Who is the Bettern Fighter Gatti or Cotto?

Gatti was a warrior with that said Cotto is still better

it has nothing to do with not wanting to accept his loss its a natural thing when a guy gets caught cheating in any sport to wonder if he has done it before. to act like that is unreasonable for someone to ask those questions is pretty naive on your part. anyway i guess we can agree to not agree and your entitled to your opinion. at least you give me reasons on why you feel that way so respect given for that lol, you haven't been here long huh? They dont speculate it, they 100% full blown accuse him of it.

:pat: I dont believe he cheated Cotto. People assume he cheated Cotto because the way Cotto's face look. Yet way before Cotto, he nearly ripped a dude's ear off. When a man is known for absolutely dismantling opponents, you block, Cotto blocked with his face when he was tired. So of course he was going to look that way. It's like fighting Mike Tyson and choosing to keep your hands down, then claiming he cheated. Makes no sense. Until Margarito himself says he cheated, the facts all add up saying he didn't cheat. His history says he didn't cheat. If he was in do or die mode after PWill, why did Cintron get stopped later than the 1st match? If he used it all the time, why wasn't Clottey or PWill's face destroyed? Just simply saying, he needed it for Cotto, makes no sense at all and is just an excuse to not accept his loss. it has nothing to do with not wanting to accept his loss its a natural thing when a guy gets caught cheating in any sport to wonder if he has done it before. to act like that is unreasonable for someone to ask those questions is pretty naive on your part. anyway i guess we can agree to not agree and your entitled to your opinion. at least you give me reasons on why you feel that way so respect given for that

i also disagree about your stance on margs. i think if he got caught loading his gloves in the very next fight against mosley and to look at cottos face i dont think it is too far fetched to assume he cheated against cotto. margs knew that the cotto fight was make or break for his carreer and a win would make him a hero in mexico so if he thought that why would he not try for that extra advantage that he tried for against shane when the the bigger fight was cotto. :pat: I dont believe he cheated Cotto. People assume he cheated Cotto because the way Cotto's face look. Yet way before Cotto, he nearly ripped a dude's ear off. When a man is known for absolutely dismantling opponents, you block, Cotto blocked with his face when he was tired. So of course he was going to look that way. It's like fighting Mike Tyson and choosing to keep your hands down, then claiming he cheated. Makes no sense. Until Margarito himself says he cheated, the facts all add up saying he didn't cheat. His history says he didn't cheat. If he was in do or die mode after PWill, why did Cintron get stopped later than the 1st match? If he used it all the time, why wasn't Clottey or PWill's face destroyed? Just simply saying, he needed it for Cotto, makes no sense at all and is just an excuse to not accept his loss. Cotto-Gatti could go either way though. I just dont see it being as easy a win for Cotto as some people are making it out to be.

This is at 140. Cotto could barely make 140. I think Gatti has it for all the reasons I stated. After 7 rounds the beast is gassed. Cotto could win if he played it like Mosley; back off, stay away, and box. Even though I believe Cotto will think like you and underestimate Gatti. It will be another Classic and it will be because Gatti wins when he is the major underdog. true cotto could barely make 140 but that also is a double edged sword because cotto would still come in at 150 + and would be the much bigger man and the more skilled fighter...

i also disagree about your stance on margs. i think if he got caught loading his gloves in the very next fight against mosley and to look at cottos face i dont think it is too far fetched to assume he cheated against cotto. margs knew that the cotto fight was make or break for his carreer and a win would make him a hero in mexico so if he thought that why would he not try for that extra advantage that he tried for against shane when the the bigger fight was cotto.

the reasons are so obvious i cant belive you cant see them. they are 2 differnt leagues and to think gatti would be able to push cotto around the ring and apply the pressure like the much bigger margs did doesnt make sense to me. cotto would be coming forward and gatti would take one of the worst beatings he took in his career cotto is naturally stronger bigger and more skilled then gatti if it was that easy to just pressure cotto and beat him he wouldnt have the record he has now. This is at 140. Cotto could barely make 140. I think Gatti has it for all the reasons I stated. After 7 rounds the beast is gassed. Cotto could win if he played it like Mosley; back off, stay away, and box. Even though I believe Cotto will think like you and underestimate Gatti. It will be another Classic and it will be because Gatti wins when he is the major underdog.

