Who is greater Mayweather or Roy Jones jr

This is a fu*cking joke. Anyone that says Floyd is better than Jones is either a nuthugger or didn't start watching boxing until 5 years ago.:tool: I say that some of these Floyd fans should watch some Jones fights circa 1990-2002, he did some sick stuff in the ring.

This is a fu*cking joke. Anyone that says Floyd is better than Jones is either a nuthugger or didn't start watching boxing until 5 years ago.:tool:

Roy has 5 losses.. Floyd has 0 losses.. Roy was extremely EMBARRASSED in 4 of those losses.. Floyd has never been embarrassed.. You have to compare their ENTIRE careers.. Not just stop all the sudden when Roy started to look mortal..

Yea, well Floyd hasn't made it to his 50th pro fight having fought guys his size or bigger, has he? Didn't think so. See the poll results. He's made it to his 40th, let's give him time. And yes, everyone he's fought with the exception of Marquez has been his size or bigger. He's won belts in 5 different weight classes. Roy is great, but since Ruiz he has shown a lot of flaws in the ring. Prime Roy looks better than probably any fighter in history, but to be fair, if Floyd gets shit for not taking on the toughest challenges, so should Roy. Everyone in this topic has said that during his PRIME Roy was better, but that's not the topic. It's comparing their entire careers. Roy's losses hurt him a lot, that's why you hear everyone say that if he had retired after Ruiz he might have been considered the best ever p4p, or no lower than top 10. Right now, a lot of people don't even have him in their top 25.

Roy Jones is easily the better boxer. People will forever argue about who had the better skills and fought the better opponents but I'll just stick to the facts. More of Roy Jones opponents went on to win championships after he beat them (Bernard Hopkins, James Toney, Clinton Woods, Julio Gonzalez, John Ruiz). Floyd's opponents were either way too green or were on the tail-end of their boxing careers - Roy Jones has yet to show a single sign of ever getting hurt, or close to losing a fight until he was 35 when he barely beat Tarver and got knocked out in the rematch. Jones has a love and respect for the sport. Mayweather retired at 33 after massing up large amounts of cash. Mayweather has also came close to losing against a prime Castillo (a fight I think he clearly lost). Mayweather has also been stunned on several occasions Roy won in a much more impressive and devastating fashion than Floyd and he did it against better opponents. Remember when he mimicked a chicken and knocked James Toney into the ropes? I'd love to see Floyd open up his guard for once and try that on another hall-of-famer. Roy left no doubt who won the fight. Floyd loves to bend the rules by using his forearms, turning away from his opponent, and dipping so low that his opponents accidentally hit him low or in the back of the head Roy fought the better ranked opponents. Go to boxrec.com and that Mayweather didn't face the best of the welterweights. Zab Judah was a has-been who lost his title to Baldimir. He beat the best Junior Welterweight(Ricky Hatton) at Welterweight. Roy was also the first fighter and perhaps only fighter to go through an entire round without getting hit by a punch. So who's defense is better now - Roy never got hurt or close to losing a fight during his prime. So who's got the better boxing style after all or was Roy that much more athletic? - Many observers have also considered Roy Jones to still have faster handspeed than mayweather. Mayweather's speed is mostly in his body. In the end, Floyd won boring unimpressive fights against lackluster competition. Even against inferior fighters, he showed numerous flaws and got hit with big clean shots. Floyd may have won many fights but he did lose numerous rounds against Castillo, Judah, and De La Hoya where Roy hardly ever loses a clear round (in his prime). WOW....just wow Funny how you conveniently ignore that Roy has been KTFO twice.

Fact is, Floyd has the kind of well laid out skill base which means he could fight into his 40's and still compete long after his reflexes and speed has dulled. As soon as Roy's natural abilities faded, he got knocked the **** out Whos the better fighter again? actually your wrong.. roy uses his body better than floyd .. hes more polished..

to even acknowledge Calzaghe-Jones in 2008 as being relevant is just being ignorant. Same goes for this fight with Hopkins. People wanted to see these fights 7-8 years ago when they meant something. There's no need to put "II" up there. Jones fought a green Hopkins who wasn't known by anyone at the time in 1993. In 2010, he's fighting Hopkins for a paycheck and an L. In 2002, it would have been to decide the best fighter in the world. Maybe we can get Ray Leonard to come back and accept a fight with Aaron Pryor. That would be neat-o! your right .. but i also think in rematch jones would beat calzaghe .. people dont understand roy is a more polished version of mayweather

you didn't mention anything about "rematch" or "II" on your 1st post, that's why i said what? no need to get worked up because of that :) to even acknowledge Calzaghe-Jones in 2008 as being relevant is just being ignorant. Same goes for this fight with Hopkins. People wanted to see these fights 7-8 years ago when they meant something. There's no need to put "II" up there. Jones fought a green Hopkins who wasn't known by anyone at the time in 1993. In 2010, he's fighting Hopkins for a paycheck and an L. In 2002, it would have been to decide the best fighter in the world. Maybe we can get Ray Leonard to come back and accept a fight with Aaron Pryor. That would be neat-o!

ummm... what? In 2002, there was a lot of talk about a big fight in boxing. I don't know if you heard of it. It was called Jones-Hopkins II? It would have pitted #1 in the world (Roy) vs. #2 in the world (Hopkins). They argued over the money for about 8 months and it never happened. Not sure if you followed boxing back then. Anyway, Roy wanted 60% and Hopkins said no. Hopkins said he would accept 50%. Roy said no. Then there was another idea that maybe Jones and Calzaghe could fight since Calzaghe was this undefeated super middleweight in a division Roy once ruled. They talked about it, but it never happened. Oh wait, both fights did eventually happen...about a decade after each meant anything. So maybe you think Roy fighting Calzaghe in 2008 and Hopkins in 2010 counts for something. Let me fill you in on something. It doesn't. Roy is just picking up paychecks for asskickings.

