Zab Judah is the reason

as soon as i saw this thread title, i knew it was about pbf. lol

Why do I always have to repeat the same thing? It wasnt Zab's speed that troubled Floyd early. It was his speed & power combined with being a Southpaw. Southpaw is the biggest advantage in boxing and it troubles alot of people. Pac would easily be 0-2 against JMM right now if he wasnt a Southpaw. Shane isnt that. Floyd would not fear Shane because of Zab. The only thing that troubled Floyd was him being a Southpaw and it took Floyd a few rounds to figure him out. That had nothing to do with Zab being a frontrunner. Floyd just figured him out after the 4th round and then the fight was over

Mayweather will never face Mosley. It's already proven and known that Floyd is more concerned on keeping his "0" then fighting the best fights. It's also known that he wants the biggest money fights. The man promotes his fights as if it's a Super Bowl and you can't do that if you've been defeated before. Zab Judah is an explosive fast puncher that came off a loss of Carlos Baldomir, and gave Floyd a lot of problems in their fight together. Mosley is an explosive fast and hard puncher who just destroyed a superior version of Baldomir in Margarito. Mosley never faded and has a tendency to finish his fights very strong. Sure, Mayweather picked apart Judah but I don't think he ever wants to go through that again, and he doesn't think he can do the same thing to Mosley. Look at who he fought after Judah: Baldomir, DLH, Hatton, and Marquez. If it looks and smells like shit, it probably is. Judah is faster than Shane and fares well against good boxers, he has trouble against bangers and pressure fighters like Zoo and Baldomir. Shane is the opposite. He has problems with good boxers (Forrest and Winky) but fares well against guys that stand in front of you and come forward, (Vargas, Marg). Poor analogy.

Floyds a "cash cow", why does he need another name to generate money? Tyson and DLH didn't. cos that's all he's arsed about - what a shame and waste of talent.

the threadstarter is a joke

Judah gave floyd problems ......hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahah................................eeehhhh.......hahahahahahahahahahahahahhaa.....hooooooooooo......ha.....ha..ha

Is that a question or a statement? I can't tell when these kids stay home from school. Am I the only one that finds it funny that a man who tries to act like hes the classiest and smartest guy on the boards spends so much of his time hating floyd? Whatever makes you feel better about your miserable life, Kid.

firstly how exactly did judah give him ALOT of problems..the first round of that fight had **** all action...the 2nd was pretty even and then the 3rd and 4th zab had some decent moments but nothin special ...then floyd proceeded to beat the shit out of zab also were hatton and dlh really bullshit fights dude ?? get a grip boythank you---on top of this--zab lost round 3 and he landed a few punches in round 4 and missed many of his shots---floyd rocked zab in round 2 with a ****ing jab...people are so retarted when it comes to arguing against this kid it kills me....the threadstarter is a prime example of the increasing retardation this forum is experiencing...

the threadstarter is on serious drugs and his flunkies who agree with him must be taking the same bullshit...i mean this forum is turning into a circus---a real circus with these dumb ass threads about floyd is this and floyd is that---floyd broke zab's ass down---you act as if floyd was never hit by his other opponents---corley stunned floyd for a second and hit him---floyd won every round---zab won 3 rounds maybe against floyd---baldomir won 0 rounds against floyd...floyd called out shane when shane was undefeated--now he's afraid of him? wtf are you on boy? floyd would dust mosley---it's funny how floyd is so called scared of mosley but wanted to fight him right after the judah fight and mosley was the one who wanted a vacation...your logic is flawed boy....floyd beats mosley in any point of their careers...mark my words...floyd even broke down how he would beat mosley---how mosley started to use the same punches floyd used---like the jab to the body--and of course mosley throws it sloppy...floyd says shane throws his punches a lot with his eyes closed and that was a bad move fighting floyd which shane does---i mean the hat for floyd is so skewed but means nothing when he is the top guy in boxing--and he is for a reason....

Is that a question or a statement? I can't tell when these kids stay home from school. JMM is only known to hard core boxing fans, he is not a known name in the game of boxing. Yet, Floyd does 1 million buys with him, how is that.

so JMM is a known fighter that Floyd just did 1 million buys with Is that a question or a statement? I can't tell when these kids stay home from school.

Floyds a "cash cow", why does he need another name to generate money? Tyson and DLH didn't. so JMM is a known fighter that Floyd just did 1 million buys with

Jiddu Dali can I ask you a question,all I want is a straight yes or no answer.. Im a big mayweather and I tink he'd would beat all the elite welterweight's convincly and I for one want to see him do it,why dont you want the same???? You discredit all of his potential opponents all the time and say there is no point in fighting them cause the excuse's will follow,unfortunatly with mayweather there will always be haters because of his 'TV personality' by that I mean mayweather puts an act on to sell fights and he is dam good at it.... But can you explain to me why you dont want mayweather to take out the best in his devision???

Mayweather b4 he retires will break all of Oscars PPV records. Mayweathers next 3 fights will all do record #'s? You know why? Cause he is the best right now, he has a big mouth and people want to see it shut..so even haters that dont like him will order the PPV's. Love him or Hate him..this is the truth... oh and by the way..Mayweather-Marquez did much more than Pac Marquez II did. If Mayweather isnt the PPV King right now..then who is? Thats fine and dandy, but why does a "cash cow", need a name opponent if they are the draw?

