Explain how floyd weighing more than JMM produces the results we saw.

My point exactly. lets just disregard logic completely no wait barrera klitch would be way better match! It's about skill. So why even have weight divisions? Do you think Ivan Calderon can beat Valuev?

How did floyd weighing more than JMM dictate the outcome of the fight more than the fact that floyd is leagues better techinally, 5x faster and on a defense level JMM hasnt come close to seeing? The extra weight would have only benefitted floyd 2 ways, more power and more resilance to JMM punches. JMM wasnt knocked out so obviously PBF wasnt so big and strong he couldnt hang with him. JMM also didnt and a single meaningfull punch the entire fight. So you cant say PBF was so big he couldnt hurt him. Ive also seen a few idiots coment about the reach advantage. Obviously youve never seen a Paul williams fight if you think floyd had a gross reach advanatge. Why not ask Mayweather to test his courage and greatness to fight Paul William at middlleweight? Take note: Mayweather will only allowed to weigh in as a welterweight as what he did to Marquez. Thats will answer to the mystery. Its so funny you guys thinking that welterweight fighting a lightweight is meaningful. Now Flyodies answer my question!

How did floyd weighing more than JMM dictate the outcome of the fight more than the fact that floyd is leagues better techinally, 5x faster and on a defense level JMM hasnt come close to seeing? The extra weight would have only benefitted floyd 2 ways, more power and more resilance to JMM punches. JMM wasnt knocked out so obviously PBF wasnt so big and strong he couldnt hang with him. JMM also didnt and a single meaningfull punch the entire fight. So you cant say PBF was so big he couldnt hurt him. Ive also seen a few idiots coment about the reach advantage. Obviously youve never seen a Paul williams fight if you think floyd had a gross reach advanatge. Why not ask Mayweather to test his courage and greatness to fight Paul William at middlleweight? Take note: while he only allowed to weigh in as a welterweight. Thats the answer to the mystery. Its so funny you guys thinking that welterweight fighting a lightweight is meaningful. Now Flyodies answer my question!

Floyd wins because Joe is retired DUMDUM. Pit Calzaghes resume up against Floyds. No contest

Two sources make it fact? WOW. OMG

Don't bother asking, most of these fanboys have never boxed and have been watching boxing since Pac started making it big( fighting dehydrated aging Mexican's) My guess is they love New England also. Wagon jumpers no facts may apply to cyclical thinking. Joe Calzaghe - Floyd Mayweather, who wins? Its not about size or weight, but about skill.

For the Cocky challenged Floyd is Cocky like Ali. Leonard/Jordan are CONFIDENT. Big difference. DUMDUM http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2167951/highlights_of_michael_jordans_hall.html?cat=14 As a fan of the Detroit Bad Boy Pistons growing up, I always hated Michael Jordan, to be honest with you. Jordan was so good and he had a cocky attitude on the court because he knew he could back it up. http://www.masslive.com/basketball-hall-of-fame/index.ssf/2009/09/jordans_takingshots_hall_of_fa.html Allow me to answer the multiple e-mailers who asked why, alone among America's pundits, I did not take Michael Jordan to task for his rather inelegant Hall of Fame acceptance speech last week. Most said that in taking free shots at those he felt had done him wrong, he showed no class. My question is, when did we decide Michael Jordan had class? That is probably why his speech did not provoke me as it did others. I do not dispute the critics. A lot of what Jordan said was uncalled-for. I only say the image of Jordan as not just a great player but a class act was our creation, and not based much on tangible evidence. He's been cocky for 25 years. So why did we expect humility now? Shall I continue?

How did floyd weighing more than JMM dictate the outcome of the fight more than the fact that floyd is leagues better techinally, 5x faster and on a defense level JMM hasnt come close to seeing? The extra weight would have only benefitted floyd 2 ways, more power and more resilance to JMM punches. JMM wasnt knocked out so obviously PBF wasnt so big and strong he couldnt hang with him. JMM also didnt and a single meaningfull punch the entire fight. So you cant say PBF was so big he couldnt hurt him. Ive also seen a few idiots coment about the reach advantage. Obviously youve never seen a Paul williams fight if you think floyd had a gross reach advanatge. Because Floyd fought at the weight he was comfortable at and could perform, unlike Marquez. People will deny it because they think they're these Boxing gurus, but size indeed does matter in more ways than just being the heavier guy. Moving up in weight you have to consider if your power, speed, stamina, etc are all going to transfer. Not to take anything away from Floyd because he looked spectacular, but JMM loses to Mosley, Cotto, Floyd, Clottey, and Berto also. It just is what it is.

