you can go back and check my history. i've never thought Pac would beat Mayweather, though i believed he had a better chance than JMM. does anyone still think he is going to knock Floyd out.
yes and no yes he wanted the KO but you can't KO a guy who isn't will ing to exchange or try for a win. JMM made a conscious decision to go to the cards. with that May did his best to get it done but when a guy isn't trying to win the fight what do you do. put on a clinic. makes perfect sense... by the forth JMM just wanted to see the 12th.
look at wlad vs Sultan Ibragimov, Sultan just wanted to see the 12 and didn't open up and just wanted to see the 12th.
makes perfect sense.
no, it doesnt. that sounds alot different from what you originally said
but didn't finish him hmmm... could it be because he wanted to have a longer outing to knock off the rust? I think so.
and JMM was going all out in the 12, and even had floyd BACK UP during the end. Floyd stepped back like JMM was tyson
like what? if you break it down the only think many has over floyd would be a slight hand speed deferential and his flurries. that's it.
CHIN
FOOT WORK
POWER
DEFENSE
STAMINA
BOXING IQ
PUNCH VARIETY
NATURAL ABILITY
RING GENERALSHIP
CUTS
ACCURACY
the list goes on...
The only reason why he didn't ko JMM is because he knew if he opened to gain ground back in the fight he was done he never threw a right hand cause when he did floyd knocked him down and hurt him. but didn't finish him hmmm... could it be because he wanted to have a longer outing to knock off the rust? I think so.
sure....so floyd didnt want to knock JMM in the 12 becuase he just wanted that extra round? floyd would sell one of his own kids to knock out JMM, so he can brag about a KO. But he couldnt get it done.
"floyd wanted practice" what a joke
Mannys footwork will be key. As long as he doesnt stay in front of him, and constantly has his head moving while trying to turn him, he has a good shot. Manny already has good movement, being stagnant in place against floyd would be costly. One of the things floyd likes to do is lead in with his gaurd down, exposing himself looking for a quick right potshot. Hatton and JMM fell victim to this, I dont know why they didnt see this coming. Manny will be better prepared under Roach
If anyone has a shot at FLoyd it's a southpaw. Zab had a good few rounds and was able to land clean shots, but he was weak mentally and couldnt re-adjust when floyd did. Manny isnt as dumb as Zab. His speed, along with his workrate could give problems to floyd. Manny punching from all angles ala ODLH could sneak in an offense against floyd. We havent seen an offense like manny go against Floyd yet.
ODLH under roach looked almost better than anyone floyd has fought in years, but odlh was out of his prime and out of shape. he had skinny arms with a fat body, and was gassed around the 6th. Floyd only managed a SD against him, Manny's physicalness and speed would look alot better with Roach and a game plan. This Cotto fight could tell alot
if you ask me this question two years ago i would've said no way.
now i believe manny has a good chance of giving mayweather fits. they could be in the same weight class two years ago and i see floyd dominating manny but not anymore. manny has faster foot speed (not better footwork) compare to mayweather and to me that will be the biggest key. mayweather is so good in using his reach advantage that hand speed alone might not get the job done.
stupid floyd fans or non-intelligent fans over rating the actual fight outcome.
Pac and Floyd will have to settle it in the ring if Floyd doesn't find another way to call his next fight the day of Pac/Cotto fight. I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.
this match up can be sum in one question best offense P4P crack the best defense P4P or we could do it in reverse can the best defense P4P hold up against the best offense P4P...
IMHO it will be great fight to watch ...
You explained why you think Floyd would beat Manny. I asked you to explain why do you think Manny has superior skills. This you did NOT explain.
I think Floyd is superior defensively.
I think Manny is superior offensively.
Hand speed is fairly equal. Floyd has turned into a 1 or 2 punch fighter who has great defense and holds when the fight gets in close. Not a knock, it works for him and he is great at it. But it takes more brains to do that then it takes skill.
Manny throws multiple combinations from multiple angles at any given time. His punches are precise and powerful with either hand. He has a knack for being balanced even when he appears off balance.