Sure buddy, if you say so. At 140? C'mon Dap, at 140? He couldn't even finish Malignaggi at 140. :nonono: Two extremely hard low blows isn't cheating? Clottey obviously won, ring generalship and effective aggression apparently isn't in the scoring criteria in New York. I dont have bias against Cotto, I just tell it like it is. I even said if he plays it like he did Mosley(a guy he couldn't finish) he could win. However, I see no reason why Cotto would play Gatti like he did Mosley because Gatti doesn't have the footwork, speed, or defense of Mosley. Gatti really isn't skilled at all, he just wont give up or get put away. I just noticed, I am the only one giving reasons why the guy I chose would win. Your just saying Cotto wins. No reasons, just saying he wins and dropping names. You have to factor in certain things when thinking about Margarito not using plaster. If you look at Margarito's track record, he is known for knocking guys blocks off. Then you look at Margarito's opponents with names (Clottey, PWill, Cintron). Clottey and PWill were hardly damaged. And Cintron was put away in 5 the first time, then you put in what people say "He would have used plaster after PWill." Well, Cintron was stopped in 6 the second time(after PWill), if he had plaster wouldn't Cintron be stopped sooner not later? Then if you want to detail Cotto's damage, go look at Sebastian Lujan. Then the way Cotto faught Clottey, shows that pressure is Cotto's kryptonite. The odds stack up in the favor of him not using plaster more so than using plaster. Then of course you add, "Innocent until proven guilty". Which ends accusations right there. the reasons are so obvious i cant belive you cant see them. they are 2 differnt leagues and to think gatti would be able to push cotto around the ring and apply the pressure like the much bigger margs did doesnt make sense to me. cotto would be coming forward and gatti would take one of the worst beatings he took in his career cotto is naturally stronger bigger and more skilled then gatti if it was that easy to just pressure cotto and beat him he wouldnt have the record he has now.

Cotto beats GAtti at 140, 240 or 340. And the only reason he didn't k.o Paulie is cuz' that dude was holding him more than Ricky Hatton. But he finished him alright. Paulie has never been the same since that fight. I think you gotta rewatch Gatti-Ward trilogy. If Gatti loses it will be a Decision and it will be because of 1 of 2 reasons. 1. Cotto fights Gatti like he did Mosley after round 7. 2. The fight is in Madison Square Garden.

Cotto beats GAtti at 140, 240 or 340. And the only reason he didn't k.o Paulie is cuz' that dude was holding him more than Ricky Hatton. But he finished him alright. Paulie has never been the same since that fight. coming from a retard who do you think will believe you?

Dude you're nuts. Cotto Quintana's Gatti. This is a retarded thread from retarded poster. At 140? C'mon Dap, at 140? He couldn't even finish Malignaggi at 140. :nonono: cheated against judah and got a gift against clottey it is obvious that you have a strong bias against cotto which is clouding your judgement. also i dont know for sure if margs used plaster against cotto but how are you so sure that he didnt. Two extremely hard low blows isn't cheating? Clottey obviously won, ring generalship and effective aggression apparently isn't in the scoring criteria in New York. I dont have bias against Cotto, I just tell it like it is. I even said if he plays it like he did Mosley(a guy he couldn't finish) he could win. However, I see no reason why Cotto would play Gatti like he did Mosley because Gatti doesn't have the footwork, speed, or defense of Mosley. Gatti really isn't skilled at all, he just wont give up or get put away. I just noticed, I am the only one giving reasons why the guy I chose would win. Your just saying Cotto wins. No reasons, just saying he wins and dropping names. You have to factor in certain things when thinking about Margarito not using plaster. If you look at Margarito's track record, he is known for knocking guys blocks off. Then you look at Margarito's opponents with names (Clottey, PWill, Cintron). Clottey and PWill were hardly damaged. And Cintron was put away in 5 the first time, then you put in what people say "He would have used plaster after PWill." Well, Cintron was stopped in 6 the second time(after PWill), if he had plaster wouldn't Cintron be stopped sooner not later? Then if you want to detail Cotto's damage, go look at Sebastian Lujan. Then the way Cotto faught Clottey, shows that pressure is Cotto's kryptonite. The odds stack up in the favor of him not using plaster more so than using plaster. Then of course you add, "Innocent until proven guilty". Which ends accusations right there.

