When Muhuammad Ali dies.......

They don't get a pass either, I know what you mean as far as him growing up in those ties, its tough. It makes you hate people who've looked down on you, pushed you around, etc. It makes you generalize though. I do not think Ali would've been remotely racist (or used those terms with Frazier) w/o being first served with racism. But society is never benefitted from racism in response to racism. But let's not even talk about this anymore! Ali was a great man, fighter, idol , icon, with not enough words to describe him! :)

Times are not an excuse for racism, thats like saying if there was ever a time where everyone was beatin up kids then it'd be acceptable if Chris Brown joined in. I'm not saying Ali was bad or inherently racist but he went over the top with some his remarks. He called Joe Frazier "the white man's ******", "uncle tom", etc. Not only does it infer dislike to white people, but I can tell you no black man ever wants to hear that shit. I'm not disrespecting Ali, I love the man, he's a hero and an icon. Again, I think you need to think about what a man like Ali grew up with in Louisville, KY. in the 50's and 60's and then understand where he was coming from...and if you really paid attention you would realize Ali NEVER used any of that type of talk with a white opponent...never...I always find it odd that people jump all over a guy like Ali for saying things in defense of black people but they dont jump all over the people who brought out those thoughts in the first place...I mean, people jump all over Ali but the people who said he couldnt eat their food in their restaurant get a pass??? THOSE were the times, my man

I said you have absolutely no real knowledge of boxing and it's history and it's very apparent that you don't.You're the kind of type that should stick to the basics and HBO 24/7,It's more for the dim witted casual viewer such as yourself who have no real understanding of boxing and it's history I'll tell you what's gay.Sticking a mans arm in between your legs,pressed up in the groin area to break an arm is what is gay.I debated the supposed worldwide attraction that MMGAY has with you and you ended up making an absolute fool of yourself grappling apart from being incredibly gay(besides judo) is based upon physicality rather than technique.Wrestling encourages huge cuts in weight for advantages in competition to the point of which it is blatantly cheating Go learn to speak the english language and take that d*ck out of your mouth you little sh*tbag or go watch some unskilled glass jawed club fighters grapple each other half naked in a cage One thing I do respect you for is the fact that you aren't ashamed of your sexuality and that you are a proud homo.Because only a homo could watch and enjoy that shit Lol wow. I can break you arm without it being in the middle of my legs, straight armbar. Sorry if I don't worry too much about my spelling on the INTERNET, where you seem to be getting so mad because I happen to like ANOTHER sport lmao :dunno:. You are so childish its not even funny, actually nvm it is. How are they glass jawed lol, you couldn't take some of the shots yourself haha. Half naked, they have shorts. What do boxers have on? A parka? lol How is cutting to maximize strength-to-weight in a given weight class cheating lol. Lol how did I make a fool of myself in the thread. A couple boxing fans even agreed with me. The fact you enter threads to MMA bash says it all lol. Hard time growing up? :bottle: LMAO if you knew anything about judo you know they have a ground game too, newaza.

You can tell me that there are people out there who are as stupid and retarded as you are as to believing frazier won despite not coming out for the 15th round(and you have yet to back up your claims of ali wanting to quit or frazier actually wanting to carry one) Any mmGAY fighter would try to clinch with me and take me to the ground and try to molest me,I can't explain their behaviour perhaps they got molested when they were younger who knows.All I know is that MMGAY doesn't require a whole lot of skill and it's fighters fight like women,school girls and bums with glass jaws I know you like mmGay through your defense of the garbage in another thread where as once again you failed to back up your weak arguments with actual proof and facts and ended up getting the absolute schooling of a life time from myself MMGAY doesn't have any place in society let alone sport or on this forum and you expect me to approve of the trash? I don't think so Lmao when have I argued with you in the past? I don't remeber it, even if it was true which it may be, then it has had no effect on me which I can't say the same for you since you remember lol. Lol since when is breaking your arm and punching you in to the face while you're on the ground a form of sexual expression. Lol doesn't require skill, lmao you try to submit a BJJ blackbelt. Looks like your riding more than high horse lol, get the dick outta your butt. How can you even call someone who does boxing, not a boxing fan lol. Why else would I want to do it. lol I don't expect an insecure elitist like yourself to respect it lol, and theres and MMA forum on this board lmao. Haha wow, I like quote u mad? :bottle: Edit: Lmao I found the thread where you argued you with me, schooling? Don't flatter yourself only things you said were repetitions of words and phrases like "its gayzozoz!" "no ta1ent!"

When an ignorant NEWB such as yourself posts lie's,myths and bullshit I will call you out on it.Because I don't tolerate ignorance and stupidity.Not only are you not a boxing whiz(as you put it)You also don't have a damn clue about boxing and it's history.If you are ignorant of history in whatever it's subject then you shut the f*ck up about it and go learn it through reliable source's you f*cking moron.It's that simple Go back to sherdog and go discuss two grown half naked men grappling each other in a cage because this is a boxing forum for boxing fans discussing boxing You're not a boxing fan and you know absolutely nothing about boxing Lol well for one you said this is what happens when an MMA fan watches boxing. I can tell you for a fact many others think Frazier won in essence. Lol you don't tolerate ignorance and stupidity or are you going out of your way to flame someone who likes MMA as well as boxing? How am I ignorant, what facts have you presented that I am ignoring? lol. Why are you so mad, :bottle:? MMA is also more than that, any decent MMA fighter would hand you your ass on a silver platter as well. I'm serious, teenagers could **** you up. lol I'm not a boxing fan? Lol, how can you say that you don't know me. You also must be stalking my posts since you know I like MMA. Do you even train in boxing? I've started recently because I love the sport. Lol elitist....:cool3:.....not really haha.

