I know Im in the straight minority here but Ill say it all day & night. I really think people are sleeping on Berto strictly because the guys he's been fighting are Southpaws. A ton of guys struggle against Southpaws no matter what level theyre on. However, if you put him in the ring right now with a righty, I think he looks night & day. I know everyone will say that Clottey is the harder fight and it isnt even close but I totally disagree. There is a reason why Cotto & Shane havent been in a rush to fight this kid. I still think his trainer will probably keep him from being super elite but I bet anything that he gives Cotto or Mosley hell right now. Thats why I think Mosley will go with Clottey. Clottey is much easier for Mosley as he doesnt have enough speed and he puts on the muffs too much. He also will always be missing something.
Berto will be young, hungery, and throwing lighting combos. Mosley doesnt want to deal with that right now. If he didnt have Naz in his corner then I would pick Berto all day but Naz makes Mosley the favorite and it may make Mosley kill him because Naz is 10x better than Berto's trainer. Just straight up man for man though, I think Berto gives Mosley hell and I would easily pick him over Cotto right now, easily. Seriously though, people need to stop jumping to conclusions when guys struggle with Southpaws. Its going to happened in most cases
clottey easy........berto's compactness and quickness would probably give mosley trouble early because of his crap defense, but berto has shit stamina and cant take it to the body...mosley by late KO.....
mosley would outwork clottey.....
I say its Clottey, but Shane would beat him easily imo.
1. Winky was an active fighter who put pressure on his oppenents. Ask Vargas, Tito, Taylor, and Mosley about that. People forget how much better Mosley did in the rematch. I believe all the cards were 7-5.
2. Clottey has trouble with speed. Watch the Judah fight before he quit. Look at all the flush shot Judah landed earlier. He was also turning Clottey around and circling him.
3. Clottey isn't active enough and only fight in burst if you ask me. Shane will be working his body until he opens up. That's when that left hook will connect.
Its also funny how some won't give Mosley credit for beating Margo. Even with gloves he wouldn't have landed anything. Cotto fought the wrong fight against Margo. Mosley fought the wrong fight against Cotto. I just wish it was Mosley vs Cotto 2 and Pac vs JMM 3 though
for the last time clottey dont have the killer in him to beat somebody like shane. berto is hungrier and just str8 better than clottey. if they were to fight i bet berto ud clottey.
People need to remember that Berto barely survived that journeyman Cosme Rivera who clipped him with an uppercut. Angulo and Judah completely obliterated Rivera and Berto looked suspect and went the distance against him. I think Berto has a higher work rate than Clottey, but that what will his work rate be like when he has to fight a hard puncher? The constant clinching that Berto does is bullshit. And it is something that his own trainer is encouraging him to do. Mosley clinches a lot too, but at least it isn't the type of "Dont hit me" type clinching that Berto does all the time.
I know Im in the straight minority here but Ill say it all day & night. I really think people are sleeping on Berto strictly because the guys he's been fighting are Southpaws. A ton of guys struggle against Southpaws no matter what level theyre on. However, if you put him in the ring right now with a righty, I think he looks night & day. I know everyone will say that Clottey is the harder fight and it isnt even close but I totally disagree. There is a reason why Cotto & Shane havent been in a rush to fight this kid. I still think his trainer will probably keep him from being super elite but I bet anything that he gives Cotto or Mosley hell right now. Thats why I think Mosley will go with Clottey. Clottey is much easier for Mosley as he doesnt have enough speed and he puts on the muffs too much. He also will always be missing something.
Berto will be young, hungery, and throwing lighting combos. Mosley doesnt want to deal with that right now. If he didnt have Naz in his corner then I would pick Berto all day but Naz makes Mosley the favorite and it may make Mosley kill him because Naz is 10x better than Berto's trainer. Just straight up man for man though, I think Berto gives Mosley hell and I would easily pick him over Cotto right now, easily. Seriously though, people need to stop jumping to conclusions when guys struggle with Southpaws. Its going to happened in most cases
berto is a hypejob. berto barely survived collazo and owes him a rematch. mosley convincingly decisioned collazo.
I know Im in the straight minority here but Ill say it all day & night. I really think people are sleeping on Berto strictly because the guys he's been fighting are Southpaws. A ton of guys struggle against Southpaws no matter what level theyre on. However, if you put him in the ring right now with a righty, I think he looks night & day. I know everyone will say that Clottey is the harder fight and it isnt even close but I totally disagree. There is a reason why Cotto & Shane havent been in a rush to fight this kid. I still think his trainer will probably keep him from being super elite but I bet anything that he gives Cotto or Mosley hell right now. Thats why I think Mosley will go with Clottey. Clottey is much easier for Mosley as he doesnt have enough speed and he puts on the muffs too much. He also will always be missing something.
Berto will be young, hungery, and throwing lighting combos. Mosley doesnt want to deal with that right now. If he didnt have Naz in his corner then I would pick Berto all day but Naz makes Mosley the favorite and it may make Mosley kill him because Naz is 10x better than Berto's trainer. Just straight up man for man though, I think Berto gives Mosley hell and I would easily pick him over Cotto right now, easily. Seriously though, people need to stop jumping to conclusions when guys struggle with Southpaws. Its going to happened in most cases
Berto would be tougher because of his speed and boxing ability. Shane could beat Clottey based on sheer agression. Clottey takes too many breaks.
If you're asking which is harder RIGHT NOW i'd say clottey. he's got more experience and he's a good boxer/puncher who can mix it up if need be. title or no title berto is still too green for someone like mosley.
if mosley fought berto i'd expect him to win via UD.
mosley still wouldnt have the hardest time in the world beating clottey either though. maybe a close UD or clear cut SD.
Knockouts? possible but i think its more likely for mosley to decision either of them.
I think the fight for mosley and cotto right now are each other. THATS who they should be fighting. since all of the margarito controversey and the fact mosley beat him and cotto beat mosley i think its safe to say the top WW is the product of the winner of a rematch.
thats right i said it.
the first fight was close so im assuming a second fight will leave no open questions. if cotto wins it shows he's the top WW and if mosley defeats him in a rematch is opens the door for a trilogy to give the WW a clear cut top fighter.
I don't think it's questionable. Clottey is a lot bigger than Mosley and I think Clottey would beat Mosley at this stage. agreed i hope ssm goes with clottey.
The only thing that Berto probably has over Clottey is power. They both are inconsistent with their offense, and Berto's defense and chin are not as half as good as Clottey's. I think Clottey would be the tougher fight.
I honestly think they both beat SSM, I'm not convinced that SSM is atop like others who are praising his win over Margarito. Margarito was softened up by both Cotto and lack of bricks.
SSM is more like his fight with Mayorga. I think both fighters will give Mosley the business. I think CLottey will give him a bigger beatdown due to experience over Berto