I've seen this before. How many people picked Gatti, Baldomir, Oscar, and Hatton to beat Floyd? Not only to win, but to knock him out! The answer is A LOT. As the fight draws nearer, more and more people are picking Marquez, one look at the topics on the first page will show this. There's even a JMM vs. Cotto thread!
What I want to say is that if and when JMM loses, I want all those who are picking him to give Floyd credit. It won't happen, but maybe SOME of you are decent enough to give the man his props after he defeats ANOTHER guy you think he will lose to.
Many of those who are saying JMM will win now were saying that he had no chance a few weeks ago. What made you change your mind? Is this solely based on your hate for Floyd and wanting to see him lose? If that's the case (and I bet my left nut that it is), you are extremely stupid boxing "fans" What kind of way to analize is that?
Saying Marquez will win is just a way for the fans to comfort themselves. There's nothing wrong with that. I myself am hoping for a Marquez victory. Go Marquez!!!
Is this simple; jmm has all the disadvanteges but he is one of the best boxers alive and has heart and he will give his all. To think he has no chance whatsoever makes u more stupid than what u are claiming others to be for picking jmm. This is boxing and upsets happen all the time and even tho Floyd is the obvious choice to win, he has NEVER fought anyone as good as jmm, not even close. No one here knows how the weight will affect jmm till tomorrow but if the weight actually benefits him making stronger and stays just as fast as he is and if he can accimilate floyds punches comfortably, well he has a very good shot.
So anyone who disagrees with the TS about Floyd winning is stupid...and he will have every right to call anyone here stupid, dumbass, etc. Get it right people
another dumbass who doesnt get it...
Faster = Slower than pac-man
Stronger = His pitty-pat wont mean sh**
Bigger = not a factor, JMM had 5 mnths to put on the LBS the right way
Younger = since when has that mattered?
Smarter = what makes him smarter? oh you mean because he has ducked lots of great opponents
More Accurate = only if you leave the plan and bum rush
Better Defensively = oh you mean hisa little shoulder roll LOL
Better Chin = WHO HAS HE REALLY FOUGHT??
Less vulnerable to cuts = with all his back pedaling i bet his heels cut easy!
Less battle-worn = again with 22+ months off im sure he is!
Fine. We'll talk about this again on Sunday.
hatton was getting his ass whooped since the opening bell.
and DLH didnt choose to stop throwing what seemed to be an effective jab...the Jab became ineffective b/c floyd made DLH stop "flickin" his jab.
Floyd took DLh's jab away. dontbe so naive and a hater
DUMB ASS when you stop using it youre right it is ineffective!!
I already told you why. Because Floyd is better, plain and simple.
READ BELOW!!!!
Faster = Slower than pac-man
Stronger = His pitty-pat wont mean sh**
Bigger = not a factor, JMM had 5 mnths to put on the LBS the right way
Younger = since when has that mattered?
Smarter = what makes him smarter? oh you mean because he has ducked lots of great opponents
More Accurate = only if you leave the plan and bum rush
Better Defensively = oh you mean hisa little shoulder roll LOL
Better Chin = WHO HAS HE REALLY FOUGHT??
Less vulnerable to cuts = with all his back pedaling i bet his heels cut easy!
Less battle-worn = again with 22+ months off im sure he is!
what more do you want?
Faster = Slower than pac-man
Stronger = His pitty-pat wont mean sh**
Bigger = not a factor, JMM had 5 mnths to put on the LBS the right way
Younger = since when has that mattered?
Smarter = what makes him smarter? oh you mean because he has ducked lots of great opponents
More Accurate = only if you leave the plan and bum rush
Better Defensively = oh you mean hisa little shoulder roll LOL
Better Chin = WHO HAS HE REALLY FOUGHT??
Less vulnerable to cuts = with all his back pedaling i bet his heels cut easy!
Less battle-worn = again with 22+ months off im sure he is!
So anyone who disagrees with the TS about Floyd winning is stupid...and he will have every right to call anyone here stupid, dumbass, etc. Get it right people
It can be. But there are downs, and the clock only runs if it's a live ball and the guy gets tackled in bounds.
So teams try and run out the clock when they have the lead, but if the other team has timeouts, they can call a timeout after every running play. So if they run the ball 3 times and don't get a 1st down without running out the clock, and they're not in Field Goal range, they have to punt the ball to the other team.
I know what you mean saying it sounds boring, but there's usually still some drama. Although I'm sure that was tough to understand if you're not familiar with the sport haha.
Yeah, I tried to get into it once, but I just didn't find it entertaining enough. The fact that play is CONSTANTLY stopped really tested my patience.
i Believe that JMM Has THE BEST SHOT AT AT AN AWESOME KO WIN!!!!!
like i said before. and nobody with sence answered. Give me THE REASONS WHY JMM IS SUCH AN UNDERDOG. it seems to me FMJ is playin with fire on this one.
I already told you why. Because Floyd is better, plain and simple.
Faster
Stronger
Bigger
Younger
Smarter
More Accurate
Better Defensively
Better Chin
Less vulnerable to cuts
Less battle-worn
what more do you want?
I see, thanks. By the way, that last paragraph makes it sound as if football can be extremely boring. It reminded me of the pre-shot clock era in basketball where teams would just hold on to the ball after building a lead.
It can be. But there are downs, and the clock only runs if it's a live ball and the guy gets tackled in bounds.
