Hats off to Emmanuel Steward and the professionalism he showed Sat. Night

Manny is the same guy who picked shamba to beat floyd,but still floyd called the man an uncle tom. If it was me im sorry i wouldn't be able to say anything positive about floyd manny steward is a much better man than me.

this is stupid thread...great people come in time of great need.... brilliant minds come in all shapes colors and sizes. an invention in one locale may not be need in an another or another time....doesn't make it more/less important... about 10 years ago, we had a drought in new jersey. Rivers dried up and they found a tool invented by some tribe made of stones using the current would gather and trap fish. i don't think there a stupid patent to that... i'm sure some black slave invented something that his master took credit for. and even blacks that weren't slaves...vivien thomas's protocols made it possible for the first open heart surgery...didn't get credit during that time. this is a topic is just geared to divide...whether or not there was intention i would hope man invents with moral intentions for the benefit of mankind and those that distort change

As a black man myself, I can tell you the worst thing you can accuse another black man of is being a sellout or uncle Tom. Floyd blasted Emmanuel Steward not to long ago with that, and instead of being biased or holding some bitterness inside, Emmanuel Steward still was given Floyd props and his just due. I was really impressed by that and I'm surprised no one has brought this up. In a time where everyone is biased and let's that get in the way of making a fair assessment, Emmanuel Steward gained a lot of my respect. You just don't see professionalism like that anymore and hats off to Steward for it. Guess you have'nt been following boxing long or watching any mayweather fights. steward is always talking shit about mayweather. he's been attacking mayweather for years.

Maybe Emmanuel just doesn't value Floyd's opinion...

yeah... steward is supposed to be a professional.

Basically, if Floyd likes you, there is probably something wrong with you. Throwing all this racism and invention bullshit aside, I want to know what Floyd sees in Stewart that makes him think Stewart is an "Uncle Tom" Stewart to me, just seems like a much better person than Floyd in the fabric of life itself. He is smart, articulate and has done more for his own community than Floyd could only dream of. He is also respected by his colleagues and the masses. So I guess it boils down to this. If I was black and labeled an uncle tom by Floyd I would not be insulted either. That coming from Floyd is a badge of honor.

I think he should have addressed it. They've given Larry Merchant hours of airtime in the past and it never amounted to much. Steward has a real topic to comment on and he should have taken the opportunity to address it. Mayweather needs a dose of reality and Steward let this one get away from him. I was disappointed to see him ignore it.

Throwing all this racism and invention bullshit aside, I want to know what Floyd sees in Stewart that makes him think Stewart is an "Uncle Tom" Stewart to me, just seems like a much better person than Floyd in the fabric of life itself. He is smart, articulate and has done more for his own community than Floyd could only dream of. He is also respected by his colleagues and the masses. So I guess it boils down to this. If I was black and labeled an uncle tom by Floyd I would not be insulted either. That coming from Floyd is a badge of honor.

+ on to the point, Emmanuel Steward is class act and an asset to boxing. In the wise words of Lennox Lewis, 'this man can break it down real quick'.

The concept of the Trinity Catholics belief in the Mother of God The use of a cross in worship That's just off the top of the dome. Its a sh!tload of stuff. I use to study religion and I always wanted to know the origin of things. Alot of what we do and believe is rooted in ancient african religion...things that actually goes against what Jesus christ taught but christians adopted later anyways. Certain common themes run back in ALL cultures. The fact that christians believe them doesn't mean they adopted them from anyone else. It seems that many if not all cultures have "glimpses" of these things. For instance the ancient Scandinavians had beliefs that involved the crucifixion of a sacred figure also. Yes Christianity layed it's holy days over pagan sacred days as an attempt to help the conversion process. And to the Islamic poster, the Jews were also very big on cleanliness.

son we where brought here against our will and them forcefully assimilated into this culture. We lost our history, culture, language etc because people then set it up that way and there was nothing we could do at the time. If you want to take it to that level...majority of the sh1t used today is via black mans knowledge. Everything from religion, science, medicine, philisophy, invetions, mathematics....you name it were created by Black men from africa. So we influence others a helluva lot more than people influence us and thats a fact. Do some research and find out for yourself. Pretty nice. But African-Americans didn't lose all of their culture at all. One of the most glorious things was that people's ability to nurture, retain and evolve those cultural artifacts, even in the face of endemic hegemonic oppression. That's why African-Americans own just as much of the American dream as any other race. Peace.

