Lol at anyone thinking Ward beats Kessler

I've said all along that Ward is a tough fight for Kessler, and I'll leave it at that. co-sign. Wards performance win, lose, or draw will shock alot of people.

I'm not saying Wards a bum by any means but he's not going to beat Kessler. I will not hype us Kessler win but it's a good step to the real goal which is winning the tournament. I've said all along that Ward is a tough fight for Kessler, and I'll leave it at that.

I'm going to laugh after this fight when the winner's fans start hyping up their boy's win. Well, atleast at the ones who said the other guy is overrated, a B level fighter, a bum, etc. I'm not saying Wards a bum by any means but he's not going to beat Kessler. I will not hype us Kessler win but it's a good step to the real goal which is winning the tournament.

I'm going to laugh after this fight when the winner's fans start hyping up their boy's win. Well, atleast at the ones who said the other guy is overrated, a B level fighter, a bum, etc.

Let me guess youre another on this forum that knows nothing about boxing. Saying it took someone less rounds to get a victory shows what you know. So because Tsyzu got rid of Zab in 2 and it took Cotto 11, I guess that means Tsyzu would pummel Miguel in about 1 round then. I'm sure I know a hell of a lot more than you who only picks fighters because of their skin color. When comparing Ward fight versus Duddy's fight I was comparing their power. This guy was a true tomato can with a proven shit chin Ward was pounding on him since the opening bell and he couldn't get him out there. You're just riding a hype train Ward hasn't done shit yet a lot of the idiots here hype him up to be the next Roy Jones. He has a suspect chin, no power and a little above average speed, he's nothing special.

I can see Ward beating Kessler, the fast hands, the movement, the switch hitting will give Kessler problems and Kessler looked a bit sloppy against Perdomo but that could be the ring rust. I'm still picking Kessler to win though.

http://www.b---------24.com/2009/09/kessler-vs-ward-if-the-fight-takes-place-now-ward-wins/ On November 21st, Andre Ward (20-0, 13 KO’s) and World Boxing Association super middleweight champion Mikkel Kessler (42-1, 32 KO’s) will be meeting the first part of the Super Six tournament at the Oracle Arena, in Oakland, California. According to some, this bout will be matching the top two talents in the Super Six tournament and will possibly be showing the top eventual Super Six tourney finalists going at it. Whether that’s true or not is still unknown at this stage of the game, because both Kessler and Ward are still largely unproven as fighters. Kessler, 30, defeated Gusmyr Perdomo (16-3, 10 KO’s) last Saturday night in Denmark, stopping him in the 4th round in a performance that wasn’t even close to being impressive. Kessler was beaten to the punch in the first two rounds and showed generally poor defense during that time. Indeed, Kessler was hit often by Perdomo, a fighter that only two years before that had been easily handled by top super middleweight contender Dimitri Sartison. The fact that Perdomo was able to fight competitively with a fighter as hyped as Kessler isn’t a good sign for Kessler as he enters the beginning stages of the Super Six tournament. What this does suggest possibly is that Kessler isn’t as good as some people say he is and is ripe to be beaten again. Though much of his career, Kessler has had an easy time beating the mostly subpar opponents that exist in the super middleweight division. If one were to look at Kessler’s best wins you would have to consider the victories over Anthony Mundine, Librado Andrade, Markus Beyer, Eric Lucas, and Sartison. In each case, they are good fighters without fail, but in my view none of them are truly world class. They may be at the top of a watered down super middleweight division, but in terms of talent, I personally see them all as B level fighters. I suspect in every case, all of these fighters would come out on the losing end if they were to compete in the Super Six tournament in their primes and would likely lose every fight they entered. As such, I can’t say I’m impressed with any of Kessler’s wins at this stage and I see him largely as an unproven fighter. Instead of convincing me of Kessler’s talent, his last fight against Perdomo seemed to increase my doubts about Kessler’s overall talent. In his toughest fight of his career, a bout against Joe Calzaghe in November 2007, Kessler was easily handled by Calzaghe and beaten by a 12 round decision. Calzaghe didn’t do anything special in that fight other than go right at Kessler and pressure him as Perdomo was in their fight last Saturday. What Calzaghe showed was that Kessler doesn’t fight well when pressured and doesn’t look comfortable when he’s forced to fight it out at close range. Calzaghe pretty much overwhelmed Kessler with punches and kept him too busy defending himself to even think about getting his offense started. In that fight, Kessler showed that he doesn’t like to get hit and seems to crumble a bit when he’s hit repeatedly, even by a soft puncher like Calzaghe. For his part, Andre Ward looked very good in beating Shelby Pudwill last Saturday night by a 3rd round stoppage. Ward did it all, showing great hand speed, offensive power, defense and foot movement. At 25, Ward looked quite a bit better than Kessler. This wasn’t the first time that I’d seen Ward fight, as I’ve seen most of his fights since he turned pro in 2004 after winning a Gold Medal in the 2004 Olympics for the United States. What Ward showed was that he’s continuing to improve in every area – defense and offense. In fact, I’d venture to guess that Ward hasn’t yet hit his peak. Sadly, I can’t say the same thing for the 30-year-old Kessler, who appears to have peaked out in 2007 at the time that he was soundly beaten by Calzaghe. Some boxing experts would say that Ward hasn’t fought as good of competition as Kessler and will lose to him because of that. I think they’re wrong. Kessler’s opponents have in every case been badly flawed fighters who some respects didn’t deserve the high rankings that they were given at the time of his fights with them. I think Henry Buchanan, one of Ward’s recent victims in 2009, is in the same neighborhood as Kessler’s best opponents in terms of talent, and Ward easily handled Buchanan. Based on what I’ve seen of both Ward and Kessler, not just this past weekend, I’d say that Ward wins this fight with ease. Kessler doesn’t have the work rate, the defense or the hand speed to compete with Ward and would end up getting a boxing lesson worse than the one that he got against Calzaghe. I think Kessler is a great fighter, maybe the number #2 or #3 fighter in the entire Super Six tournament, but I think he’s way overrated as a fighter. He’s very basic – jab, left right combination. That kind of style may work against European fodder, but I can’t see it working for Kessler against a top talent like Ward. Prediction: Ward by lopsided 12 round decision. 100 % agree with this article. Not saying Ward will dominate but I do believe he has a great shot to win. Kessler will be exposed as a B Class fighter win lose or draw against Ward.

