Just watched Manny vs Oscar and Cotto vs Clottey (HD .mkv files) side by side on my PC. Manny makes Cotto and Clottey appear as if they are fighting under water.
Also, Manny's pace is just relentless; makes Cotto-Clottey look like a sparring session.
And bump this one after the fight too.
Pacquiao won this fight way back on June 13 2009. This is an obvious mismatch against Cotto I dont know why is so hard to understand, styles make fights. Cotto is a suberb fighter and is my second favorite but he should never sign the contract for this fight, Pacquiao is going to make him look slow, old and shot over night and many will start questioning Cotto as an elite fighter.
For me he is a will still be elite after Nov. 14th but believe me, many will be fooled by his performance on this particular date when in fact is a question of the bad match for him.
I nominate this for post of the day.
Did you see that video dog? I bet you had to watch it slow motion right?
didnt need to i seen countless boxers as fast as manny over the years, speed is not even half the battle. what will happen when his speed is not enough also i read about roach complaining that cotto is dirty, pac be throwing those tai boxer elbows.
Pacquiao won this fight way back on June 13 2009. This is an obvious mismatch against Cotto I dont know why is so hard to understand, styles maje fights. Cotto is a suberb fighter and is my second favorite but he should never sign the contract for this fight, Pacquiao is going to make him look slow, old and shot over night and many will start questioning Cotto as an elite fighter.
For me he is a will still be elite after Nov. 14th but believe me, many will be fooled by his performance on this particular date when in fact is a question of the bad match for him.
this bullshit again. julio cesar chavez was slower than probably all his opponents, so what will manny do if his speed is takin away.
Did you see that video dog? I bet you had to watch it slow motion right?
great way to look at it, He is tooooooo slow for Manny. Cotto wont be able to take the speed at all
this bullshit again. julio cesar chavez was slower than probably all his opponents, so what will manny do if his speed is takin away.
Now talking about Cotto's chin.. You say his chin sucks because Margarito KO'd him but, only after 11 rounds of HUGE punches that would've KO'd another in 2 rounds.. And in the Clottey fight, HUGE punches and fought with 1 eye BADLY cut yet he lasted the full fight with energy and came out all rounds punching... Manny is amazing no doubt but no matter what anybody says, he isn't as strong as Clottey or Margarito.. Ohh and with Mosley, when he landed the uppercuts, Cotto still walked through them and HE KO'd Margarito.. Now about Manny, I love his style.. it's different and it works wonders, but saying that he's gonna throw Cotto like a ragdoll across the ring then you're sadly mistaken bro..
All it takes is one shot from Manny, the speed will be the difference...
Now talking about Cotto's chin.. You say his chin sucks because Margarito KO'd him but, only after 11 rounds of HUGE punches that would've KO'd another in 2 rounds.. And in the Clottey fight, HUGE punches and fought with 1 eye BADLY cut yet he lasted the full fight with energy and came out all rounds punching... Manny is amazing no doubt but no matter what anybody says, he isn't as strong as Clottey or Margarito.. Ohh and with Mosley, when he landed the uppercuts, Cotto still walked through them and HE KO'd Margarito.. Now about Manny, I love his style.. it's different and it works wonders, but saying that he's gonna throw Cotto like a ragdoll across the ring then you're sadly mistaken bro..
^i would say november 16 cause after the pac-hatton fight the server tubes broke. I could barely navigate through the site with hitting server errors.
cotto is no oscar. watch again. if you were watching those two fights you can also see cotto had the heart to keep going with that huge cut and blood dripping. oscar quit on his stool knowing he was about to get ktfo. :boxing:
Even that version of Oscar had a better chin than Miguel has ever had... If Manny caught Miguel with the shots he was catching Oscar with, he'd stop him in 5 rounds...
I can't see Cotto losing this fight. Unless he comes in completely wreckless as he did in rd 1 vs Judah. Otherwise I see Pac's speed winning him the first two or so rds, once he starts laying on the ropes he's gone.
cotto has good timing manny hits hard but so does cotto is a pick'em fight 50/50 but i like cotto in 7 ill be here either way on november 15...wait make the 16 cause ill be flying back from vegas but i might take my laptop
^i would say november 16 cause after the pac-hatton fight the server tubes broke. I could barely navigate through the site with hitting server errors.
cotto is no oscar. watch again. if you were watching those two fights you can also see cotto had the heart to keep going with that huge cut and blood dripping. oscar quit on his stool knowing he was about to get ktfo. :boxing:
WTF!? A Cotto hate thread?..Not on NSB!?? This is sooo weird... I don't think Cotto's biggest challenge will be speed.. I think it will be his corner.. I'm still giving Cotto the edge.. He's technically sound and strong as an ox.. I think he fights alot better vs smaller fighters and I think Zabs speed is comparable to Pacquiao.. The one fight he did lose, he tried to outpower a guy that was bigger and stronger than he was.. It's easier to see and evaluate speed on tape because you can't see power or chin.. If Pac wins though it won't be a huge surprise, however I doubt it will be as easy as rick and dlh.. If Cotto times Pac like JMM did he's not going to stun him, he will KO or at very least get a KD and KO him later... If Cotto gets in trouble though he's done.. He looked confused in the Clottey fight at times and his corner had no answers and Joe Santiago said they have alot to work on
I think joe santiago is the one that should be worked on... replacing him would be even better.