Underestimating Carl Froch..........

Froch is currently overrated, and I was surprised how old he is, 32, he left most of his career doing nothing, he's only going to get worse now. As Mikkel Kessler said in his blog, "I will knock out the english sheep-shagging northern monkey called Carl Froch"

Froch may not be the most skilled boxer but I would make him the favourite against Dirrell, people are making Dirrell out to be this and that and better than Taylor, etc but what evidence do you have to back up that claim, he hasn't faced anyone of note yet. So who knows what will happen when they meet in the ring, that fight is a total toss up as are a lot of the fights in the Tournament, that's what makes it such a great event. Whatever happens I can't see how Froch doesn't make it into the final four, I think he'll at least have one win, i'd favour him over Dirrell in the first round and Abraham in the third round.

To the guy who said Taylor didn't attack for 30 seconds after the knockdown in round 3...it was because Froch got up and after six seconds, starting punching Taylor and backing him up Froch knows how to lessen the impact of a punch. This is something Taylor, while he might be a strong fast good puncher, is unable to do. If you throw a good shot on Taylor and it lands, he goes back reeling. Froch either turns his neck with the punch or ducks, either way, the impact gets reduced. Average fans don't see or understand this. Combine that with his power and boxing brain, and he's a damn worthy adversary.

i would be surprised cause i punch like calzaghe If you punch like Calzaghe you are an instant ATG. :boxing:

I noticed that everyone on this forum more or less underestimates Froch for the super middleweight tournament. Well, I'm here to tell you that he's not a stepping stone. Froch is a serious opponent for any of the five guys he would go up against in the tournament. Reason behind all of this is the way he fights. He boxes smart, the way boxing is supposed to be done. You aren't supposed to unleash your best shots in round one or two in a twelve round match. You're supposed to just give your opponent a hint of what's coming, and then let them know what the "Real Deal Holyfield" is in the later rounds. If you unleash your best shots early on, say, in round one...it's almost like North Korea letting us know where their nuclear missiles are housed, you know? Think of it like that, as if it were nuclear warfare...Would you let your opponent know where your best weaponry was, early on? Hell no. This is why I think Froch is a good opponent for any of the super six. He fights intelligently, maybe not as exciting as alot of marquee names but in that twelfth round you will know what the truth is. When he went up against Taylor and took his right hook, you could really see how good his chin is. The guy is not a joke. This entire forum considers him an easy win for any of the super six... Froch is not a joke. He is a serious contender...I feel no need to press this issue, time shall tell! NEVA! look at my sig bet!!!! That says it all.

He was 2-3 rounds down. That's good enough for me. He has a good chin, power and stamina by the looks of things and I do think he's good for boxing, but I can see him being downgraded to gatekeeper very quickly after getting a few decision losses against him. But like i said before that's just my view on him. If he keeps up his win streak he'll certainly get my attention! So, a guy who beat Taylor this year (in fantastic fashion I might add) and is currently in the super six doesn't 'have your attention' ?

Froch didnt get Outboxed by JT for 10 rounds, there was only 2-3 rounds in it He was 2-3 rounds down. That's good enough for me. He has a good chin, power and stamina by the looks of things and I do think he's good for boxing, but I can see him being downgraded to gatekeeper very quickly after getting a few decision losses against him. But like i said before that's just my view on him. If he keeps up his win streak he'll certainly get my attention!

I noticed that everyone on this forum more or less underestimates Froch for the super middleweight tournament. Well, I'm here to tell you that he's not a stepping stone. Froch is a serious opponent for any of the five guys he would go up against in the tournament. Reason behind all of this is the way he fights. He boxes smart, the way boxing is supposed to be done. You aren't supposed to unleash your best shots in round one or two in a twelve round match. You're supposed to just give your opponent a hint of what's coming, and then let them know what the "Real Deal Holyfield" is in the later rounds. If you unleash your best shots early on, say, in round one...it's almost like North Korea letting us know where their nuclear missiles are housed, you know? Think of it like that, as if it were nuclear warfare...Would you let your opponent know where your best weaponry was, early on? Hell no. This is why I think Froch is a good opponent for any of the super six. He fights intelligently, maybe not as exciting as alot of marquee names but in that twelfth round you will know what the truth is. When he went up against Taylor and took his right hook, you could really see how good his chin is. The guy is not a joke. This entire forum considers him an easy win for any of the super six... Froch is not a joke. He is a serious contender...I feel no need to press this issue, time shall tell! Sorry, but i don't rate froch. Poor hand speed/accuracy, easy to hit. Last 12 rounds with him and you have an good chance of beating him by UD in my opinion. If he proves me wrong i'll take my hat off to him tho!

