Roach...."His (Pac's) advisors are telling him that Miguel Cotto is done, he is finished, and that’s pure bullcrap. I have been watching countless hours again and again of Cotto’s past fights. He nullified Shane Mosley’s speed and that’s Manny’s greatest asset also, he has proven he knows how to deal with speed and everyone around Manny is taking the fight way too lightly".
Roach...."Sure he (Cotto) didn’t look good in the Margarito fight, but we all know that there were probably other influences in that fight. As for the Clottey fight, who looks good fighting Clottey? Cotto had a bad cut over his eye and took some big shots from Clottey, yet he did not go down and kept slugging away and won the decision. That shows me something, Cotto knows this is his biggest fight from a promotional sense he also knows that he can erase the memory of Margarito with a victory over Manny".
2-1 is a joke though.
no way should pac be favored 2-1.
it should close to straight up.
vegas just wants bets on the lesser known guy from the casual fans. :nonono:
yea.. I'm gonna put my money on Cotto to win.. i really think he might pull this one out...
LOL!!! Pink has been cool with me before (he gave me some e-money) so I know he is legit...it is just all this Pac/Cotto trash talking that gets some of us all fvcking fueled and pissed n sh!t!!!!
lol.. he's cool.. i like his posts.. most of the time they are hilarious.. i can always check out what he's talking about for a good laugh.. lol .. its hilarious when he goes off on some people and kicks them in the nuts.. :nutkick: PROPS PINK !! PROPS!! lol
It's funny how the closer the fight gets here the gap on pacquiao winning gets smaller. More people are looking at cotto WELTERWEIGHT fights and the opponents of each and now see the difference. Not good for me. I wanted 4-1 or 6-1 odds so i can pay off my car. C'mon PEOPLE...Isn't Cotto damaged goods? LOL
lmao.. i was wondering why he was being so nice.. kinda wierd.. reminded me of the non-shit talking floyd im not used to on 24/7 lmao :lol1:
LOL!!! Pink has been cool with me before (he gave me some e-money) so I know he is legit...it is just all this Pac/Cotto trash talking that gets some of us all fvcking fueled and pissed n sh!t!!!!
Ok...so you're back to yourself now!?
lmao.. i was wondering why he was being so nice.. kinda wierd.. reminded me of the non-shit talking floyd im not used to on 24/7 lmao :lol1:
3. i think floyd retires if he beats pac. more than likely pac will be next.
If he beats JMM, Pac, declares himself the best and then retires I will be pissed. Funny thing is I can see it happening. But in my mind Mayweather isn't an all time great until he beats the top welters which he has avoided for so long. Marg, Cotto and Mosley would all give him more problems than Marquez or Pac in my opinion.
1. floyd is NOT the most skilled fighter of all time. quit smoking crack.
2. floyd rarely crushes anyone so stfu.
3. skills don't get you respect. if he hadn't blatantly ducked a few fighters that fans wanted to see him fight maybe he'd get more respect.
1. ONE of the most skilled fighters. And yes he is, he's brilliant in defense and his attack is executed perfectly most of the time. He would give any fighter from 140-147 trouble from any era.
2. Gatti, Judah, Hatton. Not crushed as in KO, crushed by Floyd's skills.
3. Agree there, but there's still time for him. Fights with Cotto, Mosley and Pacman will go along way to redeeming his resume after a few years of dodging welters
1. floyd is NOT the most skilled fighter of all time. quit smoking crack.
2. floyd rarely crushes anyone so stfu.
3. skills don't get you respect. if he hadn't blatantly ducked a few fighters that fans wanted to see him fight maybe he'd get more respect.
Ok...so you're back to yourself now!?
i have a feeling pac will win this and EVERYONE is gonna hype him up against mayweather and then pac will fall on his face against mayweather.
People underestimate Floyd's skills because he hasn't ever fought the big welters. But Floyd really is one of the most skilled fighters of all time. I would bet my house on him crushing Pac just like he did to another fast guy, Zab Judah. He's just way to good and its a shame that he hasn't fought the people that would earn him the respect he deserves
i have a feeling pac will win this and EVERYONE is gonna hype him up against mayweather and then pac will fall on his face against mayweather.
i know it's a 50/50 fight but for some reason i'm not worried pac will lose against cotto.
i try to think of cotto win and i just can't picture it though i know there's a good chance pac will lose.
Good honest post man! Why do you think Pac will fail against May? Many people think that Pac is the only opponent that could actually beat May!
If anyone's playing head games without saying much, it's Cotto.
Regardless of what Roach has said in the past about Pac taking Cotto out, it's all head games. But I truly believe he's genuinely worried this time around. The reports coming out of Cotto's camp about him being in the best shape of his career according to his conditioning coach has gotta be worrying Freddie as that is their main focus on how to stop Cotto. He's already letting the cat out the bag on how Cotto can handle speed fighters and how resilient he is, that's more of a confidence booster more than playing head games on the part of Freddie Roach. Those are usually things you keep within the camp.
Tellin ya'll, after Nov 15th...a lot of you are going to be believers again...trust.
After seeing the Pac vs Hamed power poll I think pacfans are deluded beyond all sense of reality. I'm not sure they'll jump ship but I guarentee there will be 4 million excuses if Cotto wins.
This is BS...there will always be 4 million excuses.
Pac's people are buying into the hype, they'll be the first to jump ship after Nov. 14.
After seeing the Pac vs Hamed power poll I think pacfans are deluded beyond all sense of reality. I'm not sure they'll jump ship but I guarentee there will be 4 million excuses if Cotto wins.
Pac's people are buying into the hype, they'll be the first to jump ship after Nov. 14.
I think Roach will want to train Cotto after he knocks Pac the fuk out.
you know.. for some odd reasoni've been thinking the same thing too.. win or loose i think Cotto would go with Roach..
I'm still upset that he hasnt gotten a new trainer... :nonono:
pac's gonna win , d-om.
i just sense it.
Yeah if it go's to the cards it is over for Cotto, but if he can break him down like he usually does his opponents then there is no stopping Pac's downfall.
Pac's people are buying into the hype, they'll be the first to jump ship after Nov. 14.
I think Roach will want to train Cotto after he knocks Pac the fuk out.
Yeah I agree. Berto is the perfect fight for Shane. Very winnable fight, he will look good fighting Berto and he gets to unify the belts. I'm just not sure Berto's promoters want him stepping up just yet. However if Berto could sneak a win then it would do wonders for his career which is falling away after he got beat by an old man(unofficially)
Then if Shane has the belts, is ranked number 1 then surely he can get a big fight. If he still doesn't then boxing is in a worse state than I thought.
they would have no choice but to give him a big money payday.. Floyd gets off on saying he is the man at welterweight.. so he's gonna want the titles... Cotto the same.. he feels like Margs cheated him out of money and the tittle.. they both are gonna go for shane if he can Unify.. it owuld make their job easier than to fight seperate fights.. just go for the kill after 1 man. .Shane..