So in his interview RA stated that Floyd needed to fight guys his own size. When Floyd countered that he faced De La Hoya at 154, RA claimed he needed to fight guys his own size that were younger than him.
Ok, RA, lets do it your way.
The fighters RA requested Floyd to face were primiarily:
Williams
Mosley
Cotto
Now, as we know, Williams fights at 160, and is not Floyd's size, so he can be eliminated according to RA's logic.
Mosley is Floyd's size, but unfortunately, is 38 years old, far older than Floyd.
According to RA's logic, we can eliminate him as well.
That really only leaves Miguel Cotto.
(Sure we could talk about a guy like Berto here, but lets be realistic, he is not ready and not proven)
Now we know Cotto is facing Pac on the 14th of November. And if Cotto loses, it would be foolish for Floyd to fight him, he should fight the guy that proved BETTER than the opponent RA suggested, Manny Pac.
If Cotto wins, Floyd should undeniably fight him.
Essentially, RA's logic used in the interview has Floyd fighting the winner of Pac vs Cotto, something that the majority of fans have been clamoring before since the fight and Mayweathers return have been announced.
De La Hoya wasn't even an active fighter by the time Floyd fought him. You can count on one hand how many fights Oscar had in a 4 yr span up to the fight with Floyd. I look at that win like I look at Oscar beating Chavez, of course you gotta give him credit for it...but it was indeed an older version of Oscar De La Hoya. Nobody can deny that.
He came back and dominated Mayorga and was nearly on even odds to beat Floyd. If Floyd and Mosley fought now the odds would be more heavily in Floyds favor, due to Mosley's age and recent loss. Either way, you cant hate on Floyd for facing DLH becuase of his age and then say he should fight a 38 year old Mosley. I am displaying flaws in logic of RA, not my personal beliefs or opinions.
RA said when Floyd foght DLH he was too old. And he needed to fight someone his size and his own age.
De La Hoya wasn't even an active fighter by the time Floyd fought him. You can count on one hand how many fights Oscar had in a 4 yr span up to the fight with Floyd. I look at that win like I look at Oscar beating Chavez, of course you gotta give him credit for it...but it was indeed an older version of Oscar De La Hoya. Nobody can deny that.
RA just wanted him to fight a legit top 5 WW. And all the fans want floyd to fight the winner of pac-cotto, but floyd is the only one who has not said he wants this fight, and in the interview hinted towards not fighting either of them, adn floyd showed no interst in shane.
So who is he gonna fight, RA was just saying he wants a legitimate WW fight
Bullshit. He attacked him and his resume and showed no class. Floyd hasnt even signed his next fight! Doesnt it make sense to wait until Floyd decides who he will fight next before you talk shit about his next opponent?
If Floyd signs a Mosley or Cotto fight next RA will look like an idiot.
Come on my dude...really? You're taking what someone posted on a forum about Hatton (let alone one of the dudes lives in London) and are basing it as the Boxing world believing Hatton was THE guy to beat Floyd??
SMH...
That displays that there was popular demand for a Floyd v Hatton fight. That is common knowledge, and just because you werent following boxing then doesnt mean it isnt true.
Check the HBO videos too.
Your comments have been proven wrong.
Goes to show all the stupid ducking accusations Floyd has been through, yet he shuts everyone up and they come up with new names.
Lol "Judah will beat Mayweather, he presents too many problems for Mayweather"
"Hatton-Mayweather needs to happen!!! Floyd can't rob the fans of this fight, it needs to happen!!!"
looooooooool
Those were the guys who would beat Floyd back then...and Floyd fought and beat them both.
Now it is guys like Cotto and Pac and SSM.
Floyd will fight them and probably beat whoever he faces.
False.
Again...you're conveniently twisting shit around.
He said Floyd fought an older, bloated JMM who came up to a weight he'd never fought at. Floyd then replies, "Im 32 and he's 36...who cares?"
He also asked Floyd, "Why don't you fight Shane Mosley?" Floyd then asks RA if Mosley is on steroids.
If you'd like me to upload those specific points of the convo back to back I can. The only thing RA was inaccurate with was when Mosley took an L, sue him if he got heated in the argument, because we all know Floyd did.
"Leonard aint better than me because he lost to Camacho" - Floyd
...and we're supposed to believe that too right? LOL
RA said when Floyd foght DLH he was too old. And he needed to fight someone his size and his own age.
Come on my dude...really? You're taking what someone posted on a forum about Hatton (let alone one of the dudes lives in London) and are basing it as the Boxing world believing Hatton was THE guy to beat Floyd??
SMH...
Ah..
It just so happens I was watching the Gatti fight... Fascinating fight really.
Hatton was there... 2:00
and Cotto was there... 0:10
and you know what? They both look stunned at Floyd's performance... LMAO.
but thats not the point... the point is...
2:40... They are seriously discussing Floyd fighting Hatton. The two opponents they mention...the ONLY two..are Cotto and Hatton. And they readily admit Hatton had a bigger "economic cushion"...So before, and coming up to, the fight...Hatton was considered one of the top guys for Mayweather to fight. Only AFTER, did people start their whining.
LMAO @ u cats
So in his interview RA stated that Floyd needed to fight guys his own size. When Floyd countered that he faced De La Hoya at 154, RA claimed he needed to fight guys his own size that were younger than him.
Ok, RA, lets do it your way.
The fighters RA requested Floyd to face were primiarily:
Williams
Mosley
Cotto
Now, as we know, Williams fights at 160, and is not Floyd's size, so he can be eliminated according to RA's logic.
Mosley is Floyd's size, but unfortunately, is 38 years old, far older than Floyd.
