Should Floyd Mayweather Jr. rank above Miguel Cotto at Welterweight? According to Ring Magazine, Mayweather is now ranked #2 and Cotto #3 P4P at Welterweight. I don't question that Mayweather completely dominated Marquez in spectacular fashion, but aren't the P4P divisional rankings also calculated using recent resume/achievements at the designated weight against legitimate & ranked members of that weight class? Please consider the following:
1.) Cotto has actually fought 4 of the top 10 ranked Welterweights and defeated 3 of them. The one loss coming against Antonio Margarito who was suspended for a year after his very next fight for illegal hand wraps.
2.) Mayweather has not fought ANY of the top 10 ranked Welterweights. None.
3.) This ranking was allegedly earned by outpointing a fighter who has never fought above the lightweight limit.
This isn't intended to upset Mayweather fans, just looking to see why people do or do not believe Mayweather should be ranked #2 at WW. I think an argument can be made for ranking him in the top 10 P4P overall, but this is different since it regards a specific weight class.
Please discuss, Poll to follow.
The official list: http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/welterweight/
1. Shane Mosley
Country: USA (Las Vegas, Nevada)
Record: 46-5-0 (39 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 137
Titles: WBA
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Country: USA (Las Vegas, Nevada)
Record: 40-0-0 (25 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: - | Weeks On List: 1
3. Miguel Cotto
Country: Puerto Rico
Record: 34-1-0 (27 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 147
Titles: WBO
4. Joshua Clottey
Country: Ghana
Record: 35-3-0 (20 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 129
5. Antonio Margarito
Country: Mexico (Tijuana)
Record: 37-6-0 (27 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 428
6. Andre Berto
Country: USA (Winter Haven, Fla.)
Record: 25-0-0 (19 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #6 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 66
Titles: WBC
7. Carlos Quintana
Country: Puerto Rico
Record: 26-2-0 (20 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #7 | Last Week: #6 | Weeks On List: 85
8. Luis Collazo
Country: USA (Queens, N.Y.)
Record: 29-4-0 (14 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #8 | Last Week: #7 | Weeks On List: 232
9. Isaac Hlatswayo
Country: South Africa (Soweto, Gauteng)
Record: 29-1-1 (10 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #9 | Last Week: #8 | Weeks On List: 54
10. Vyacheslav Senchenko
Country: Ukraine (Donetsk)
Record: 29-0-0 (20 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #10 | Last Week: #10 | Weeks On List: 21
bullshit boxing politics is all it is..
It likely comes down to Ring giving Mayweather inscentive to fight Mosley. Placing Mayweather second among the Welterweights means if the two fight, the winner would become lineal champion. I bet the Holy Trinity of Goldenboy(De La Hoya, Mosley, Hopkins) are very happy to have Mayweather ranked 2nd as it gives them their best chance of securing the next fight with Mayweather instead of a Top Rank fighter. Anyone think Oscar has the ability to influence where a fighter lands in the ranking?
Floyd Mayweather Jr. has not beaten a welterweight since 2006!!!
Floyd Senior actually has more welterweight fights on his record than Floyd Jr.. To be fair I'm unaware if those WW's were ranked at the time so it's unlikely a very significant piece of information. But it's definitely an interesting tidbit:
http://www.boxrec.com/search.php?status=all&cat=boxer&first_name=floyd++&last_name=mayweather&submit=Go
Hell no, he shouldn't rank above Cotto at Welterweight.
Cotto has fought nothing but the top opponets in his division ever since he got there ; Quintana, Judah, Mosley, Margarito, Clottey. And he's 4-1 against them.
Mayweather has only fought Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, and a blown up Super Featherweight at 147.
Skillwise he's years beyond Miguel, but as far as accomplishments go ; he's still playing catchup.
bullshit boxing politics is all it is..
I feel as though 9 times out of 10 Ring is closer to accurate than it is to inaccurate. There are of course exceptions from time to time. This is one of the more glaring examples of Ring being shady.
Who cares..
Would Floyd whip Miguels ass? YES
Would Floyd be a heavy favorite if they fought? YES
Thats the most important thing here fellas LOL :boxing::boxing:
nope. the most important thing is that floyd actually fight the fights... he can't get credit for victories that he hasn't fought yet.
18 imbeciles have voted so far in here
I haven't read one thorough explanation supporting Mayweather's WW ranking. As far as 18 votes is concerned, I think some of those people clicked the wrong option with the intent of actually supporting Cotto as #2. I could be wrong about that though.
last 3 fights..DLH too..lol
I think its complete bullshit...he claims to be the WW King but hasnt fought one in years..LOL
Easily we can say these WW's round up the top 5..Cotto,Shane,Clottey,Margarito, even Williams..
Cotto has Fought 3 of them.
Shane has fought 2 of them.
CLottey has fought 2of them.
Williams has fought 1 of them.
Floyd has fought...NONE...
How can the Welter Weight king be the WW King without fighting any of the top 5 guys who have been running the division for the last i dunno 3-6 years.
A lot of Floyd fans, and I'm not saying all of them feel as though they have to defend EVERYTHING regarding Mayweather. You can be a huge Mayweather fan and appreciate his fights without agreeing with his ranking. Just b/c you think Cotto should be ranked higher than Mayweather doesn't necessarily mean you are disrespectful or unappreciative of Mayweather's ability.
Who cares..
Would Floyd whip Miguels ass? YES
Would Floyd be a heavy favorite if they fought? YES
Thats the most important thing here fellas LOL :boxing::boxing:
Excellent post.
Who cares..
Would Floyd whip Miguels ass? YES
Would Floyd be a heavy favorite if they fought? YES
Thats the most important thing here fellas LOL :boxing::boxing:
I don't get why floyd is ranked above ssm p4p but below him in their division?
That's hard to wrap your head around, but somehow more reasonable than Cotto ranking below Mayweather. The rankings at top of WW are baffling.
What has mayweather done in the past 2 years at 147?
Beat Hatton and Marquez, right?
What has Cotto done?
Got destroyed by marg, beat Jennings and lost to clottey
you are a hater. at least cotto have the balls to get in the ring against the best WW
Mayweather...JMM, Fatton, DLH, baldomir??? LMAO
Cotto...KO Judah....UD Mosley...Fought Cheato....Clottey
What has mayweather done in the past 2 years at 147?
Beat Hatton and Marquez, right?
What has Cotto done?
Got destroyed by marg, beat Jennings and lost to clottey
How many legit WW has he fought at WW? Hatton: looked terrible at WW
JMM: never fought at that weight EVER and added the equivalent of a sack of flour in weight to even make the weight, ever added 15 or so lbs in weight before?
Mayweather shouldnt be ranked above Cotto in the WW listing becuase he doesnt fight there aften enough. Im just curious as to why people keep bringing up Margarito! He's a proven cheater, no doubt Mayweather is a first class dick but if he had been caught loading his gloves like Margarito they would have tried to erase every win he ever had and banned him for life!
14 people think Mayweather should be ranked above Cotto at Welterweight.. Lets get some more explanations for that, anyone?
Mayweather shouldnt be ranked above Cotto in the WW listing becuase he doesnt fight there aften enough. Im just curious as to why people keep bringing up Margarito! He's a proven cheater, no doubt Mayweather is a first class dick but if he had been caught loading his gloves like Margarito they would have tried to erase every win he ever had and banned him for life!
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