand and trade when its not in his best interest, nor should he expect the same from Wlad. You cant have it both ways either Wlad fights like a bitch and so does Haye, or Haye talks out his ass.
He hasnt shown that at heavyweight. His last fight was all suck as well.
Yeah he was very sloppy against Barrett but it was exciting i thought any way.
Haye was the faster and bigger puncher against Valuev and he also ran like a bitch to protect his own fragile chin.
Yeah.
David Haye is such a little bitch.
Ducking, weaving and slipping shots like that.
He should just stand there and let someone almost a foot taller, seven stone heavier with a longer reach just punch him in the face.
He would've won for sure.
lmao @ idiots comparing a man fighting a sensible fight against a man almost a foot taller and seven stone heavier than him to a man who dwarfs every one of his opponents in a similar fashion.
This isn't Hayes fighting style, but he did what he thought he needed to do to win this time.
If you could restrain your butthurt, look at some of his previous fights, it's blatant that Haye is overall much more exiting than Wlad.
Im sure Wlad could also look much better against the fighters Haye has fought. Haye started speaking before he realized what is was like to actually have to fight a HW.
lmao @ idiots comparing a man fighting a sensible fight against a man almost a foot taller and seven stone heavier than him to a man who dwarfs every one of his opponents in a similar fashion.
This isn't Hayes fighting style, but he did what he thought he needed to do to win this time.
If you could restrain your butthurt, look at some of his previous fights, it's blatant that Haye is overall much more exiting than Wlad.
He hasnt shown that at heavyweight. His last fight was all suck as well.
I think for most people the word you'd use to describe Wlad isn't Boring.....more like very predictable.
He's safety first, for very good reason(based on his past)
I think Haye would engage Wlad plenty. Then we'd see what both of them are made of.
Two chinny heavyweights who can bang(when they want to) Could be interesting.
Vitali on the other hand, i believe, would be a step too far for Haye IMO.
Hopefully we'll get to find out.
To be honest Haye was outweighed more then 100lbs. Wlad fights like a bitch against much smaller opposition then himself. You can make an arguement against Haye if the guy was smaller then him and he was running or holding. I didnt see Haye hold him at all the whole fight. Wlad constantly holds his opponents and even the smaller opponents because he's scared to get hit on his glass jaw. I was a big Wlad fan but I'm just speaking the truth.
Haye was the faster and bigger puncher against Valuev and he also ran like a bitch to protect his own fragile chin.
There is nothing wrong with fighting however you have to get a win. The thing is Haye criticized Wlad for fighting in a way that gives him the best chance of winning, and then fought a much more boring fight than Wlad-Ibragimov. Doing what you have to to win is acceptable, being a hypocrite is not.