are the doktors noe wots rong wif u???? maibe its bkoze yor muva and farva are bruva an sizta...ay??? lol i can understand it yeah !!! and i allso understand when people are been flippant !!!! flippant because they have lost a arugment :bukkake:

Thanks bud. I think a lot of christian belief has adopted loads of stuff. The cross was not around during Jesus's time. History is always intruiging to me. I'm a muslim and we try not to innovate. Also we believe a lot has come from Islam aswell. Especially hygiene. 600 years ago a lot of civilisation was pretty filthy and in Islam clenseliness is abosolute or you can't pray. We wash behind our ears, the pit behind your wrists, our asses, behind our ankles. Studies now show that these areas pick up many bacteria. The ass being the obvious lol. I'm just a convert so don't know too much of the other things, but there are books related to Islam and science which I ened to read. Anyway thanks again. It's good to have people with knowledge and talk about these things on a boxing forum of all places. :) It did so because as it expanded it tried to gain followers. In order to gain them they compromised there religion to incorporate the beliefs of others. All of the holidays we celebrate for example were pagan holidays that those groups christians wanted to adopt didint want to give up. So in order to gain members the twisted it around and made those pagan holidays christian holidays. And this is coming from a person who believes in christianity.

are the doktors noe wots rong wif u???? maibe its bkoze yor muva and farva are bruva an sizta...ay??? crazy thing is..he probably understood every single word of that.hahahaha

think that last post finished you off when i summed our arguments up :P your not to bright ! goodnight :P are the doktors noe wots rong wif u???? maibe its bkoze yor muva and farva are bruva an sizta...ay???

The concept of the Trinity Catholics belief in the Mother of God The use of a cross in worship That's just off the top of the dome. Its a sh!tload of stuff. I use to study religion and I always wanted to know the origin of things. Alot of what we do and believe is rooted in ancient african religion...things that actually goes against what Jesus christ taught but christians adopted later anyways. Thanks bud. I think a lot of christian belief has adopted loads of stuff. The cross was not around during Jesus's time. History is always intruiging to me. I'm a muslim and we try not to innovate. Also we believe a lot has come from Islam aswell. Especially hygiene. 600 years ago a lot of civilisation was pretty filthy and in Islam clenseliness is abosolute or you can't pray. We wash behind our ears, the pit behind your wrists, our asses, behind our ankles. Studies now show that these areas pick up many bacteria. The ass being the obvious lol. I'm just a convert so don't know too much of the other things, but there are books related to Islam and science which I ened to read. Anyway thanks again. It's good to have people with knowledge and talk about these things on a boxing forum of all places. :)

Don't even respond to this clown...He needs the attention. I mean read a few of his post. He wants to say blacks arent intelligent when in turn he can't even spell the word intelligent himself. Pure Comedy.lol I just responded because I was bored at work and needed to pass time. think that last post finished you off when i summed our arguments up :P your not to bright ! goodnight :P

this is a retarded thing to say on a thread that was started by an honest poster trying to make a point. I think you are a real winner my friend.....Lefty Don't even respond to this clown...He needs the attention. I mean read a few of his post. He wants to say blacks arent intelligent when in turn he can't even spell the word intelligent himself. Pure Comedy.lol I just responded because I was bored at work and needed to pass time.

and when we REALLY think about it every one is a uncle tom in america !! speak a white mans language!!!! adire to white mans laws !! work for companys founded and owned by the white man !! your livin in a white mans society !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is a retarded thing to say on a thread that was started by an honest poster trying to make a point. I think you are a real winner my friend.....Lefty

You have yet to provide any proof backing your claims, which doesn't surprise me because their very ridiculous. Ive given you plenty of time since Im wasting my time...this conversation is over. Imhotep father of modern medicine and first scientist since you want to be cute about us only teaching religion...he started a school teaching his techniques in moder medicine. http://us.geocities.com/joao_marri/africapart22.html If u dont think this is a credible search...then do a search on Imhotep and you will see countless sources and article backing this up 100%. Again this conversation is over due to your inability to back up any of your claims. right so to sum this up !!!! for your side the argument you have a myth from 2630–2611 BC if thats a fact, then jesus turnin water into wine must also be classed as fact :P oh and a islamic school in tim buck 2 :P i have countless studys cars i drive in planes i fly in ! telephone i talk on ! socitiy i live in ! the world order!! and so on and so on !!!!!! whos right ?