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Is this serious? Cotto, by a standard mile...

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Dude you're nuts. Cotto Quintana's Gatti. This is a retarded thread from retarded poster. You're the #1 P4P king of retards

He said himself that he avoided from Mosley towards the ladder part of the match. He cheated against Judah who already has mental lapses. It's like making fun of a RSP kid because he can't do a math question. Clottey was robbed. I give him credit for Quinatana. Margarito never had plaster wraps and it was pretty obvious that Cotto hates pressure. Clottey was the second opinion to that. I'm not selling Cotto short. Your overrating him. He could barely make 140, he is chinny, and hates pressure. Guess how Gatti fights? It sure as hell isn't punch and pause. Specially when he gets into dire situations. Like I said, Cotto will fight hard until the 6th or 7th(like he always does) and then gas. At which he wont play Gatti like he did Mosley because Gatti isn't fast and doesn't have a great defense. So Cotto will more than likely play him like Margarito and think he can finish him but then will realize he cant but by that time it is too late because the accumulated damage from getting into a slugfest with Gatti will take it's toll on him. Then you will see Cotto avoid but be too tired to really sway(since he doesn't block) and keep getting hit with bombs. Thus the refs will either see it in Gatti's favor(unless the fight is in NY) or he will quit again. cheated against judah and got a gift against clottey it is obvious that you have a strong bias against cotto which is clouding your judgement. also i dont know for sure if margs used plaster against cotto but how are you so sure that he didnt.

no actually it wasnt a jab it was a punch to the side of his head that wobbled him and he recovered and won the fight. if cotto was that easy to beat he would have never beat mosley, quintana, judah ,clottey ect you think that just anyone could do what margs did (possibly with loaded gloves) to cotto then i think your selling cotto real short. and no i will not argue that cotto could take more punishment then gatti but then again who could He said himself that he avoided from Mosley towards the ladder part of the match. He cheated against Judah who already has mental lapses. It's like making fun of a RSP kid because he can't do a math question. Clottey was robbed. I give him credit for Quinatana. Margarito never had plaster wraps and it was pretty obvious that Cotto hates pressure. Clottey was the second opinion to that. I'm not selling Cotto short. Your overrating him. He could barely make 140, he is chinny, and hates pressure. Guess how Gatti fights? It sure as hell isn't punch and pause. Specially when he gets into dire situations. Like I said, Cotto will fight hard until the 6th or 7th(like he always does) and then gas. At which he wont play Gatti like he did Mosley because Gatti isn't fast and doesn't have a great defense. So Cotto will more than likely play him like Margarito and think he can finish him but then will realize he cant but by that time it is too late because the accumulated damage from getting into a slugfest with Gatti will take it's toll on him. Then you will see Cotto avoid but be too tired to really sway(since he doesn't block) and keep getting hit with bombs. Thus the judges will either see it in Gatti's favor(unless the fight is in NY) or he will quit again.

As a BOXER cotto is better as a FIGHTER Gatti is better

You just said he was great lol. He had some exciting fights no doubt, but just cause he died and all doesn't make him a great or a legend all of a sudden. when did i say he was great i said that his fighting style made for great fights. why dont you go jerk off to old videos of margarito working out

I'm not comparing them. I was referring to Cotto's performance to Margarito. You act like Cotto wasn't doing the chicken dance to a jab. Cotto would fight Gatti hard until the 6th or 7th round, he will gass and then wonder why he can't stop Gatti. If Cotto plays it like he did Mosley, then he would win. Since I believe Cotto wouldn't see the same threat in Gatti as he did Mosley(fast, good defense), he would have kept trying to put Gatti away at which Cotto would have started getting ****ed up by taking unneccesary damage like he did with Margarito(slow, horrible defense). The accumulated damage would have put Cotto away. And if you even think of saying that Cotto would keep up with Gatti in taking damage, this debate is over. no actually it wasnt a jab it was a punch to the side of his head that wobbled him and he recovered and won the fight. if cotto was that easy to beat he would have never beat mosley, quintana, judah ,clottey ect you think that just anyone could do what margs did (possibly with loaded gloves) to cotto then i think your selling cotto real short. and no i will not argue that cotto could take more punishment then gatti but then again who could