Waht if Roy retired at 35 before getting KO'd by Tarver. He'd be legendary, more to know what he is now. if roy would have just stayed at heavyweight he probably would have dominated even the klitsckos back than his physcii was invincable.. but the real reason he moved back down was because corrie sanders was his manditory .. and who could blame him ...

Roy honestly should have been the greatest fighter of all time with his talent. But he wasted his career after about 1996 on. He should have been fighting the real heavyweights like Holyfield and Moorer instead of Ruiz. He also should have just taken the fights with Calzaghe and Hopkins and beaten them both. I can't help but consider him a waste given what he SHOULD have done with his career. It's ****ed up really. Mayweather on the other hand is already a 5 division champ, no losses, and only one close fight (where he fought 11 rounds with one good arm). You can't tell me Roy accomplished more. Roy had the talent to be the better fighter, but Mayweather has done more with his time.

Roy Jones JR who else in the sports has gone through a round without having a punch land on them (did this on sevral occassions) he has unbelievable speed and power the only problem was coming back down from heavyweight too soon which has led to him becoming the fighter he is today having been at the Sydney press confrence for the up coming fight against danny green an interesting comment was made roy said that he is enjoying his boxing more now then before because now people aren't sure whether he will win or not i think it shows now he might not be fighting against the best fighters out there but he is still entertaining the crowds and putting on good shows action wise floyd on the other hand has shown a somewhat attitude towards protecting his perfect record his speed and defenssive abillities are against the best unmatched but has he tested them against the best some will think not and whilst Roy looked for the challenges for great fights most times above his weight class of late it seems floyd is more then happy to see the best fights against people of a naturally smaller weight given time and there is plenty left floyd has more then enough talent skill and big fight opponents in his weights class to change this perception its a tough call but just because of what Roy has achieved up to this point in his career i give him the nod floyd has plenty of time left to still achieve even more greatness

Fact is, Floyd has the kind of well laid out skill base which means he could fight into his 40's and still compete long after his reflexes and speed has dulled. As soon as Roy's natural abilities faded, he got knocked the **** out Whos the better fighter again? Aman Brother

Superman RJ all day, everyday over FMJ. Roy is a one of a kind fighter that won't be seen again for some time whereas Floyd is gifted athletically, but he was created mostly in the gym and by a honed technique that took a generation to perfect (which he did). Roy will always be remembered better than Floyd simply due to the fact that he was a classy and likeable guy with real charisma. Floyd is just a retarded turd. it's explanations like this shit that only mkes it th much easier to argue against..wh floyd learned in the gym is what roy learned i the gym also dumby--that's why they have trainers and training camps--roy was unorthodox---but floyd could be also--but he was textbook because he new how to dominate with it and his strongest asset is not his textbook style--but hs brlliant mind--which is whyhe hasn't lost in 40 fights...roy has lost---he depended too much on pure athleticism, floyd has much more weapons and is he overall more skilled fighter(and this has been mentioned so many times on here already). roy was dominant with his style---but it aught up with him---even though he had to shed many pounds coming down to light heavyweight to fight tarver---he still beat tarver, albeit barely, in his first trip back, and was just caught with a good shot that knocked him out, so that excuse people came up with for him about him losing that 2nd fght by ko, and then the third fight by just trying to survive, and losing to glen johnson by ko---it was excuse after excuse after excuse---fom roy himself and his fans--had floyd done this---he would have been buried alive by you people--that's why he won't give ou assholes the satisfacton of seeing him fall and lose a fight, so he'll keep dominating like he's has done since day 1...roy loses to joe c., more excuses come for him--floyd beats castillo injured and then gives an immediate rematch to him, only to beat him again... floyd is already the greater fighter and mark my words---he will retire once again, undefeated...

Not only was Roy better for the sport, he was the better fighter, took bigger risks, and the better showmanship. Roy knows what the game is all about. Flashy inside the ring, statesman like outside the ring. Floyd got it backward. Flashy outside, dull and boring inside.

It's funny to me that no one ever seems to count losses in fighter's resume when debating who's better.

Floyd and Roy are both in my top 5 favorite fighters of all-time, so I'm not biased. I don't wanna say much, because to me it's obvious Floyd is the much more skilled boxer. That being said, has Floyd ever gotten KTFO? How about twice? Didn't think so.

RJJ actually fought dudes in his own division.

Who is greater Mayweather or Roy Jones jr taking everything into consideration ? who accomplished more, who was the more talented etc etc. Thoughts? Accomplishment -- Roy Jones now. We'll see where Pbf ends up when he retires. IMO, Roy accomplishments could go no higher now even though he is still fighting. Talent -- on the fence, both have mad skills though different styles. Both of them are P4P champions ,Roy has a longer tenure there though. As of now, overall, I voted RJJ.

Roy Jones Jr.. Period.