If Cotto beats Pacquiao and Mayweather withouth controversy, is he #1 p4p?

Streetbully your officially a moron. MARQUEZ is a featherweight who is blown up,floyd is a fully fledged welterweight and cotto is too. Cotto cant go any higher,what? you want him to be fat?! Floyd first off isn't even a top 5 best p4p today and hopkins ain't even top 3 so how the **** is hopkins number 1 p4p? IF HOPKINS & MANNY were p4p choices,manny could lose 6 times and still be ahead.

How did Tito do against a top MW champion in Joppy? Do not compare Cotto to an ATG like Hopkins, that is an insult. C'mon mang, the term "Top Middleweight" and Joppy should never be used in the same sentence.

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Skills Wise Cotto >>>>>>>>>>Pacquiao,Chavez,Tyson who all where P4P # at sometime. Cotto beat Mosley who is bigger than him. Again you cant be take serious when talkinga bout Cotto because of your little incident with him you will never give the give the props he is due, because you had a personal issue with him and your hate will blind your line of tought!!!! Stop bringing up my personal beef with Cotto. That has nothing to do with my boxing analysis. If my being mad at him affected my assestment of him as a boxer I'd never go discuss him in depth, all I'd say is "f*ck that m*therfu*cker" No way Miguel's skills are even near Julio's, Mike's and Manny's. Manny is the MUCH smaller man against Cotto, and he's the favorite in their fight, doesn't that say it all? He has also occupied the top 2 P4P slots for a few years now, and Cotto has barely hit the top 5, even falling from the top 10 after his loss to Margarito. Chavez wasn't the best technical fighter, but he was much better than Cotto ever was at applying pressure, cutting off the ring, and inside fighting, all the things that make Cotto a good fighter. He also could take a lot more punishment and had much better stamina, as well as a stronger chin and more heart. Again, he was P4P #1 for a reason. Prime Tyson is probably the best fighter out of all these, how you can say that Cotto has better skills than him truly baffles me. He was MUCH better defensively, constantly moving his head and bobbing and weaving to avoid punches. He was quicker to get in the pocket than Cotto, who is too patient at times. Obviously he had more punching power, that's not even debatable, and punching power is Cotto's main thing. Mike was also a sharper, more accurate puncher with a more complete arsenal than Cotto. Like I said before, these guys were P4P #1 for a reason. Cotto has never come close to this spot. In this topic we are talking about if he'd be considered #1 after beating the last two #1s, so he obviously has a long way to go.

That's a pretty big if. Depends how he beats them.

how many fukkin times i gotta say this... cotto cannot become p4p #1 by beating pac... if this was true then hatton could become p4p #1 by beating pac if he beat him... ITS THE SAME LOGIC! cotto has to beat mosley to get even close to pbf at #1 (if cotto beat pac) and even then cotto has to beat pbf to get to #1. Read the thread. If Cotto beats Pac AND FLOYD convincingly....then Yes, he is P4P #1.

I would say you'd have to put him there. how many fukkin times i gotta say this... cotto cannot become p4p #1 by beating pac... if this was true then hatton could become p4p #1 by beating pac if he beat him... ITS THE SAME LOGIC! cotto has to beat mosley to get even close to pbf at #1 (if cotto beat pac) and even then cotto has to beat pbf to get to #1.

LOL...what happened champ?: Something about Cotto blowing him and his girl? Sounded strange to say the least.

