why don't massive attendance fights happen in the US?

because us blokes in the states don't play footy because it's bloody gay. cheerio lol what is the sport you play american football their so gay they wear helmets and huge shoulder pads they look like right pussy stick them in a rugby game they wouldnt know what hit them without there safety helmets etc.

agreed.. btw I also like them ;) I like Wlad, but I can certainly see why those I've spoken with (amongst friends, at work and at other non-boxing forums) don't share that same appreciation. It's part of being an objective fan of the sport as a whole - like who you like, but accept that others won't follow and be willing to understand why they won't do so.

Europe is very different from the US. You guys have soccer above anything else and then maybe boxing. We here have too many varieties. We have pro football, baseball, basketball and a grip of other sports. The US life is fast paced, Europeans don't live as fast paced as us. You guys have less to do. :rofl: actually cricket rugby union and league are far bigger than boxing, ill give you new york fastest paced city in the world but my dads been through hick towns in the US and he thinks their medievil lol.

Well jeez, we get the point already. You obviously like the Klitschkos. That doesn't mean everyone in the UK does. Nor does everyone in the UK like Haye, either. No need to keep banging on about it. agreed.. btw I also like them ;)

you can idolise tyson and still have respect for other fighters though surely? have you been doing questionnaires on the streets? probably not. im from liverpool, possibly the biggest boxing city in the UK and most people here like the klitschkos vitali would give any HW in history a good fight. good chin, and a knockout punch. what more can you ask for, fair enough not particularly technical but tough as they come. i couldnt name a single HW in history who would definatley beat him Well jeez, we get the point already. You obviously like the Klitschkos. That doesn't mean everyone in the UK does. Nor does everyone in the UK like Haye, either. No need to keep banging on about it.

UK has Khan Froch Hatton Haye USA – Bradley Alexander Mayweather Mosley Williams Pavlik Hopkins Dawson Dirrel Ward The UK don’t have as much good fighters as the state, when they get a decent boxer they are all over his nuts the US has got 5 or 6 times the population of the UK so they'll always have more good fighters you fuucking spaz

I just think its that the US has most of the better fighters and alot more top fighters so most fans are mixed on who they like.. The UK has only a handfull at the most of elite fighters so obviously they'll have more fans to back them because there arent other stars there for fans to get behind and support.

Look, I'm not speaking for myself here. I enjoy Wladimir's work and appreciate what a good ambassador for the sport he is. I'm just stating what I know to have heard from fellow Londoners that I've spoken to - and that is that they despise the Klitschkos and still idolise Mike Tyson. As for Haye, many have never even heard of him. you can idolise tyson and still have respect for other fighters though surely? have you been doing questionnaires on the streets? probably not. im from liverpool, possibly the biggest boxing city in the UK and most people here like the klitschkos vitali would give any HW in history a good fight. good chin, and a knockout punch. what more can you ask for, fair enough not particularly technical but tough as they come. i couldnt name a single HW in history who would definatley beat him

the british boxing public like the klitschkos - how the fuuck can you ruin a division by dominating it? we're just happy that for once it isnt americans dominating the HW division. and this isnt an anti american thread but it makes a nice change for the recognised HW kings to be a pair of well-mannered and educated white europeans Look, I'm not speaking for myself here. I enjoy Wladimir's work and appreciate what a good ambassador for the sport he is. I'm just stating what I know to have heard from fellow Londoners that I've spoken to - and that is that they despise the Klitschkos and still idolise Mike Tyson. As for Haye, many have never even heard of him.

From what I've heard in general, Londoners I've talked to can't stand the Klitschkos. They always come out with the "They're just boring robots who've ruined the HW division" thing. the british boxing public like the klitschkos - how the fuuck can you ruin a division by dominating it? we're just happy that for once it isnt americans dominating the HW division. and this isnt an anti american thread but it makes a nice change for the recognised HW kings to be a pair of well-mannered and educated white europeans

Casino site fees. They can pay a ton of money to host a fight. Ticket sales are only part of the money they make when there's a big fight taking place.