If Hatton was mentally shattered by Floyd. And, that fight kept haunting him in his every step and every 1 and 2. He would of not beat and look so good against a lower top 10 JWW. In Paulie Malinnaggi. If that was the case Malinnaggi who is top 10 would of beat him. Hatton after the Collazo fight. Went back to 140 and had fits against a very green Urango. Hatton after the Collazo fight did not look good at 140 until he beat a very shot Castillo. Well, now, it seems like you are trying to do two things here. Saying it was Collazo that started the degradation of Hatton's mental game, if not even causing it, but at the same time, making a case for Hatton's mental to be completely strong against Malignaggi. So wait.. was he unsure after the Collazo fight, but then recovered in time for the Mayweather fight.. wasn't phased at all by the Mayweather fight, and then was mentally shattered by the Pac fight after being tip top for the Malignaggi fight? This is what you are telling me? And.. Urango. Well he had been in the professional fight business 5 years prior to his first! loss against Hatton. Urango was an undefeated fighter. And he's underrated himself. So is Berto by proxy of Collazo. Malignaggi, however, is tailor made for someone like Hatton. He's a good boxer and all, but he has no stopping power to speak of, no way of making Hatton respect him as he comes in to work the inside. That match, to me, was a foregone conclusion.

Collazo is underrated imo, and widely avoided as a high risk, low gain scenario. He has given other fighters fits too. Certainly Berto. Its hard to look good against Collazo, which I give Mosley full credit for. Collazo is underrated. However he is not elite. Again he proved Hatton and Berto are not elite WW. Mosley proved he was Elite. And that other thing about.."compartmentalizing confidence". Just wow. Mentality is mentality. If you get beat, you are not going to go down a few pounds and then that will magically erase that devastating loss from your mind. Its still going to be there haunting your every step and your every 1 and 2. I mean, he was so affected by the loss, that he dropped his long time trainer and friend Billy Graham who had helped get him to his level and hired Floyd's freaking father to train him. Floyd mentally handicapped Hatton, no matter what weight class. Pac just added an exclamation mark. If Hatton was mentally shattered by Floyd. And, that fight kept haunting him in his every step and every 1 and 2. He would of not beat and look so good against a lower top 10 JWW. In Paulie Malinnaggi. If that was the case Malinnaggi who is top 10 would of beat him. Hatton after the Collazo fight. Went back to 140 and had fits against a very green Urango. Hatton after the Collazo fight did not look good at 140 until he beat a very shot Castillo.

I think that was more a case of Ricky getting very reckless. Truth be told, I don't think people give Collazo enough credit. He is a very good fighter. Collazo is very good. But, he is not an elite WW. And that is the whole point. That a good WW. Won 6rds agaisnt Hatton. Damn near stopped. So then what would an elite WW do to Hatton? Exactly what we saw Floyd do. After the Collazo fight. Hatton had fits with a very green Urango at 140.

Collazo proved that Hatton did not belong at 147. Yes it was just 7lbs. But, before the Floyd fight. Collazo proved Hatton did not belong. That is why they don't give him credit. Especially when you had tougher fighters out there. Like Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, Cintron, Williams, and Clottey. All of them would of destroyd Hatton at 147. Quintana probably would of outboxed him too. I however give credit to Floyd on how he won. Not that he won. Cuz I already know he was going to win. Hatton at 147 is not elite. But, I give him credit for stopping Hatton. It was not a great victory for Floyd. Hernandez, Vargas Chavez, Corrales, Manfreddy, and Castillo. Those were great wins for Floyd. Collazo is the one who shattered Hatton mentally at 147. What Floyd did was just verify that Hatton did not belong at 147. Hatton was undefeated at 140. Mentally Hatton was strong at 140. And, Pac destroyed him so bad that he don't even know if he wants to keep on fighting. Collazo is underrated imo, and widely avoided as a high risk, low gain scenario. He has given other fighters fits too. Certainly Berto. Its hard to look good against Collazo, which I give Mosley full credit for. And that other thing about.."compartmentalizing confidence". Just wow. Mentality is mentality. If you get beat, you are not going to go down a few pounds and then that will magically erase that devastating loss from your mind. Its still going to be there haunting your every step and your every 1 and 2. I mean, he was so affected by the loss, that he dropped his long time trainer and friend Billy Graham who had helped get him to his level and hired Floyd's freaking father to train him. Floyd mentally handicapped Hatton, no matter what weight class. Pac just added an exclamation mark.

What about the Collazo fight? I thought Hatton won by 1 point. But, wat out on his feet. By a light puncher in Collazo. No that fight proved Hatton did not belong at 147. I think that was more a case of Ricky getting very reckless. Truth be told, I don't think people give Collazo enough credit. He is a very good fighter.

I agree with the guys that have stated Ricky wasn't the same after fighting Floyd. I also have beliefs that his father was a crap trainer and was looking towards a future with his son, but that's beside the point. The Ricky Hatton that was a dominant force at 140 left us after the sixth round of the Mayweather fight. He was still there at the start when he knocked Floyd off balance. He was still there after he showed the cut didn't bother him. He was still there when he mooned Floyd and Cortez. After he started getting rocked in the 6th and 7th, that was the end. What about the Collazo fight? I thought Hatton won by 1 point. But, wat out on his feet. By a light puncher in Collazo. No that fight proved Hatton did not belong at 147.