as well as Paulie did vs Cotto he still lost.
i mean 7-5 with a knockdown and 8-4 is pretty clear cut.
but yeah I was kinda surprised at just how dominated Malignaggi was.
I know what you mean about Paulie being made for Hatton. However, Paulie still took Cotto to 115-112/116-111 all around and Hatton didn't even really let him in the fight. Granted Paulie's issues with McGirt were a problem but still - a good win for Hatton.
Hatton analysis
Hatton's only losses came to two P4P#1 ATG's, so Roach is a bit off base. Hatton was good, but just not on the elite level. Not many boxers are.
while harsh criticism, I don't feel Roach is too off base as going into the fight Freddie didn't expect much from Ricky (predicted a 3rd round knockout I believe) and Manny wiped out Hatton in two.
Look at it this way, instead of blaming the ref, Hatton's going with the over trained excuse, which so deep into his career (47th pro fight) shouldn't be happening
I mean lose because the other guy was better then you or the judges "screwed you" but over training? sad
going back to how easily Hatton got wiped out ... even David Diaz who I don't rate too highly lasted 7 more rounds the Ricky.
of course head to head Ricky's done more career wise then David and would no doubt beat him in a fight .. but he lasted much longer vs Pacquiao
Hatton was a good champion. He had some very nice wins at 140 (Maussa, Tszyu, Urango, Malignaggi etc) and a win over Collazo at 147 is a good accomplishment for the WBA.
I mean people forget he absolutely brutalised Paulie. You got what you saw with Hatton: A face first guy who came to fight and brutalise you. Against top opponents he came apart but noone's calling him the GOAT so what's the problem?
not forgetting the win over Paulie, IMO it is one of Hatton's best efforts however i really feel that fight was a perfectly selected opponent for Hatton as besides Malignaggi's movements nothing else to really trouble Ricky. It is a fight I feel Hatton wins easily at almost any stage in his career.
I love Pac but he will never officially be all they say he is until he fights a tru ww with no catch weights. Its not cool to say "hey I'll race you if you let a lil air outta your tires first" Thats what Pac is doing to these guys. Why fight Oscar at 47 then ask Cotto to lose 2 pounds of muscle to make 45? Lets just do it I say, no catch weight shyt
its true... but hatton's style was never made to last this long
Yep, that i understand but people crying over what Roach said and posting the titles that Hatton won etc making me laugh, the guy just isnt good, I think he picked the right fights at the right time to get to the point of winning a title, He went for the big fights like the mayweather and pacquiao fight but even before those fight was signed i knew he would lose them both.
He had more hype than most average boxers before he lost just based on beating Tsyzu. If Hatton was 21,22 or 23 then i would cut him some slack but he isnt.
For a world champion, he just wasn't that good.
I think his comments where a little harsh, but one can harderly argue after the beating Pacquaio gave Hatton who was supposedly trained by the self proclaimed best trainer in the world: Floyd Sr.. Freddy made Floyd as well as Hatton look bad but not just bad; horribly bad! The fact that he told everyone that Pacquaio was going to knock Hatton out in 3 rounds and then Pacquaio KO'd him in two shows that Freddy was on point with what he was saying.
Here we go with this sh*t again.
Only 2 losses against P4P #1's. Beat and sometimes dominated good, world level opponents.
He would still be trouble for most guys at 140 and possibly 147 now. He just isn't an elite fighter. But he was very good.
* Former The Ring magazine's World Light Welterweight Champion
* Former IBO World Light Welterweight Champion
* Former 2x IBF World Light Welterweight Champion
* Former WBA World Light Welterweight Champion
* Former WBA World Welterweight Champion
* Former WBU Light Welterweight Champion
* Former British Light Welterweight Champion
* Former WBO Inter-Continental Light Welterweight Champion
* Former WBA Inter-Continental Light Welterweight Champion
* Former British Central Area Light Welterweight Champion
* The Ring magazine's 2005 'Fighter of the Year'
* ABA National Champion Light Welterweight 1997
* ABA National Junior Champion (Class A) Light Welterweight 1995,1996
* ABA National Junior Champion (Class B) Light Welterweight 1997
* ABA National Junior Champion (Class C) Light Welterweight 1994.