This shit is funny The truth is nobody at 147 has been as unrelenting and consistent as Miguel Cotto over the last 3 years. He has accepted and fought every tough opponent offered to him, and with the exception of Antonio Margarito (please insert asterik here), has vaquished them all. Whether it be through boxing skill or strength, he has found a way to defeat people who allegedly should have defeated him. I might add that this is a division with exceptional talent. I think people can't fathom Cotto being #1 because he supposedly doesn't display the kind of overwhelming physical talent some other #1 boxers have or have had. Yet, we laud a man who routinely finds ways of getting out seriously competitve matches (Floyd Maywether)- although very physically gifted- and used to laud another fighter who, in my opinion, wasted his best days chasing super-stardom instead of boxing-stardom, Roy Jones, another exceptionally gifted boxer. Boxing has become a sport where carefully crafted reputations trumps reputations earned. Miguel Cotto has unfortunately fallen prey to our sheep mentality, accepting a fight with Manny Pacquiao. Pacquiao, a legitimate great fighter at lightweight and deserving pound for pound best, is going to fight an incredibly solid welterweight in Miguel Cotto. Rational minds know from the get that this fight should only end one way- with a convincing victory by Miguel Cotto. Weight matters. Period. Yet I continue to hear things like "Cotto is going to be knocked out", and "Pacquio is goint to wipe the floor with Cotto." What in Cotto's past makes anyone believe that he's such an easy opponent; it can't possibly be his lastest history over the past 3 years at welterweight. So, Cotto, I am sorry, you probably won't be pound for pound if you win the Pacquio fight, even though you will be able to give every doubter the big middle finger. If you win, everybody's hindsight will kick in as well as there sense of reason. Furthermore, boxing fans will not accept that somebody with little pizzaz can earn his way to the top of the pound for pound list. You must first consistently fight easy fights, win the easy fights big, get overpromoted by the media and analysts who have never even done a jumping jack, and then evetually, after a big win over somebody not in your league physically or talent wise, but who may have a been a former great something, you might make it to the top. Also, it wouldn't hurt to produce an album or get into some weird kind of trouble along the way, anything to spice up the story. Until then, Cotto will only be the most succesful welterweight to get no love from any boxing fan that is not Puerto Rican.

Skills Wise Cotto >>>>>>>>>>Pacquiao,Chavez,Tyson who all where P4P # at sometime. Cotto beat Mosley who is bigger than him. Again you cant be take serious when talkinga bout Cotto because of your little incident with him you will never give the give the props he is due, because you had a personal issue with him and your hate will blind your line of tought!!!! The worst thing I have ever see. Cotto couldn't carry Chavez's jock strap. Tyson in his P4P days had better defense than Cotto, and had much better offense. Also Pacquaio is the favorite to beat Cotto albeit being a FW, Cotto sucks. :haha::haha::haha::haha: Aren't you the clown that said Tito beat Oscar? Learn how to score a fight on clean punching, ring generalship, defense, and effective aggression you illiterate scum. Take some ESL classes.

If Cotto beat Pac and Mayweather impressively, Yes, he would be the P4P #1. Don't really see how it's debatable...

I think thats why he doesn't like Obama, Bantu's are sworn enemies of the Luo tribes. I'm neither of those things.

Wow, this thread blew up pretty quick.

What are you?? The suspense is killing me. What was your Hop/Cal score street? 144-113. I had it a draw in terms of rounds, the KD gave Hops the win.

LOL and Bernard looked like he was drowning, trying to fake low blows to gasp for some air. Street, you really Ugandan? That shit would be tight, if one of my best friends on bS was a fukin Ugandan....lol. Hopkins looked fine to me. How did he fake a low blow. The shot landed clearly below the belt. I think you mixed it up for the Jones fight. Hopkins won IMO. I'm not a Ugandan either. :lol1:.

he's not nigerian. he's ugandan. i just call him nigerian to piss him off. ugandans hate nigerians. from me. :banana: Ugandan? Lol. Whats next Kenyan?

Pink called you a Nigerian that wraps his hand in concrete earlier in this mothafuka. No, I am not. he calls me a Nigerian becasue Ike ripped fat boy up.

I would say you'd have to put him there. Definitely...

bully wants pac to counterpunch floyd. :lol1: Manny needs to fight like Joe Calzaghe. You try to pressure with selected shots you will get outboxed. Just spam like a motherfukker and see where it takes you.

So are you Nigerian or what??? Cotto k.o pac in 10. Floyd k.o pac in 8. Pac is in over his head going up this high. Where did you egt the idea that I was Nigerian?