Ok how about you stop talking about Ali dying. CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!.......please stop this type of talk!!! PLEASE!!!!!

UGH,This is the problem with letting MMGAY fans watch boxing.They just don't understand a damn thing about it and tend to rely on the myths,lies and half truth bullshit that HBO feeds them because their too damn lazy and ignorant to do real research.The story of ali refusing to come out for the 15th round is as bigger myth as the cut glove story and the long count combined. Frazier failed to come out for the 15th round - Fact.There is more actual evidence that points to Frazier quitting rather than Ali quitting. Lol an MMA fan? If I like basketball and football am I just a football fan. Lol get over yourself and your elitist ego. BTW I started watching Boxing and MMA at a relatively young age and at around the same time, not to say I'm a boxing whiz, but that your efforts to further demean MMA are really stupid/wack/biased/and I could go on. But all I have to say is you and your ego are :lame:. Most boxing fans who hate MMA are insecure about its position as a sport compared to MMA and think MMA is stealing their light/fans/etc. Stop being a teenager, grow up. You can love both sports. :bottle:

Im half mexican and half white and I can understand why Malcolm X thought the way he thought of White people. Example if tall people your whole life gave you shit and made you life almost impossible to deal with, Im pretty sure be like **** tall people most of your life. Agreed it gives you an incentive to hate but not an excuse to hate. This is problems of prejudice and generalizing. But I know what you mean. But Malcolm didn't hate white people the way he did after he started hanging with NOI. He used to be a country kid from Michigan.

Why not appreciate him while he's living? Is he a lonely guy? Pay him a visit, have him sign your gloves. Morbid thread, stop it please-

Ali was a great man, that said... How does joing NOI support your fellow brothers in a way that can't be done w/o them? NOI has/had a lot of arrogant and racist pricks. Malcolm X was even racist or seemingly so for a time until he was enlightened. Im half mexican and half white and I can understand why Malcolm X thought the way he thought of White people. Example if tall people your whole life gave you shit and made you life almost impossible to deal with, Im pretty sure be like **** tall people most of your life.

Man Idk I think MJ's coverage will be bigger because of his circus like lifestyle but I think Ali deserves more man. Im pretty sure the boxing world and ESPN will make a huge thing of it.

Ali was a great man, that said... How does joing NOI support your fellow brothers in a way that can't be done w/o them? NOI has/had a lot of arrogant and racist pricks. Malcolm X was even racist or seemingly so for a time until he was enlightened.

I can respect an honest answer, unlike some guys who say "**** the guy" " he was an asshole" or dumb shit like that. im a asshole to but in topics like this, you just dont post bullshit cause you wind up sounding like a stupid motherf ucker if you dont respond correctly, Ali did look like a rascist at times but by no means was he was a f uckin ignorant rascist, he was a proud black man who gave up on being nice and join the muslims in support of his peeps, he was and still is a good man, he just defended his race just like anybody elce would defend theirs

Too many fighters died last month, lets not talk about any more fighters dying.

i honestly wouldnt care, wouldnt be a big deal to me cause i never knew him and he didnt do nothing for me so i guess im supposed to give you a politically correct answer and say id shed tears, if i did say ill shed tears , ill be lying my ass off in order to sound politically correct I can respect an honest answer, unlike some guys who say "**** the guy" " he was an asshole" or dumb shit like that.

I was thinking the other day, what this day will be like? is it gonna be like when MJ died and it was all over tv. Iam sure its gonabe all day on espn, it will be a very sad day not only for sports but for everyone. The man represents so much more than just boxing. i honestly wouldnt care, wouldnt be a big deal to me cause i never knew him and he didnt do nothing for me so i guess im supposed to give you a politically correct answer and say id shed tears, if i did say ill shed tears , ill be lying my ass off in order to sound politically correct

WTF? Why did you even think of this??? It just went through my mind naturally, u know the world of boxing has been having alot of deaths lately, all premature. Ali is getting old, and well his battle with parkinsons doesnt help. So i thought about it. I hope he lives along time, trust me dude. I love Muhammad Ali, its just a crazy thought.

His racist attitude? ALI's racist attitude????????? Are...you...JOKING or what????????????????? Man, come on, read up on your history, wake up to what is real and just not what you think you see and hear or what people tell you...to listen to Ali's struggles and to know his history and know the climate of the times and for you to come on here to comment only that he had a "racist attitude" shows very clearly that you have no idea what you are talking about. And that is not even meant to offend you, I am not trying to do that...just saying it in a very diplomatic way, a mature way...you don't know what you are talking about, believe me I think its just ignorance why they say stuff like that man, some people here need to hit up wikipedia cus they dont know what the hell their saying.

His racist attitude? ALI's racist attitude????????? Are...you...JOKING or what????????????????? Man, come on, read up on your history, wake up to what is real and just not what you think you see and hear or what people tell you...to listen to Ali's struggles and to know his history and know the climate of the times and for you to come on here to comment only that he had a "racist attitude" shows very clearly that you have no idea what you are talking about. And that is not even meant to offend you, I am not trying to do that...just saying it in a very diplomatic way, a mature way...you don't know what you are talking about, believe me Times are not an excuse for racism, thats like saying if there was ever a time where everyone was beatin up kids then it'd be acceptable if Chris Brown joined in. I'm not saying Ali was bad or inherently racist but he went over the top with some his remarks. He called Joe Frazier "the white man's ******", "uncle tom", etc. Not only does it infer dislike to white people, but I can tell you no black man ever wants to hear that shit. I'm not disrespecting Ali, I love the man, he's a hero and an icon.

I was thinking the other day, what this day will be like? is it gonna be like when MJ died and it was all over tv. Iam sure its gonabe all day on espn, it will be a very sad day not only for sports but for everyone. The man represents so much more than just boxing. WTF? Why did you even think of this???