because his man wasn't hurt. you'd be suprised too if you got a knockdown with your best shot and the guys legs looked fresh. i would be surprised cause i punch like calzaghe

the round he knocked froch down in. he stood there and stared at him for the next 30 seconds without throwing a punch. because his man wasn't hurt. you'd be suprised too if you got a knockdown with your best shot and the guys legs looked fresh.

the round he knocked froch down in. he stood there and stared at him for the next 30 seconds without throwing a punch. because his man wasn't hurt.

If Taylor knew how to properly finish an opponent he may have gotten Froch out of there. in which round, 1?

No, saying this as a huge B-hop fan. Hopkins stole the Calzaghe fight from himself, by not being more aggressive and not throwing more. He was more concerned about conserving stamina so he clinched and IMO the wrestling in the clinches took more out of him that actually punching did. Hopkins did nothing of note past round 4, Calzaghe didn't beat him Hopkins beat himself. isn't the point of boxing just to beat the other guy in the ring? he was clearly better than calzaghe. hit and not be hit aka boxing.i'm sorry he didn't throw as many punches as juan diaz.

calzaghe stole a win from hopkins. hopkins stole calzaghe's soul and forced him into retirement. No, saying this as a huge B-hop fan. Hopkins stole the Calzaghe fight from himself, by not being more aggressive and not throwing more. He was more concerned about conserving stamina so he clinched and IMO the wrestling in the clinches took more out of him that actually punching did. Hopkins did nothing of note past round 4, Calzaghe didn't beat him Hopkins beat himself.

he has 2 things that alone can get your far in boxing that is: 1. granite chin 2. power he is a guy that you cant hurt, cant back up, with can depress some fighters, there are only two ways to beat him, you either got to carefully box for 12 rounds and not get cought with anything stupid, or if you can do that, you can try to go win in a war with him.

which round did Taylor let him off the hook? I didn't see any wobbling, even after the knockdown in round one...The man waited until 8 like you're supposed to. Something so many great fighters we've seen have NOT DONE. You must respect his ring iq. the round he knocked froch down in. he stood there and stared at him for the next 30 seconds without throwing a punch.

calzaghe stole a win from hopkins. hopkins stole calzaghe's soul and forced him into retirement. hahaha :bottle:

You know, I appreciate Calzaghe's style and everything, but I'm not a big fan of him. Mainly because his main claims to fame are his wins over Hopkins and Jones, but the truth is that Jones was well past his prime...Hopkins, was a truly great fighter at the time Calzaghe beat him and I'll give him that one...He got past Hopkins, but then again so did Taylor, by a bullshit decision. I'll put it like this. Hopkins took more from Calzaghe than Calzaghe took from Hopkins in their bout....... calzaghe stole a win from hopkins. hopkins stole calzaghe's soul and forced him into retirement.

He's a classic tough guy, with a good chin, stamina, power and heart but he lacks the boxing IQ needed to complete (for me anyway) with the very elite. He doesn't box smart, he conserves his stamina but his defence is so awful he's almost a static target which you can hit at will. If Taylor knew how to properly finish an opponent he may have gotten Froch out of there. All it'll take is a good boxer who won't make the mistake of trading with him in the late rounds after building up and early lead. He isn't going to win against Dirrell IMO, the best chance I see him is against Abraham whos workrate is slow and main key asset is power (Froch may have the chin to take his power) and win off activity.

Hes very easy to underestimate, he just doesnt look that impressive. I bet against him in the Taylor fight because its pretty obvious who is the more skilled fighter. I still dont believe its his skills that get underestimated, because they honestly arent that great. What gets underestimated is his heart and determination, thats also what turned me into a fan.