In all seriousness I can't see why anyone thinks Ward can beat Kessler at this point.....what has he done to make anyone think he can compete at the top level of the SMW division? I am not saying for certain that he can't, he has fast hands and feet but thus far has proved to me he doesn't have power and we have no idea how good a punch he takes. Kessler is proven against good opposition, even the loss to Joe C. proves more about Kessler than Ward because of how competitive of a fight it turned out to be. guess that is why the have to actually fight the fights in the ring.

Agree 100% Green K. I'm a Kessler fan, and he's in for a tough fight, but one he can win. appreciated

have to agree with you there, but its actually always like that..and when people make threads like this it shows their actual fear that their fighter will lose..why cant people just be happy this tournaments happening and all these talents are colliding..why would you want your fighter to be in a onesided fight like kessler fans are saying? people are like "kessler will destroy ward cause hes an overrated bum" "froch will destroy dirrell because hes an overrated bum" and if they were to win it would be "kessler beat a great fighter in ward and " "froch beat a great fighter in dirrell" i mean cmon. if you think kessler is in an easy fight or froch is in an easy fight your in for a shock because dirrell and ward have all the skills to expose kessler and froch's flaws Agree 100% Green K. I'm a Kessler fan, and he's in for a tough fight, but one he can win.

The racial overtones on this board today is out of control.have to agree with you there, but its actually always like that..and when people make threads like this it shows their actual fear that their fighter will lose..why cant people just be happy this tournaments happening and all these talents are colliding..why would you want your fighter to be in a onesided fight like kessler fans are saying? people are like "kessler will destroy ward cause hes an overrated bum" "froch will destroy dirrell because hes an overrated bum" and if they were to win it would be "kessler beat a great fighter in ward and " "froch beat a great fighter in dirrell" i mean cmon. if you think kessler is in an easy fight or froch is in an easy fight your in for a shock because dirrell and ward have all the skills to expose kessler and froch's flaws

The racial overtones on this board today is out of control.

I didn't realize the rules of boxing have changed and the only way to win is by KO, because this entire time I thought Ward just might have a chance at out-boxing Kessler. hmmmmmmmmmmm Oyeah he will , errbody wants a slug fest , its boxing not mma

Let me guess youre another on this forum that knows nothing about boxing. Saying it took someone less rounds to get a victory shows what you know. So because Tsyzu got rid of Zab in 2 and it took Cotto 11, I guess that means Tsyzu would pummel Miguel in about 1 round then. you will be so upset if ward loses wont you which by the way kid,is pretty likely

