Bottom line these guys will have to actually KO/TKO Pacman/PBF to come out with a W. Their is to much money at stake from all angles in a PBF VS PACMAN fight (Golden Boy/PBF/PAC/HBO/Top Rank/Advertisers ie sponsors/WBC/WBO)
Don't cry or deny this fact. I understand that boxing is a business and that this has happened before, and it will continue to happen even after you and i pass away. This is no way an excuse to said fighters. (I have no bias towards any of these elite fighters since i am fan of boxing, and this includes all said fighters).
The best solution would be a scenario where both fights end in a KO/TKO scenario.
Cotto is 1/2 inch taller than Pac.
Cmon guy, u know cotto has a size advantage on pac. Cotto is very compact but he's a lot stronger and bigger than pac.
Yeah, FORMER, so it holds no relevance now.
Like I've posted before: 106 is just a number that I'm using as hyperbole. That # represents the fact that cotto is a much bigger and stronger guy than pac.
Pac is not just another 140 lber though, he is the P4P #1 and beat the king at 140 in his last fight.
So what, pac aint no WW and cotto only struggles against huge WWs. Cotto has smashed all the boxers that were smaller than him.
Cotto can easily lose this fight, and there will be no shame in it for him.
C'mon guy, cotto has no excuse losing to a midget. Cotto has the size advantage, the strength advantage, the power advantage. Cotto aint no slouch in the speed department. Cotto has great timing. Cotto has good skills.
The only deficiency cotto has is his spotty defense and his stamina, but that should not be a problem since cotto should be able to walk thru all of pac's power shots and the fight shouldn't even go past the 6th round.
If cotto can't KO pac, he will be a disgrace to puerto rico.
I said FORMER 106 lber didn't I?
That's not even my point. Bottomline, cotto has no business losing to anyone 140 lbs and under. Cotto should be able to KO anyone 140 lbs and under with ease. If he can't then he needs to retire. So bigger guys have not lost to smaller guys? lol
It's like me saying that the #1 P4P SHOULD NOT LOSE TO A GUY THAT GOT BEAT UP BY MARGARITO.
You do realize Floyd was a 106 pounder at one point in the amateurs, right? So, I want you to go on a mission now defending Floyd from every hater that talks shit about the Baldomir fight. I mean how can someone expect a former 106 pounder to stand and trade with a guy that weighed between 154-160 on fight night? Floyd beat him 12-0. Of course, this is going to fly way over your nuthugging head.
U don't get the point. Your getting all worked up over the number instead of what it represents. The point flew right over your nuthugging head. I'm using 106 lbs as hyperbole.
As I've posted already, Bottomline, cotto better KO every boxer 140 lbs and under including pac. If he can't he should retire cause there will be real WWs for cotto to fight after this payday.
Cotto better KO pac. If cotto can't KO a former 106 lber, he needs to quit boxing. I mean pac has been stopped 2x by nobodies and gotten outboxed by morales. If cotto, with his size advantage and skill advantage can't KO pac, he really needs to consider retirement.
Jmm on the other hand is screwed.
Yeah, but one thing about Morales is that he has or had enough good speed to match with Pacquiao own speed. Plus morales is also a good puncher and has a better stamina than Cotto. Those two elements Being speed and stamina are questionable for Cotto when he goes up against Pacquiao. Pacquiao will be looking to fight from a distance and of course if he sees an opening charge in.
If Cotto can't get to him early he might be in trouble.
I said FORMER 106 lber didn't I?
That's not even my point. Bottomline, cotto has no business losing to anyone 140 lbs and under. Cotto should be able to KO anyone 140 lbs and under with ease. If he can't then he needs to retire.
Yeah, FORMER, so it holds no relevance now.
Pac is not just another 140 lber though, he is the P4P #1 and beat the king at 140 in his last fight.
Cotto can easily lose this fight, and there will be no shame in it for him.
I said FORMER 106 lber didn't I?
That's not even my point. Bottomline, cotto has no business losing to anyone 140 lbs and under. Cotto should be able to KO anyone 140 lbs and under with ease. If he can't then he needs to retire.
Yeah, FORMER, so it holds no relevance now.
Pac is not just another 140 lber though, he is the P4P #1 and beat the king at 140 in his last fight.
Cotto can easily lose this fight, and there will be no shame in it for him.
