The Knockdowns Mean "Nothing" says Roach

To answer my own question: Manny Pacquiao will be sparring with Rashad Halloway when Team Pacquiao returns to The Wild Card Gym later this month. The sparring sessions will be in the concluding days of Halloway's training camp for his upcoming fight against Frankie "El Gato" Figueroa on Nov. 04. 3:08 to 3:23 Rashad mentions sparring with Pacquiao for his upcoming fight. Isn't it ironic that Figueroa was hired to emulate Pacquiao for Cotto's camp, and now Pacquiao will most likely be emulating Figueroa for Holloway's camp?

Well, they still have around, what, 100 rounds of sparring to do before the fight? So a lot can happen. Anyone know if Manny will be sparring with anyone else when they get back to The Wild Card Gym? Maybe Alex Ariza? I mean, he floored Koncz 4-5 times in the air. I'm sure that means "something." To answer my own question: Manny Pacquiao will be sparring with Rashad Halloway when Team Pacquiao returns to The Wild Card Gym later this month. The sparring sessions will be in the concluding days of Halloway's training camp for his upcoming fight against Frankie "El Gato" Figueroa on Nov. 04. 3:08 to 3:23 Rashad mentions sparring with Pacquiao for his upcoming fight.

It wouldnt be the end of the world for pac if he was down in sparring as long as he produces it against Cotto. But being decked in your sparring sessions is usually a bad omen and sign. Tyson was reportedly decked in sparring at least once if im right. You got it the other way around, Pac knocked Porter down twice in sparring...

maybe roach has porter and pacquiao go at it good while castillo is there to spar with when they're just working on gameplan and tactics? Co-Sign. Porter is there to help adjust to size and power. Castillo is there to help practice game plan against Cotto's style. They both probably help towards game plan and tactics to some extent, but Castillo is too old to be getting KD in sparring sessions. Roach probably realizes that so they take it easy on him. Porter can take it though, he's still young.

how can pac be knocking down porter but not knocking down castillo I'm guessing experience or a good ass chin.

(SOURCE) Pacman floors sparmate twice By Abac Cordero (The Philippine Star) Updated October 17, 2009 12:00 AM Manny Pacquiao Andy Zapata Jr. MANILA, Philippines - Manny Pacquiao flooring Shawn Porter twice in sparring last Thursday doesn’t mean much for his chief trainer, Freddie Roach. “Nothing,” said the three-time Trainer of the Year over the phone yesterday from Baguio City, right after another heavy, non-sparring day at the Shape Up Gym. “It only means that he’s ready for the fight and that he’s doing very well,” Roach told The STAR, saying that Porter, the undefeated 21-year-old junior middleweight was floored twice by Pacquiao. Roach said Pacquiao sparred four rounds with Porter, and caught the big and burly native of Ohio, a 2007 National Golden Gloves champion, with two powerful lefts in the third round of their skirmish. “Yes, Shawn went down twice but he came back very well and caught Manny with a good hook. He came back very well,” said Roach, adding that Pacquiao also sparred four rounds with Jose Luis Castillo. An Internet report said Castillo, the former WBC lightweight champion who came very close to beating Floyd Mayweather Jr. in 2002, had blood on his nose after sparring with the hard-hitting Filipino. As of Thursday, Pacquiao has logged a total of 46 rounds of sparring, and as the rounds increase to 10 and 12 over the next few days, he should have close to 150 rounds on the book before training ends. Roach said Pacquiao has decided to cut short his stay in Baguio by a day. He said they should be in Manila on the evening of Thursday, instead of Friday, and train two days in a local gym before flying to Los Angeles on Saturday evening. “It’s a little hectic coming down so we pushed the date a day ahead,” said Roach, referring to the terrible road conditions from Baguio all the way down to Manila due to the recent spate of typhoons to hit the country. Pacquiao will hold sparring today against Porter and Castillo, who seemed to have impressed Roach with his style. “I like his style because he likes to come in and tends to lean forward,” said Roach, close to saying that Castillo, who had two memorable fights with the late Diego Corrales, fights like Cotto. A few days ago, there was a thread at Pacand, the highly popular Pacquiao website, saying that the Filipino pound-for-pound champion got knocked down in sparring. But Nonoy Neri of Team Pacquiao was quick to brush it aside. “Nothing like that. No knockdowns,” he said. Not until Thursday, when Porter, not Pacquiao, hit the floor. Not once but twice. how can pac be knocking down porter but not knocking down castillo

