I never compared the pay in the UFC to other organizations. I was stating the reasons why UFC fighters earn smaller fight purses than top tier boxers.
And while I'm on that point, you do realize how small of a percentage of boxers are actually making that kind of money right ? Probably 2% of all professional boxers are making these multi-million dollar purses.
You shouldn't speak on figures you pull out of your ass. And besides...
What's with the 'your' ?
Am I the representative for the UFC ? Are you boxing's official spokesman ?
Stop talking like you represent anything other than yourself. I'm a huge boxing fan, and have been all my life. I also like MMA. So what ?
I still disagree.
Mid-level and local level fighters in boxing and MMA are making comprable purses.
That 2% of boxing's elite that are making that kind of money make up a small fraction of what you're referring to.
One thing that you can say about the UFC's salaries is that they give bonuses based on performance. Fight of the night, submission of the night, KO of the night.
I can't believe there are people backing handing out these million-dollar purses, when those million dollar purses are one of the main reasons why the sport is in the state that its' in.
In short, go search up the numbers. You will see Brock earned 500k to show, and 500k to beat Herring. 3rd fight in MMA. Go look at Anderson, he makes 240k consistently as a total. For showing and winning. Apparently you dont do your research before talking about something.
I used your in reference to the billion dollar business. What you want me to choose a different word because your nit picky? How about staying on topic instead of nit picking at silly shit. If you need to nit pick in order to defend your argument, then I am done talking with you.
They are getting paid peanuts compared to boxers. That is the fact. That is what this topic is about, can Anderson Silva make the 10-20mill that Manny Pacquiao makes.
Dont be dumb, ding dong. The topic isn't "Is UFC fighters getting paid crap compared to other MMA orgs?"
I never compared the pay in the UFC to other organizations. I was stating the reasons why UFC fighters earn smaller fight purses than top tier boxers.
And while I'm on that point, you do realize how small of a percentage of boxers are actually making that kind of money right ? Probably 2% of all professional boxers are making these multi-million dollar purses.
The topic is about UFC fighters paycheck vs Boxers paycheck. The fact is, a billion dollar business and your best fighter is making only 250k(total), while a guy with only 3 fights is making 1 mill a fight. (500k to show, and 500k to win). Or an old guy gets ktfo but still makes 500k, where the guy who khtfo gets 50k becomes a champ later and only makes 75k. That is called being ripped off.
You shouldn't speak on figures you pull out of your ass. And besides...
What's with the 'your' ?
Am I the representative for the UFC ? Are you boxing's official spokesman ?
Stop talking like you represent anything other than yourself. I'm a huge boxing fan, and have been all my life. I also like MMA. So what ?
Compared to boxing, they are being ripped off.
I obviously don't care because I still want to fight MMA. (I actually want to fight all combat sports and which ever one I rise up in quicker, that is the one I am choosing.)
I still disagree.
Mid-level and local level fighters in boxing and MMA are making comprable purses.
That 2% of boxing's elite that are making that kind of money make up a small fraction of what you're referring to.
One thing that you can say about the UFC's salaries is that they give bonuses based on performance. Fight of the night, submission of the night, KO of the night.
I can't believe there are people backing handing out these million-dollar purses, when those million dollar purses are one of the main reasons why the sport is in the state that its' in.
LOL @ getting ripped off.
Where can an MMA fighter get paid more with some type of stability anywhere on earth than in the UFC ?
Of course these guys aren't making the same kind of paydays as the top level boxers!
Boxing is an established sport, not to mention the fact that almost no one is interested in investing money back into the sport's future. They'd rather have immediate profits, then long term.
This is why you see these mega paydays in boxing. Money right now.
This is the same reason why boxing is losing a lot of its potential fanbase in younger males to The UFC. They aren't willing to do anything without making a profit, which makes sense now, but isn't doing anything for the sport in the long run.
Dont be dumb, ding dong. The topic isn't "Is UFC fighters getting paid crap compared to other MMA orgs?" The topic is about UFC fighters paycheck vs Boxers paycheck. The fact is, a billion dollar business and your best fighter is making only 250k(total), while a guy with only 3 fights is making 1 mill a fight. (500k to show, and 500k to win). Or an old guy gets ktfo but still makes 500k, where the guy who khtfo gets 50k becomes a champ later and only makes 75k. That is called being ripped off.
Compared to boxing, they are being ripped off.
I obviously don't care because I still want to fight MMA. (I actually want to fight all combat sports and which ever one I rise up in quicker, that is the one I am choosing.)
Never.
UFC fighters get ripped off. The ones who are okay, dont live in the US. What they make in USD, they can take to their country, convert it and make a couple mill in their country's currency. Like converting 250k into Brazilian cheese, you got a couple mill easily. (havent checked on it but I am just sayin.)
In short, UFC fighters get ripped off period.
LOL @ getting ripped off.
Where can an MMA fighter get paid more with some type of stability anywhere on earth than in the UFC ?
Of course these guys aren't making the same kind of paydays as the top level boxers!
Boxing is an established sport, not to mention the fact that almost no one is interested in investing money back into the sport's future. They'd rather have immediate profits, then long term.
This is why you see these mega paydays in boxing. Money right now.