http://www.b---------24.com/2009/09/kessler-vs-ward-if-the-fight-takes-place-now-ward-wins/ On November 21st, Andre Ward (20-0, 13 KO’s) and World Boxing Association super middleweight champion Mikkel Kessler (42-1, 32 KO’s) will be meeting the first part of the Super Six tournament at the Oracle Arena, in Oakland, California. According to some, this bout will be matching the top two talents in the Super Six tournament and will possibly be showing the top eventual Super Six tourney finalists going at it. Whether that’s true or not is still unknown at this stage of the game, because both Kessler and Ward are still largely unproven as fighters. Kessler, 30, defeated Gusmyr Perdomo (16-3, 10 KO’s) last Saturday night in Denmark, stopping him in the 4th round in a performance that wasn’t even close to being impressive. Kessler was beaten to the punch in the first two rounds and showed generally poor defense during that time. Indeed, Kessler was hit often by Perdomo, a fighter that only two years before that had been easily handled by top super middleweight contender Dimitri Sartison. The fact that Perdomo was able to fight competitively with a fighter as hyped as Kessler isn’t a good sign for Kessler as he enters the beginning stages of the Super Six tournament. What this does suggest possibly is that Kessler isn’t as good as some people say he is and is ripe to be beaten again. Though much of his career, Kessler has had an easy time beating the mostly subpar opponents that exist in the super middleweight division. If one were to look at Kessler’s best wins you would have to consider the victories over Anthony Mundine, Librado Andrade, Markus Beyer, Eric Lucas, and Sartison. In each case, they are good fighters without fail, but in my view none of them are truly world class. They may be at the top of a watered down super middleweight division, but in terms of talent, I personally see them all as B level fighters. I suspect in every case, all of these fighters would come out on the losing end if they were to compete in the Super Six tournament in their primes and would likely lose every fight they entered. As such, I can’t say I’m impressed with any of Kessler’s wins at this stage and I see him largely as an unproven fighter. Instead of convincing me of Kessler’s talent, his last fight against Perdomo seemed to increase my doubts about Kessler’s overall talent. In his toughest fight of his career, a bout against Joe Calzaghe in November 2007, Kessler was easily handled by Calzaghe and beaten by a 12 round decision. Calzaghe didn’t do anything special in that fight other than go right at Kessler and pressure him as Perdomo was in their fight last Saturday. What Calzaghe showed was that Kessler doesn’t fight well when pressured and doesn’t look comfortable when he’s forced to fight it out at close range. Calzaghe pretty much overwhelmed Kessler with punches and kept him too busy defending himself to even think about getting his offense started. In that fight, Kessler showed that he doesn’t like to get hit and seems to crumble a bit when he’s hit repeatedly, even by a soft puncher like Calzaghe. For his part, Andre Ward looked very good in beating Shelby Pudwill last Saturday night by a 3rd round stoppage. Ward did it all, showing great hand speed, offensive power, defense and foot movement. At 25, Ward looked quite a bit better than Kessler. This wasn’t the first time that I’d seen Ward fight, as I’ve seen most of his fights since he turned pro in 2004 after winning a Gold Medal in the 2004 Olympics for the United States. What Ward showed was that he’s continuing to improve in every area – defense and offense. In fact, I’d venture to guess that Ward hasn’t yet hit his peak. Sadly, I can’t say the same thing for the 30-year-old Kessler, who appears to have peaked out in 2007 at the time that he was soundly beaten by Calzaghe. Some boxing experts would say that Ward hasn’t fought as good of competition as Kessler and will lose to him because of that. I think they’re wrong. Kessler’s opponents have in every case been badly flawed fighters who some respects didn’t deserve the high rankings that they were given at the time of his fights with them. I think Henry Buchanan, one of Ward’s recent victims in 2009, is in the same neighborhood as Kessler’s best opponents in terms of talent, and Ward easily handled Buchanan. Based on what I’ve seen of both Ward and Kessler, not just this past weekend, I’d say that Ward wins this fight with ease. Kessler doesn’t have the work rate, the defense or the hand speed to compete with Ward and would end up getting a boxing lesson worse than the one that he got against Calzaghe. I think Kessler is a great fighter, maybe the number #2 or #3 fighter in the entire Super Six tournament, but I think he’s way overrated as a fighter. He’s very basic – jab, left right combination. That kind of style may work against European fodder, but I can’t see it working for Kessler against a top talent like Ward. Prediction: Ward by lopsided 12 round decision.

Kessler is the obvious favorite. But I would not count out Ward. The excuse of a fighter "not having any noteable wins" is be becoming overrated. At some point in their career, they all experienced that. One of the Andres will be in the finals.

I laugh at all of you. Its funny how quickly you change your tune about Ward after last Saturday after seeing Kessler not show you what you wanted. I should go back and find all of your comments about how he has no chance. Dont jump on the bandwagon now, the door is already closed. Did you read the thread retard, Ward doesn't have a chance he's going to get his ass beat. It took him three rounds to do what John Duddy did in just one.

ward has it all but power. kessler will be outboxed and exposed. i don't see why he is rated so highly, he's just an ordinary fighter with basic skills and a robot style of fighting.

I laugh at all of you. Its funny how quickly you change your tune about Ward after last Saturday after seeing Kessler not show you what you wanted. I should go back and find all of your comments about how he has no chance. Dont jump on the bandwagon now, the door is already closed. The people who jumped ship had probably never seen Kessler fight and went on the rep and hype he got. Fukk 'em, we don't need them.

why is this an LOL thread? Ward will surprise ALOT of you all when he fights Kessler. I like Ward in this fight. If you did a poll now, It'd probably be around 60-40 Kessler. I like Kessler, but Ward will be dangerous throughout.