Unfortunately Floyds height, length and defensive strategy will nulify Manny's skills and Floyd will probably win the fight. Unless Manny is able to do what I mentioned earlier and that is work the body exclusively for 3/4 rounds and then throw a lot of upper cuts before Floyd can tie him up. The wide hooks will not effect Floyd.
What did I not explain. Can you read? I am pretty sure I laid it all out.
You explained why you think Floyd would beat Manny. I asked you to explain why do you think Manny has superior skills. This you did NOT explain.
you can go back and check my history. i've never thought Pac would beat Mayweather, though i believed he had a better chance than JMM. does anyone still think he is going to knock Floyd out.
Void could have it tested. Void should have waited 24 hours before he signed the "TUNE-UP-FIGHT-plus-OVER-HYPE" fight with jmm. what is 24 hours against the almost 2 years layoff ? Prior to the pac-hatton fight, it was rumored that void will have a match with pac but went out.
Then every time a press con is called, void and his clansmen always utter the name of pac to gain attention when the fight is about jmm and void. and void almost sold out jmm by saying that he can pay jmm to set aside if pac says so. Any how if pac cannot defeat void, then void will chose and wait for pac for his next fight. hopefully since void doesnt do business with legit welter. LoL
you can go back and check my history. i've never thought Pac would beat Mayweather, though i believed he had a better chance than JMM. does anyone still think he is going to knock Floyd out.
roach already said it'll be a boring fight because floyd won't engage.
I contend that P4P wise, in the appropriate weight classes, that Manny is still a better P4P fighter because of his mixture of skill sets
This explanation I HAVE to hear.
I have to admit that I used to believe he would beat Floyd. After watching Floyd use his physical advantages to dismantle JMM I am not a believer anymore. I am still a bigger fan of Manny but have to speak the truth. Floyd will fight at his tallest possible height and by this I mean he will not give up any of his height by crouching. He will be a defensive genius again with the shoulder high and rolling thus causing Manny to punch up and lose power.
I contend that P4P wise, in the appropriate weight classes, that Manny is still a better P4P fighter because of his mixture of skill sets but at 147 Floyd will beat Manny. Manny may even get stopped because unlike JMM he will not continue attacking and could walk into a number of big counter hooks from Floyd. I also think Floyd will flush Manny with a lot of lead rights due to the orthodox vs southpaw match up. I believe Manny's chance is to be 100% dedicated to the body for the first 3 or 4 rounds and maybe get Floyd to crouch a little then throw more upper cuts than he has ever thrown. I say this because up the middle coming up is where Floyd seems to leave himself vulnerable. But Manny can only do this if he gets Floyd to relinquish his height. He can only get Floyd to relinquish his height by going to the body hard and often.
I agree 100% plus manny likes to open up unlike JMM who is more a defensive/counter puncher boxer.
I have to admit that I used to believe he would beat Floyd. After watching Floyd use his physical advantages to dismantle JMM I am not a believer anymore. I am still a bigger fan of Manny but have to speak the truth. Floyd will fight at his tallest possible height and by this I mean he will not give up any of his height by crouching. He will be a defensive genius again with the shoulder high and rolling thus causing Manny to punch up and lose power.
I contend that P4P wise, in the appropriate weight classes, that Manny is still a better P4P fighter because of his mixture of skill sets but at 147 Floyd will beat Manny. Manny may even get stopped because unlike JMM he will not continue attacking and could walk into a number of big counter hooks from Floyd. I also think Floyd will flush Manny with a lot of lead rights due to the orthodox vs southpaw match up. I believe Manny's chance is to be 100% dedicated to the body for the first 3 or 4 rounds and maybe get Floyd to crouch a little then throw more upper cuts than he has ever thrown. I say this because up the middle coming up is where Floyd seems to leave himself vulnerable. But Manny can only do this if he gets Floyd to relinquish his height. He can only get Floyd to relinquish his height by going to the body hard and often.
**** no he will not knock flloyd out, marquez and pac fought a dead even fight, and last sat he couldnt even touch flloyd cuz of his lightening speed...paq will meet his own demise when the fight of the decade happens !!