really? i didn't know that. glad you told me pro is different from the amateurs. pacquiao should get elite level sparring partners. why do these stupid fighters always get young prospects to be their sparring partners? dumb. people should hire top 10 p4p fighters and champions as sparring partners. roach should get mosley or mayweather to spar with pacquiao. It really dosent matter if PAC kills porter while sparring. All that says is that PAC> Porter. Dont you think all fighters dominate thier sparring partners during trainning camp? I would hope so, but just because you dominate a guy you pay to imitate the guy you will fight dosent mean you garunteed suscess. You could knock out 10 sparring partners and then get KOed in 1st round of your fight. And like ive said time and time again. This is the biggest fight of PACs carrer. With more money involve than ever most likely. Do you really think these sparring sessions are no holds barred? You would have to be a fool if the enviroment isnt controlled to a certain extent.

It wouldnt be the end of the world for pac if he was down in sparring as long as he produces it against Cotto. But being decked in your sparring sessions is usually a bad omen and sign. Tyson was reportedly decked in sparring at least once if im right.

really? i didn't know that. glad you told me pro is different from the amateurs. pacquiao should get elite level sparring partners. why do these stupid fighters always get young prospects to be their sparring partners? dumb. people should hire top 10 p4p fighters and champions as sparring partners. roach should get mosley or mayweather to spar with pacquiao. Nice straw man. Anyways, Pacquiao has sparred with champions but from different weight divisions--Linares(Former champion) and Israel Vazquez so it's out of the realm of possibility sparring with guys with a little bit more experience? heh. But that's hard given most established fighters don't train with others near their weight division. So you take what you can get.

you don't need experience in sparring. do you guys know what sparring is for? 1. it's to get some rounds in to get in shape. 2. it's for the sparring partner to move/act like the opponent somewhat to practice tactics on. 3. to get used to a certain height/weight/reach of an opponent. you don't need experience to do that. porter has what 10-15 pro fights and 300 amateur fights? that's good enough for a sparring partner. fucking michelle is sparring with his cousin pedro and his friend juan for god's sake and you're talking about pacquiao sparring with a middleweight that has over 300 fights under his belt and is a golden gloves/world championships champion. Pro is different from amateur. What i'm saying is, if you have acquired the experience like Coto fighting WW fighters at such a high level--you're able to utilize you're overall physical attributes. Because Porter has not done that--he's probably not as effective with his own physical attributes as he will be in years to come.

Which way did he go George, Which way did he go? I don't know Lenny, I don't know.

this Porter guy is not even that good he gets hit with everything his head is defense so he prolly walked right into the punch and Pac dropped Marquez 3 times and still got his ass whooped so the knockdowns don't really mean anything i bet if you send Porter and Castillo over to Cotto's camp i bet both get KO'ed

Ayos! Just what i wanted to hear. Pacman says Im just doing my job, nothing personal"

If it dosent mean anything then dont annonce it. But it's an interview. He was asked what he thought about it.

Which is exactly why Porter was brought in. Well done Manny. Well done Freddy. After being in with Porter, who is stronger and bigger than Cotto and just about the same quickness, Cotto will feel light to Manny. Great job in preperation. I am leaning toward Manny now. I was in a 50/50 state of mind for a while. But Porter doesn't have the experience though. It's still 50/50.

If it dosent mean anything then dont annonce it.

I will have to agree with you after a week or two of sparring sessions, Pacquiao seems to have adjusted to Porter's style, power, and size. I just hope he can adjust quickly against Cotto on November 14. Which is exactly why Porter was brought in. Well done Manny. Well done Freddy. After being in with Porter, who is stronger and bigger than Cotto and just about the same quickness, Cotto will feel light to Manny. Great job in preperation. I am leaning toward Manny now. I was in a 50/50 state of mind for a while.

Damn suddenly Pacquiao is just owning the bigger guys. Cotto might be in for it. Seriously if Manny beats Cotto, me thinks Manny was in the wrong divisions to begin with. Like Floyd Sr., said: Where is Manny getting his power from? I am baffled.

porters good and he has extensive amateur experience, i think he was even an alternate on the olympic team, but he's still only 21 and limited against the caliber fighter of pac. after 4 sessions pac had probably seen everything porter had to offer. I will have to agree with you after a week or two of sparring sessions, Pacquiao seems to have adjusted to Porter's style, power, and size. I just hope he can adjust quickly against Cotto on November 14.

goodness.. give us a video