By John Gonzalez
Inquirer Columnist
The former pound-for-pound boxing champ, Roy Jones Jr., was in the front row last night. He's been lobbying UFC president Dana White to let him box UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva. White essentially said Jones is no longer relevant. "That fight doesn't make any sense to me," White said. Jones told me he'd even be willing to tweak the boxing format and allow elbows and kicks to make the fight happen. "The fans want it," Jones said. "Silva wants it. I want it. Dana is supposed to be a smart businessman. This would be good for business."
I cant beleive you guys are boxing fans. Im not telling you to be homers but you are really sleeping on boxing if you think its a sure thing that RJ gets killed by Silvia in this format. As long as its a standup fight I think you guys are underestimating just how much better boxers are than UFC guys in a boxing match. In a straight boxing match, even a washed up RJ kills Silvia without a doubt. Its no contest. If you allow the bows & kicks then it changes things but to me RJ still has the advantage because his speed & overall boxing ability will be too much even for a guy like Silvia. The kicking & bows will no doubt make it closer but I think RJ is still fast enough to get out of the way and strong enough to be able to take some while I think he will crush Silvia or any other UFC guy with his hands. Thats why Dana wont do it. You guys are drinkin the kool-aid but not him
Roy Jones has never been in a position to block kicks, elbows, or all of the above coming at him at once. Silva's made a career of knowing how to break his opponents down and finding their openings and if you're giving a world class Muy Thai Kick Boxer the opportunity to throw kicks and elbows against a Boxer who only knows how to defend punches, it could definitely spell disaster for Roy.
If it were strictly a Boxing affair, you have to give Roy the advantage. But I just don't see how Roy would contend against someone who's considered THE best in the sport (not just your ordinary MMA fighter) at what he does and being able to block kicks that will be coming incredible fast and hard along with Silva's striking (which is also not to be slept on either).
Fists alone, Roy easily KO's him under a minute. Fists and elbows Roy still KO's him ........but kicks, now thats a totally different story Roy will regret that big time
With fists, elbows and kicks Silva absolutely murders Roy Jones IF he wanted. Anderson Silva knows his stuff on his feet, and is completely able to unleash it in a furious way unlike Tim Sylvia.
RJJ is one of his greatest heroes, so he may very well be merciful for him, as also RJJ likely would be if they were just boxing and him kicking Silva's ass.
Both have a great respect for each other as a fighter, and sport-wise, Silva ain't bashing Boxing as RJJ ain't bashing MMA.
If this fight happens, I see it like a super-exhibition fight between 2 HoFers. One from Boxing, other from MMA.
Whatever the rules were.
Fists alone, Roy easily KO's him under a minute. Fists and elbows Roy still KO's him ........but kicks, now thats a totally different story Roy will regret that big time
I agree, kicks can land outside of Roy's punching distance and Silva is brutal with his feet and elbows.
Fists alone, Roy easily KO's him under a minute. Fists and elbows Roy still KO's him ........but kicks, now thats a totally different story Roy will regret that big time
A boxer will always have more of a chance in an MMA style match, than an MMA guy will have in a boxing only match.
Why?
Because even in MMA guys like to stand and trade, and the boxer always has a "puncher's chance" being the superior fighter with his fists, to catch his opponet when he gets cocky or overconfident.
Whereas the MMA guy stepping into the boxing realm is forfeiting 6 of the 8 weapons he is accustomed to using, plus his takedowns, and the entire ground game. Not to mention he's facing men who are absolutely superior to him in every way, shape, and fashion when it comes to throwing fists.
The videos BlackIrish posted are perfect examples of how well a boxer can transition from boxing into a kickboxing or MMA type bout.
And Mercer/Sylvia is a perfect example of what a washed up, 50 year old Heavyweight boxer can do to a top 10 MA Heavyweight if the MMA guy is deluded enough to think he can take the risk of standing with him.
Hopkins would win against Silva if kicks and ellbows are allowed.
Why? Because he already uses his ellbows, head, lowblows and tries to stand on his opponents feet.
holding and hitting
Hits to the back of the head,ass,leg
Rubs his head along cuts and also uses his thumb to open cuts more ^^
Hopkins is a mean bitch but i love him.
Still, he doesn't know how to DEFEND the kicks, no one's kicking him in the boxing ring -> same result as with RJJ.
Hopkins would win against Silva if kicks and ellbows are allowed.
Why? Because he already uses his ellbows, head, lowblows and tries to stand on his opponents feet.
holding and hitting
Hits to the back of the head,ass,leg
Rubs his head along cuts and also uses his thumb to open cuts more ^^
Hopkins is a mean bitch but i love him.
what people don't know is that Jones has been praticing kickboxing for a few years now.
Googled and all the training I found was boxing related. Could you give more information?
Still, if he had it doesn't mean shit, Silva has done it for 20 or more years.
Not having kicks or knees isnt always an automatic game over.
the boxers in these kickboxing matches are Francois Botha and Virgil Kalakoda...
even at his best, Botha was getting killed by Lewis and Wladimir. this fat version of him couldnt even beat Clifford Etienne.
and Kalakoda?
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=16924&cat=boxer
Couldnt even beat a guy that was 17-9 in boxing, and got KOed in the first round by a guy that was 17-20...
journeyman, at best.
and yet he took Buakaw to a very close decision, and Buakaw was one of the best guys in the world in the lower weight classes in kickboxing.
there are ways of dealing with kicks, knees and elbows. just need to know how.
oh, and mind you, the kickboxers in these videos are top level.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBG9PeImA10
I'm not saying that this would necessarily happen to Roy, but he needs to take notice of the situation he's getting into.
Ignashov was a true badass. So relaxed, some would even consider him lazy in the ring. And insane reflexes, I once saw him dodging a roundhouse kick and instantly kicking his opponent in a thigh while his opponent was in a halfway of his spin after the roundhouse.
Where did he go? He just seemed to disappear.
Roy is completely deluded to think he's going to be able to handle elbows and kicks from Silva, and throw enough good ones of his own with such minimal training and expertise by comparison.
Very sad if this happens, he doesn't know what's good for him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBG9PeImA10
I'm not saying that this would necessarily happen to Roy, but he needs to take notice of the situation he's getting into.