According to RA's logic, we can eliminate him as well.
That really only leaves Miguel Cotto.
(Sure we could talk about a guy like Berto here, but lets be realistic, he is not ready and not proven)
Now we know Cotto is facing Pac on the 14th of November. And if Cotto loses, it would be foolish for Floyd to fight him, he should fight the guy that proved BETTER than the opponent RA suggested, Manny Pac.
If Cotto wins, Floyd should undeniably fight him.
Essentially, RA's logic used in the interview has Floyd fighting the winner of Pac vs Cotto, something that the majority of fans have been clamoring before since the fight and Mayweathers return have been announced.
RA just wanted him to fight a legit top 5 WW. And all the fans want floyd to fight the winner of pac-cotto, but floyd is the only one who has not said he wants this fight, and in the interview hinted towards not fighting either of them, adn floyd showed no interst in shane.
So who is he gonna fight, RA was just saying he wants a legitimate WW fight
False.
Again...you're conveniently twisting shit around.
He said Floyd fought an older, bloated JMM who came up to a weight he'd never fought at. Floyd then replies, "Im 32 and he's 36...who cares?"
He also asked Floyd, "Why don't you fight Shane Mosley?" Floyd then asks RA if Mosley is on steroids.
If you'd like me to upload those specific points of the convo back to back I can. The only thing RA was inaccurate with was when Mosley took an L, sue him if he got heated in the argument, because we all know Floyd did.
"Leonard aint better than me because he lost to Camacho" - Floyd
...and we're supposed to believe that too right? LOL
Yeah its obvious floyd didnt handle himself nicely in this interview, he wasnt very eloquent.
But its also quite obvious he's willing to fight cotto or pacman after they get their shit done right?
Atleast thats what he has stated in numerous interviews.
I dont see the whole issue, sure mayweather got pwned in that interview purely because he couldnt stay calm.
But the points made by Ra were just based on hate. He was suggesting all these fighters would destroy floyd, at the same time sucking his dick.
Offcourse its a buisness, looking at this purely from a legacy point of view is stupid, ray robinson didnt give a ****, he wanted as much money as possible.
You can watch those documentaries and see.
At the time many haters thought dela was gonna win, or hatton had a very good chance, or baldo was a legitimate threat. But when floyd defeats them they become garbage.. ''common baldomir with like 11 losses'' Well at the time brian kenny was hardcore dicksucking baldomir.
But floyd hasnt lost yet, and he hasnt retired, its time to hate when he chooses to fight hatton next. Not because he defeated a very technical p4p fighter after a 2 year layoff.
RA said Floyd needs to fight someone that is his size and not older than him.
True or false.
False.
Again...you're conveniently twisting shit around.
He said Floyd fought an older, bloated JMM who came up to a weight he'd never fought at. Floyd then replies, "Im 32 and he's 36...who cares?"
He also asked Floyd, "Why don't you fight Shane Mosley?" Floyd then asks RA if Mosley is on steroids.
If you'd like me to upload those specific points of the convo back to back I can. The only thing RA was inaccurate with was when Mosley took an L, sue him if he got heated in the argument, because we all know Floyd did.
"Leonard aint better than me because he lost to Camacho" - Floyd
...and we're supposed to believe that too right? LOL
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40862&highlight=Floyd
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52544&highlight=Mayweather
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49841&highlight=Mayweather
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80310&highlight=Floyd
Come on my dude...really? You're taking what someone posted on a forum about Hatton (let alone one of the dudes lives in London) and are basing it as the Boxing world believing Hatton was THE guy to beat Floyd??
SMH...
So in his interview RA stated that Floyd needed to fight guys his own size. When Floyd countered that he faced De La Hoya at 154, RA claimed he needed to fight guys his own size that were younger than him.
Ok, RA, lets do it your way.
The fighters RA requested Floyd to face were primiarily:
Williams
Mosley
Cotto
Now, as we know, Williams fights at 160, and is not Floyd's size, so he can be eliminated according to RA's logic.
Mosley is Floyd's size, but unfortunately, is 38 years old, far older than Floyd.
According to RA's logic, we can eliminate him as well.
That really only leaves Miguel Cotto.
(Sure we could talk about a guy like Berto here, but lets be realistic, he is not ready and not proven)
Now we know Cotto is facing Pac on the 14th of November. And if Cotto loses, it would be foolish for Floyd to fight him, he should fight the guy that proved BETTER than the opponent RA suggested, Manny Pac.
If Cotto wins, Floyd should undeniably fight him.
Essentially, RA's logic used in the interview has Floyd fighting the winner of Pac vs Cotto, something that the majority of fans have been clamoring before since the fight and Mayweathers return have been announced.
LOL @ RA and "logic" in the same sentence
my point still stands, fukk history floyd needs to fight mosley or get colon cancer and die
You need to stop taking boxing so personally. There is something seriously sick about wishing cancer on someone else.
Seek help.
If Williams walks around at 155 than why did he try and fight Pavlik at 160, and when that was postponed, fight the 154 Martinez at 160 rather than just losing one pound to go to 154?
He is too big now.
Im all for a Williams fight if it is possible.
And you must not have read the first post. I did not say this is what I want to happen, but using the logic RA did in his interview, this is what HE would want to happen.
He did offer Clottey a fight at 154 though, so it's not impossible at all. Inexplicably Clottey turned him down.
Read the posts before commenting. That post was made in direct reference to Floyds history of opposition.
my point still stands, fukk history floyd needs to fight mosley or get colon cancer and die
this isn't history class. floyd needs to fight mosley or get rectalcancer
Read the posts before commenting. That post was made in direct reference to Floyds history of opposition.
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