Professional boxing record
45 Wins (32 knockouts, 12 decisions, 1 disqualification), 2 Loss, 0 Draws
Result Opponent Type Rd., Time Date Location Notes
Loss Philippines Manny Pacquiao KO 2 (12), 2:59 2 May 2009 Las Vegas, Nevada Lost IBO Light welterweight title and Ring Magazine
Junior Welterweight title.
Win United States Paulie Malignaggi TKO (corner retirement) 11 (12), 0:48 22 November 2008 Las Vegas, Nevada Retained IBO Light welterweight title.
Win United States Juan Lazcano Decision (unanimous) 12 24 May 2008 Manchester, UK Retained IBO Light welterweight title.
Loss United States Floyd Mayweather, Jr. TKO 10 (12), 1:35 8 December 2007 Las Vegas, Nevada Bout for Mayweather's WBC Welterweight title.
Win Mexico José Luis Castillo KO 4 (12), 2:16 23 June 2007 Las Vegas, Nevada Retained IBO and won vacant WBC International
Light Welterweight title. The WBC International title
was later vacated.
Win Colombia Juan Urango Decision (unanimous) 12 20 January 2007 Las Vegas, Nevada Won IBF and vacant IBO Light Welterweight titles.
The IBF title was stripped on 11 February 2007.
Win United States Luis Collazo Decision (unanimous) 12 13 May 2006 Boston, Massachusetts Won WBA Welterweight title, which was vacated on
31 August 2006.
Win Colombia Carlos Maussa KO 9 (12), 1:10 26 November 2005 Sheffield, UK Retained IBF Light Welterweight title and won WBA
Light Welterweight title. The two titles were vacated
on 29 March and 4 May 2006, respectively.
Win Australia Kostya Tszyu TKO (corner retirement) 11 (12), 3:00 4 June 2005 Manchester, UK Won IBF Light Welterweight title.
Win United States Ray Oliveira KO 10 (12), 1:38 11 December 2004 London, UK Retained WBU Light Welterweight title, which was
vacated in 2005.
Win United States Michael Stewart TKO 5 (12), 2:57 1 October 2004 Manchester, UK Retained WBU Light Welterweight title. This was an
IBF Light Welterweight title eliminator bout.
Win Argentina Carlos Vilchés Decision (unanimous) 12 12 June 2004 Manchester, UK Retained WBU Light Welterweight title.
Win Denmark Dennis Pedersen TKO 6 (12), 2:32 3 April 2004 Manchester, UK Retained WBU Light Welterweight title.
Win Ghana Ben Tackie Decision (unanimous) 12 13 December 2003 Manchester, UK Retained WBU Light Welterweight title.
Win Argentina Aldo Nazareno Rios TKO (corner retirement) 10 (12), 0:01 27 September 2003 Manchester, UK Retained WBU Light Welterweight title.
Win United States Vince Phillips Decision (unanimous) 12 5 April 2003 Manchester, UK Retained WBU Light Welterweight title.
Win United States Joe Hutchinson KO 4 (12), 1:16 14 December 2002 Newcastle, UK Retained WBU Light Welterweight title.
Win United Kingdom Stephen Smith Disqualification 2 (12) 28 September 2002 Manchester, UK Retained WBU Light Welterweight title. Smith was
disqualified after his trainer entered the ring,
protesting a cut, caused by an apparent elbow.
Win Republic of Ireland Eamonn Magee Decision (unanimous) 12 1 June 2002 Manchester, UK Retained WBU Light Welterweight title.
Win Russia Mikhail Krivolapov TKO 9 (12) 9 February 2002 Manchester, UK Retained WBU Light Welterweight title.
Win Australia Justin Rowsell TKO 2 (12) 15 December 2001 London, UK Retained WBU Light Welterweight title.
Win United States Freddie Pendleton KO 2 (12) 27 October 2001 Manchester, UK Retained WBU Light Welterweight title.
Win United States John Bailey TKO 5 (12) 15 September 2001 Manchester, UK Retained WBU Light Welterweight title.
Win United Kingdom Jason Rowland KO 4 (12), 2:08 7 July 2001 Manchester, UK Retained WBU Light Welterweight title.
Win Canada Tony Pep TKO 4 (12) 26 March 2001 London, UK Won vacant WBU Light Welterweight title.
Win United Kingdom Jon Thaxton Decision (points) 12 21 October 2000 London, UK Won vacant BBBofC British Light Welterweight title.
Win Italy Giuseppe Lauri TKO 5 (12), 1:57 23 September 2000 London, UK Retained WBO Inter-Continental Light Welterweight
title and won WBA Inter-Continental Light
Welterweight title.