Bottom line these guys will have to actually KO/TKO Pacman/PBF to come out with a W. Their is to much money at stake from all angles in a PBF VS PACMAN fight (Golden Boy/PBF/PAC/HBO/Top Rank/Advertisers ie sponsors/WBC/WBO)
Don't cry or deny this fact. I understand that boxing is a business and that this has happened before, and it will continue to happen even after you and i pass away. This is no way an excuse to said fighters. (I have no bias towards any of these elite fighters since i am fan of boxing, and this includes all said fighters).
The best solution would be a scenario where both fights end in a KO/TKO scenario.
co-sign.......told this EXACT same shit to my brother yesterday......the EXACT same shit :lol1:......good post!!
NEWS FLASH: Pacquiao isn't 106 lbs anymore, and hasn't been for 14 years. He is now a natural 140 lber and would beat all the guys at the weight.
I said FORMER 106 lber didn't I?
Fighting a division above his natural weight, against a guy with measurements not much bigger than himself shouldn't be too difficult for the P4P #1.
That's not even my point. Bottomline, cotto has no business losing to anyone 140 lbs and under. Cotto should be able to KO anyone 140 lbs and under with ease. If he can't then he needs to retire.
i agree cotto and jmm need ko/tko's
Jmm is screwed, but does cotto really have an excuse for not KOing pac???
Also, cotto stans are the last mofos to cry about hometown gift decisions.
2ndly, vegas is neutral territory.
U really believe that?
Why? pac is moving up in weight to fight a bigger opponent. Cotto will have a 10+ lbs advantage on pac. Pac has been stopped by 2 nobodies and outboxed by morales. If cotto can't stop pac he needs to retire. It will be too shameful for cotto to continue with his career, losing to a former 106 lber.
What do u expect? U want a former 106 lber to stand and trade with a guy that can weigh as much as 160 lbs on fight night??? COME ON!!!!!
NEWS FLASH: Pacquiao isn't 106 lbs anymore, and hasn't been for 14 years. He is now a natural 140 lber and would beat all the guys at the weight. Fighting 5 lbs above his natural weight, against a guy with measurements not much bigger than himself shouldn't be too difficult for the P4P #1.
This is why what happened with the judges in the Malignaggi fight is horrible, because now if either of these fights is a close win in favor of either Pac or Floyd, people are going to scream controversy. It probably won't matter to the obsessed Cotto or Marquez fans if Pac or Floyd deserved to win, a close fight not their way will automatically be a robbery, the way people still try to claim Pac-JMM 2 was.
Bottom line these guys will have to actually KO/TKO Pacman/PBF to come out with a W. Their is to much money at stake from all angles in a PBF VS PACMAN fight (Golden Boy/PBF/PAC/HBO/Top Rank/Advertisers ie sponsors/WBC/WBO)
Don't cry or deny this fact. I understand that boxing is a business and that this has happened before, and it will continue to happen even after you and i pass away. This is no way an excuse to said fighters. (I have no bias towards any of these elite fighters since i am fan of boxing, and this includes all said fighters).
The best solution would be a scenario where both fights end in a KO/TKO scenario.
i agree cotto and jmm need ko/tko's
Isn't Pacquiao the favorite? By 2-1?
U really believe that?
Shouldn't HE win or retire?
Why? pac is moving up in weight to fight a bigger opponent. Cotto will have a 10+ lbs advantage on pac. Pac has been stopped by 2 nobodies and outboxed by morales. If cotto can't stop pac he needs to retire. It will be too shameful for cotto to continue with his career, losing to a former 106 lber.
Also, will the great pacman run or fight?
What do u expect? U want a former 106 lber to stand and trade with a guy that can weigh as much as 160 lbs on fight night??? COME ON!!!!!
Cotto better KO pac. If cotto can't KO a former 106 lber, he needs to quit boxing. I mean pac has been stopped 2x by nobodies and gotten outboxed by morales. If cotto, with his size advantage and skill advantage can't KO pac, he really needs to consider retirement.
Jmm on the other hand is screwed.
Isn't Pacquiao the favorite? By 2-1? Shouldn't HE win or retire? Also, will the great pacman run or fight?
The two winners need to face off, regardless of who they are. They are all big, big money fights:
Cotto v Mayweather - Long time overdue. Should be happening now.
Cotto v JMM - The most intriguing match up. The whole Pueto-Rico v Mexico makes this one a big success.
Pac v PBF - A fight a lot of people want to see. However, I'd rather see:
JMM v Pac III - An absolute must before each retires. Should be happening now.
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