Makes me wonder as to whether they paid to see the arrogant jug-eared tosspot lose, rather than win. i'd say half and half

UK fight fans actually like the klitsckos From what I've heard in general, Londoners I've talked to can't stand the Klitschkos. They always come out with the "They're just boring robots who've ruined the HW division" thing.

don't forget Prince Naseem.. that guy was funny, i still hate him, but he was awesome to watch Makes me wonder as to whether they paid to see the arrogant jug-eared tosspot lose, rather than win.

For one boxing just isn't that popular in the US unless it's a megafight. Another reason could be the high ticket prices. Maybe they've figured out it's more profitable to charge more for less seats in a smaller arena than vise versa. I believe there's also some money handed over from the casinos when fights take place in Vegas. because us blokes in the states don't play footy because it's bloody gay. cheerio

The last time British boxing was huge was because of Hatton, Lennox, Benn, Eubank and Calzaghe. I don't think Haye will ever reach the popularity of those 4, what with his silly antics over the past year and tendency to pull out of fights. He's not a very endearing character, either. Granted, he does the mouthy Londoner thing, but I don't see it washing with everyone these days. Didn't they have to give away free tickets for the Barrett fight? Even with the best promotional hype, there's no way he'd sell enough to make a Wembley date during these bad times... unless the tickets were very reasonably priced. i agree hes a bit of a mouthy cuunt but still hes the first brit to fight for a world HW title, apart from danny williams, with any chance of winning since lennox. also UK fight fans actually like the klitsckos - theyre recognised as the best and seem like decent lads into the bargain so i think haye v one of them would generate huge interest - basically anyone who beats either of them can claim to be HW champ of the world so the fight will sell seats belive me. id want to go and i live 200 miles way

vegas and the garden are the home of boxing that's undoubtable but the arenas are small why are the fights in the US never in bigger arenas? whereas in europe they hold them in football stadiums and get 50,000+ they hold them in 10,000 capacity arenas in the US. was talking about this with me mates yesterday and we couldnt think why. surely more fans=more money? Like people said, Vegas will dish out a lot of money to have the fights. Wasn't always like this though. Around the times of Joe Louis, and those prior, they fought in baseball stadiums, like Yankee Stadium, which held 50,000. I guess now it's because boxing's popularity has waned since then. Now its good if you can sell out 16,000+ at MSG or the MGM Grand. Seems odd especially when you consider American College Fotball games sell-out stadiums that are anywhere between 60,000-110,000 every week.

The last time British boxing was huge was because of Hatton, Lennox, Benn, Eubank and Calzaghe. I don't think Haye will ever reach the popularity of those 4, what with his silly antics over the past year and tendency to pull out of fights. He's not a very endearing character, either. Granted, he does the mouthy Londoner thing, but I don't see it washing with everyone these days. Didn't they have to give away free tickets for the Barrett fight? Even with the best promotional hype, there's no way he'd sell enough to make a Wembley date during these bad times... unless the tickets were very reasonably priced. don't forget Prince Naseem.. that guy was funny, i still hate him, but he was awesome to watch

don't forget Prince Naseem.. that guy was funny, i still hate him, but he was awesome to watch

you underestimate how big boxing is in the uk a decent fight with a uk boxer would draw mega crowds - especially a cockney challenging for the HW title in london The last time British boxing was huge was because of Hatton, Lennox, Benn, Eubank and Calzaghe. I don't think Haye will ever reach the popularity of those 4, what with his silly antics over the past year and tendency to pull out of fights. He's not a very endearing character, either. Granted, he does the mouthy Londoner thing, but I don't see it washing with everyone these days. Didn't they have to give away free tickets for the Barrett fight? Even with the best promotional hype, there's no way he'd sell enough to make a Wembley date during these bad times... unless the tickets were very reasonably priced.