This is the same reason why boxing is losing a lot of its potential fanbase in younger males to The UFC. They aren't willing to do anything without making a profit, which makes sense now, but isn't doing anything for the sport in the long run.
Never.
UFC fighters get ripped off. The ones who are okay, dont live in the US. What they make in USD, they can take to their country, convert it and make a couple mill in their country's currency. Like converting 250k into Brazilian cheese, you got a couple mill easily. (havent checked on it but I am just sayin.)
In short, UFC fighters get ripped off period.
Shut up you ****ing parakeet. Those #'s are bullshit and the numbers are not comparable. Those UFC shows are pay per view. Compare apples for apples. What's Brock shit head make compared to Wlad or Vatali? And they aren't even popular.
What numbers are you talking about ?
Also, like I said...what the **** does it matter to you as a fan anyways?
******.
Besides, these greedy ass promoters and other people in boxing have been sucking the sport dry for years...and dumb morons like you wanna brag on how much ____________ is making ?
You dumb son of a bitch, if you are truly a fan of the sport of boxing, you would see that these multi million dollar pay days are the exact reason for the sport being in the state that it is !
****ing idiot.
^^^Yeah look at Georges St Pierre for instance. The guy has fought nothing but top 10 guys in the UFC without getting one can in between. Thats why having a stellar record in MMA is very hard compared to boxing.
qft
In MMA, 15-0 is a VERY good record
in boxing, there are many 3rd tier boxers with that record early in their careers beating bums.
In a perfect world my friend. Amazing post. I'll hit you with some green karma when I'm not on my Blackberry.
The reason boxing is in such a turmoil is because of this system. I wasn't in favor in one organization controlling the sport, but the more I thought about it the more it made sense. UFC soon will become like NFL, it will be the premiere league of the MMA world. The good thing about that is that every good fighter will want to sign with them and fans get to see all the fights they want to see. As far as payment goes, MMA starts get paid enough money to live like ****ing kings. Brock Lesnar, Randy Couture, GSP all make more than 2 million when you include sponsorships and everything. Now if they want to get paid like boxers, organizations will start popping everywhere, you will have fighters making their own orgs, there will be one important fight on the card while the rest are filled with a bunch of nobodies that no one cares to see. It will basically be the cluster**** of a system, that boxing is now. Id rather have the top guys get paid 3-4 million and have cards wheres there 3-4 great fights, then watch 2 top 10 guys fight each other every 6 months. Rant/
It depends, the UFC is run by one guy, in boxing there are numerous promotional companies. Dana White will only pay the guy who is the most "known" at the time the big bucks..like Tito & Chuck and now Brock....And in the UFC, "anyone" can be a TITLE Contender, they make their stars. In boxing you have to fight to become one.
Take Brock Lesnar for example, he is 5 fights into his career with the UFC and people are saying he is one of the GREATEST HW ever? Come on, 5 fights in boxing and you're still a prospect with potential.....
lmao Brock Lesner is the ONLY example you can use and he beat top elite fighters to get his shot..in BOXING there are always some scrub ranked by an organization getting a shot at a 'title'.. talk about an ingorant statement.....you dont know ANYTHING about the UFC and how its ran..there are no BS tune ups and guys ducking each other you earn your shots...
You guys gotta understand something, Boxing's been around for over 100 years. Do you really think the business structure is exactly the same today as it was over 100 years ago? Of course not, the sport evolved.
The UFC as a company isn't even 20 years old yet. Who's to say their model won't change with the times too? There are more MMA schools today than there were even as early as last year..why? Because of the UFC. It's like a dude going to Pro Wrestling school to be a Wrestler. You think he's going to school to wrestle for an Independent all his life? No, he's looking straight towards the WWE...just like every MMA fighter coming up is looking towards the UFC.
I just don't get all the hate towards the UFC. I can see not liking it, but when you guys start trying to throw facts to downplay the UFC's success, ya'll always end up with your foots in your mouth.
Greed is what's killed Boxing's big momentum. If a UFC fighter is making only $200,000 compared to a Boxer's $10 Million and the 200k fighter puts on a better show, you think the consumer is going to buy a PPV based on what a Boxer's purse is?
No it will not simply because of its structure...Its a closed organization that locks fighters in...it does not let them shop around...goes against capitalist principles...
You need competition.....in order to have that you need an open "market"...UFC does not allow for that to happen.
Why does it matter to a fan ?
Brock Lesnar made around 6 million for UFC 100, after his percentage of the PPV buys, and that's not including his sponsorship money.
Also, around 2% of boxers are making that kind of money in professional boxing. The rest of the fighters salaries, especially for smaller local promotions, are quite comparable.
exactley.........
Why does it matter to a fan ?
Brock Lesnar made around 6 million for UFC 100, after his percentage of the PPV buys, and that's not including his sponsorship money.
Also, around 2% of boxers are making that kind of money in professional boxing. The rest of the fighters salaries, especially for smaller local promotions, are quite comparable.
I'm talking 15-20 years down the line by the way. If UFC continues its upward climb of popularity. Do you think it will ever be to a point where the two stars of a megafight make $5,0000,000 or $10,000,000+?