So teams try and run out the clock when they have the lead, but if the other team has timeouts, they can call a timeout after every running play. So if they run the ball 3 times and don't get a 1st down without running out the clock, and they're not in Field Goal range, they have to punt the ball to the other team.
I know what you mean saying it sounds boring, but there's usually still some drama. Although I'm sure that was tough to understand if you're not familiar with the sport haha.
I made a thread about this earlier for people to officially put their name down for a JMM upset.
I got nobody.
I'm all alone on this, I've bet all my points on it.
I hear yah tho man, but in watching the Hatton fight again, I think JMM has a good chance.
Hatton was landing a lot of hooks, jabs and rights on Floyd.
i Believe that JMM Has THE BEST SHOT AT AT AN AWESOME KO WIN!!!!!
like i said before. and nobody with sence answered. Give me THE REASONS WHY JMM IS SUCH AN UNDERDOG. it seems to me FMJ is playin with fire on this one.
I'm almost sure Marquez will lose,but I'm going for him anyway,I wouldn't bet on it,but I want him to win!!I believe u misunderstand this,gotta ride with the overmatched,weaker,smaller,slower man!!I want David to slay Goliath!!
Why the hell do I need to give floyd credit for fighting a lightweight in his mid-late 30's da hell is wrong with you? **** if im rooting him floyd aint gettin credit for that! Que carajo te pasa mamon
so cotto wont get credit for pacquiao right?
cotto will outweigh pac A LOT MORE than floyd will outweigh marquez
So if we want a fighter to win.. we should keep it to ourselves?? :rolleyes:
:rofl:
no, you should just not let your heart affect your head - not let favoritism cloud your judgement
Why the hell do I need to give floyd credit for fighting a lightweight in his mid-late 30's da hell is wrong with you? **** if im rooting him floyd aint gettin credit for that! Que carajo te pasa mamon
It's simple....it's the amount of games.
Every game in Football is important....cause there's only 16. So the probability of favorites losing are smaller.
Plus, in baseball and basketball, with 82 and 162 games to play, guys tend to take games off....it's just nowhere near as predictable.
In Football, the elite teams rarely lose games they should win. And playing the spread, the intervals in scoring help as well. In baseball the scoring goes 1 by 1, in basketball by 1,2,3, and occasionally 4. In football it's 2(rare), 3, 6(rare), and 7.
In basketball if a team is like a 2.5 point favorite, it's so hard to bet on that cause of how many garbage points get scored at the end of games with fouls and what not.
In football, teams start to run out the clock as soon as humanly possible, so stupid little things in the end of the game that effect the score are much more rare. Like if there's 30 seconds left in the game and the team is in field goal range, they'll take a knee and run out the clock. If a guy on the court is on a fast break with 30 seconds the go, he'll probably finish it, even if they're up by 20.
I see, thanks. By the way, that last paragraph makes it sound as if football can be extremely boring. It reminded me of the pre-shot clock era in basketball where teams would just hold on to the ball after building a lead.
Have you read ANY of the posts on this thread?!?!
I've said betting is STUPID and that just because you WANT a fighter to win doesn't mean you should say that he WILL win.
That's ALL I've been saying OVER AND OVER AND OVER because slow-ass fools like you don't seem to get it.
So if we want a fighter to win.. we should keep it to ourselves?? :rolleyes:
:rofl:
Who has FMJ fought that has really "Pushed" his abilities? his talent lies in the retreat and pot-shot technique. face it Hatton had a good few rounds until he left the plan. DLH was on the road to the win and he stopped flickin his jab!
come on you can do better than that! cant you?
That's what all the Floyd haters say. It's a testament to him that no one has been able to do this, just shows how good he is.
He can never win with you haters. It's either this "no one has pushed him" shit, but if he DOES fight someone who ends up pushing him, you'd just say "see? told y'all he wasn't that good, if even this bum gave him a tough fight."
Fighters are praised for either dominating with ease or losing tough fights in which they show heart, but Floyd is trashed for both. If he dominates, he's a cherry picker, if he struggles, he's overrated.
I used the word stupid because I believe that risking a cash loss is a very bad move. Of course, it can work out the other way, and the thrill of that possibility is what gambler's love, but I just don't consider it a very smart financial decision.
Please educate me - what's the difference between betting for football and basketball? I think gambling on NBA games is a pretty safe thing, because there are rarely any upsets, but I'd still never do it.
It's simple....it's the amount of games.
Every game in Football is important....cause there's only 16. So the probability of favorites losing are smaller.
Plus, in baseball and basketball, with 82 and 162 games to play, guys tend to take games off....it's just nowhere near as predictable.
In Football, the elite teams rarely lose games they should win. And playing the spread, the intervals in scoring help as well. In baseball the scoring goes 1 by 1, in basketball by 1,2,3, and occasionally 4. In football it's 2(rare), 3, 6(rare), and 7.
In basketball if a team is like a 2.5 point favorite, it's so hard to bet on that cause of how many garbage points get scored at the end of games with fouls and what not.
In football, teams start to run out the clock as soon as humanly possible, so stupid little things in the end of the game that effect the score are much more rare. Like if there's 30 seconds left in the game and the team is in field goal range, they'll take a knee and run out the clock. If a guy on the court is on a fast break with 30 seconds the go, he'll probably finish it, even if they're up by 20.