Win Costa Rica Gilbert Quiros KO 2 (12) 10 June 2000 Detroit, Michigan Retained WBO Inter-Continental Light Welterweight
title.
Win Dominican Republic Ambioris Figuero KO 4 (12) 16 May 2000 Warrington, UK Retained WBO Inter-Continental Light Welterweight
title.
Win Mexico Pedro Alonso Teran TKO 4 (12) 25 March 2000 Liverpool, UK Retained WBO Inter-Continental Light Welterweight
title.
Win Mexico Leoncio Garces TKO 3 (8) 29 January 2000 Manchester, UK
Win United Kingdom Mark Winters KO 4 (12), 0:51 11 December 1999 Liverpool, UK Retained WBO Inter-Continental Light Welterweight
title.
Win United Kingdom Bernard Paul TKO 4 (12) 9 October 1999 Manchester, UK Retained WBO Inter-Continental Light Welterweight
title.
Win United Kingdom Mark Ramsey Decision (points) 6 17 July 1999 Doncaster, UK
Win Guyana Dillon Carew TKO 5 (12) 29 May 1999 Halifax, UK Won vacant WBO Inter-Continental Light
Welterweight title.
Win United Kingdom Brian Coleman KO 2 (10) 3 April 1999 London, UK
Win United Kingdom Tommy Peacock TKO 2 (10) 27 February 1999 Oldham, UK Won vacant BBBofC Central Area Welterweight
title.
Win United Kingdom Paul Denton KO 6 (8) 19 December 1998 Liverpool, UK
Win United States Kevin Carter KO 1 (6) 31 October 1998 Atlantic City, New Jersey
Win Belgium Pascal Montulet KO 2 (6) 19 September 1998 Oberhausen, Germany
Win United Kingdom Anthony Campbell Decision (points) 6 18 July 1998 Sheffield, UK
Win United Kingdom Mark Ramsey Decision (points) 6 30 May 1998 Bristol, UK
Win United Kingdom Karl Taylor TKO 1 (6) 18 April 1998 Manchester, UK
Win United Kingdom Paul Salmon KO 1 (4) 27 March 1998 Telford, UK
Win United Kingdom David Thompson KO 1 (4), 1:25 17 January 1998 Bristol, UK
Win United States Robbie Alvarez Decision (unanimous) 4 19 December 1997 New York City, New York
Win United Kingdom Colin McAuley TKO 1 (4) 11 September 1997 Widnes, UK
yeah he sucksss ?
not overrated but not a world class fighter. lineal title holder in 140 lbs is not overrated specially fighint bigger guys and taking risks. not just as good as people thought.
corner or ref stoppage = stoppage = TKO
also, Paulie is solid, many people think Paulie was robbed against Juan Diaz. Hatton is solid, It's just that Pac's style that is really bad match up for Hatton's offensive style. and Pac KOing him in 2 made him look "overrated" or "not that good"
Hatton is a solid champion, he stopped an elusive boxer Malinaggi. only lost to elites. honeslty, imo, i think Roach kind of downplayed Pac's win over hatton.
Malignaggi was not "stopped", he could have easily finished that fight, and should have been allowed to IMO. Hatton beat him soundly, though. I give you that. But beating Malignaggi soundly doesn't make you great. Roach is just speaking the truth in my opinion.
For a world champion, he just wasn't that good.
Hatton is a solid champion, he stopped an elusive boxer Malinaggi. only lost to elites. honeslty, imo, i think Roach kind of downplayed Pac's win over hatton.
hatton never fought an opponent who could do that to him! (at that pointin his career)
yes Khan got exposed for having a weak chin but we all already knew that.
Khan's level of opposition at 22 is a million times better then hatton at the same time.
The difference betwee nthem is Khan is actually a boxer, whereas Hatton is a mma hugging brawler.
LOL Brediss prescott couldnt even beat a blown up chinny superfeatherweight.. who didn't hurt him once. But he knocked Khan tfo.
Hatton was a good champion. He had some very nice wins at 140 (Maussa, Tszyu, Urango, Malignaggi etc) and a win over Collazo at 147 is a good accomplishment for the WBA.
I mean people forget he absolutely brutalised Paulie. You got what you saw with Hatton: A face first guy who came to fight and brutalise you. Against top opponents he came apart but noone's calling him the GOAT so what's the problem?