For the Cocky challenged Floyd is Cocky like Ali. Leonard/Jordan are CONFIDENT. Big difference. DUMDUM

Thought so Tom Flores lmao

marquez weight affect him his speed was not there anymore thats why mayweather easily dodge and block plus he outweight marquez with 15-20lbs

I'm not all over the place, you are. When people think of Ray Leonard who the hell says hes COCKY?? LMAO. When they think of Jordan he is showered with superlatives and what is said of him? GREAT, COMPETITIVE but cocky?? LMAO. The comment about the money throwing PISSES WHITE GUYS OFF and I have 1st hand knowledge of this from a major Police ball where it almost shut the place down. Secondly, Delahoya had a problem with Pacmns speed and that was the difference JUST like he had a problem with Floyds, speed, Pernells speed, Sugar Shane's speed (do you see a pattern? SPEED BOTHERS OSCAR). If you can fight you can fight PERIOD. As Leonard proved by going UP IN WEIGHT and crushing Donny Lalonde. As Leonard proved by going UP IN WEIGHT and shocking Hagler. As Roy Jones proved by going UP IN WEIGHT to win the Heavyweight belt. As Holyfield proved by going UP IN WEIGHT and winning the Heavyweight belt. Again, if you can fight you can fight PERIOD. Quit making excuses. Floyd is a great fighter so give him his due. Or if you don't want to do that then just bet against him and watch those pockets shrink. SIMPLE Originally Posted by scalaid6 View Post Michael Jordan and Sugar Ray are cocky like Floyd? Show me one clip of the aformentioned two guys making it rain with thousands of dollars. Show me those guys stuffing a bag full of money (1mill).. lol. :loser:

I'm not all over the place, you are. When people think of Ray Leonard who the hell says hes COCKY?? LMAO. When they think of Jordan he is showered with superlatives and what is said of him? GREAT, COMPETITIVE but cocky?? LMAO. The comment about the money throwing PISSES WHITE GUYS OFF and I have 1st hand knowledge of this from a major Police ball where it almost shut the place down. Secondly, Delahoya had a problem with Pacmns speed and that was the difference JUST like he had a problem with Floyds, speed, Pernells speed, Sugar Shane's speed (do you see a pattern? SPEED BOTHERS OSCAR). If you can fight you can fight PERIOD. As Leonard proved by going UP IN WEIGHT and crushing Donny Lalonde. As Leonard proved by going UP IN WEIGHT and shocking Hagler. As Roy Jones proved by going UP IN WEIGHT to win the Heavyweight belt. As Holyfield proved by going UP IN WEIGHT and winning the Heavyweight belt. Again, if you can fight you can fight PERIOD. Quit making excuses. Floyd is a great fighter so give him his due. Or if you don't want to do that then just bet against him and watch those pockets shrink. SIMPLE

Out of curiousity, why the username "Hugh Grant"? By the way, my wife has a great big fat cum-swallowing crush on the guy. Thats my name. What was the excuse when Floyd fought the bigger Delahoya? Did size matter when the smalller pacman fought Oscar? How bout when Mosley beat up Margarito? You guys are all friggin haters. COME ON Pernell witaker and SSM did better against DLH when DLH was in his prime. DLH werent that great when PBF fought him, but DLH still took him to a draw. PBF should have done what Pac did. Like for like. You cant say the DLH pac fought wasnt as good as the one PBF fought. You would need proof and we just havent got that apart from maybe dlh was weight drained. Listen to what it was like to fight Pac by DLH. He had never fought anyone with that kind of speed and movement.

There was no excuse, Floyd was only moving up one weight division, and fighting a fighter who's best days were obviously behind him. Yes, of course it mattered. Which is why De La Hoya had to come down to a weight where he hadn't fought in in several years, which was a task in its own. Both are welterweights fighting in the welterweight division, why is this even an example of the point you are trying to make? The guy is all over the place. According to him, being cocky means throwing money around. Welterweights fighting welterweights, thats a great concept, the sport of boxing should try it.

What was the excuse when Floyd fought the bigger Delahoya? There was no excuse, Floyd was only moving up one weight division, and fighting a fighter who's best days were obviously behind him. Did size matter when the smalller pacman fought Oscar? Yes, of course it mattered. Which is why De La Hoya had to come down to a weight where he hadn't fought in in several years, which was a task in its own. How bout when Mosley beat up Margarito? You guys are all friggin haters. COME ON Both are welterweights fighting in the welterweight division, why is this even an example of the point you are trying to make?

Michael Jordan and Sugar Ray are cocky like Floyd? Show me one clip of the aformentioned two guys making it rain with thousands of dollars. Show me those guys stuffing a bag full of money (1mill).. cock⋅y 1  /ˈkɒki/ Show Spelled Pronunciation Show IPA Use cocky in a Sentence See web results for cocky See images of cocky –adjective, cock⋅i⋅er, cock⋅i⋅est. arrogant; pertly self-assertive; conceited: He walked in with a cocky air. Nowhere does it say anything about money or throwing. Did you have a point of some kind?

What was the excuse when Floyd fought the bigger Delahoya? Did size matter when the smalller pacman fought Oscar? How bout when Mosley beat up Margarito? You guys are all friggin haters. COME ON

Out of curiousity, why the username "Hugh Grant"? By the way, my wife has a great big fat cum-swallowing crush on the guy.

Put simply if PBF went down 2 weight divisions we would have seen a different fight. Why didnt PBF fight Hatton at 140? This should explain it without me having to go into detail.